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[Vapaa]

That's not a solid argument though.  You were using the lack of evidence as meaning something and I simply pointed out that there are other confirmed companions who also didn't have companion stories, so your point was invalid.  I wasn't saying that the fact that he might have a companion story means that he might  be a companion.

 

You said "You don't know that Cullen doesn't have a "companion scenario" though." but that's not the point, since we're only discussing the information we have, not the ones that might or might not exist.

 

 

Here's what we have for Cullen:  we've seen him in the leaked survey concept art; we've seen him in the war room concept art; we've had confirmation that his VO was in the studio recording lines.

 

Here's what we have for Cole:  we've seen a description of him in the leaked survey (which a dev later said one of them wasn't still in the game and Cole is one of only two who haven't been confirmed, meaning he has a 50% of being the one who isn't in anymore) and we've had a quote from a dev saying that someone from Asunder was in the game.

 

We have a confirmation that Cullen will be in the game, but nothing points for him being a comapanion, for Cole we know he was considered as a companion, we don't know if he still is, but that's certainly a step further than Cullen.

[Brass_Buckles]

The art I linked to above turns out to be from August 2013.

 

Dual-Daggers there is more than likely a companion, because I am pretty sure Pointing Swordsman is the Inquisitor (correct me if I am wrong).

[Vapaa]

The art I linked to above turns out to be from August 2013.

 

Dual-Daggers there is more than likely a companion, because I am pretty sure Pointing Swordsman is the Inquisitor (correct me if I am wrong).

 

Pointing swordswan is Cassadra, but I doubt Dual-daggers is the Inquisitor, he lacks the distinctive red cloth.

 

EDIT: nevermind, I thought you were talking about the OXM scans

[daveliam]

You said "You don't know that Cullen doesn't have a "companion scenario" though." but that's not the point, since we're only discussing the information we have, not the ones that might or might not exist.

 

Ugh.  I said that you don't know that Cullen doesn't have one because clearly some of the confirmed companions, who must also have had one, weren't in the survey.  You were using the absence of a scenario as evidence that he's not in when confirmed companions were also not there.  That was my point.  Just because he wasn't there doesn't mean that he's not in.  Of course it couldn't be evidence that he's in.  My point is that it also couldn't be used as evidence that he's not.

 

 

We have a confirmation that Cullen will be in the game, but nothing points for him being a comapanion, for Cole we know he was considered as a companion, we don't know if he still is, but that's certainly a step further than Cullen.

 

So we have one character who we know for sure is in the game, but we don't know the capacity.  And we have another character who was being considered as a companion at one point, but there is a 50% chance that he's not even in the game anymore. 

[daveliam]

The art I linked to above turns out to be from August 2013.

 

Dual-Daggers there is more than likely a companion, because I am pretty sure Pointing Swordsman is the Inquisitor (correct me if I am wrong).

 

I've never seen this picture before.  Interesting.  I think that the pointing individual is also the Inquisitor because he is wearing one of the jackets that we've seen in the Inquisitor outfit concept art pieces.  The dual dagger person looks like a guy.  Interesting.

[Vapaa]

Ugh.  I said that you don't know that Cullen doesn't have one because clearly some of the confirmed companions, who must also have had one, weren't in the survey.  You were using the absence of a scenario as evidence that he's not in when confirmed companions were also not there. 

 

I am saying that GIVEN WHAT WE KNOW Cole has more pointing for him being a companion than Cullen.

[carine]

I am saying that GIVEN WHAT WE KNOW Cole has more pointing for him being a companion than Cullen.

I think that's a matter of opinion though. As in if you think that a companion blurb with no concept art has more weight than actual concept art.

[Lorien19]

You said "You don't know that Cullen doesn't have a "companion scenario" though." but that's not the point, since we're only discussing the information we have, not the ones that might or might not exist.

 

 

We have a confirmation that Cullen will be in the game, but nothing points for him being a comapanion, for Cole we know he was considered as a companion, we don't know if he still is, but that's certainly a step further than Cullen.

This is true we only know that he is in game but we don't know if he's a companion,besides in the war room concept art assuming that the "chil out guys"fellow on the left of dramatic hands mustachio, is indeed Cullen he seems to wear a similar outfit to that of Leliana who we already know is probably an advisor so yeah perhaps he was drawn this way because he is  possibly an advisor as well.

 

[daveliam]

I am saying that GIVEN WHAT WE KNOW Cole has more pointing for him being a companion than Cullen.

 

And with that, I'm done because you aren't actually listening to what I'm saying.  I AM only using evidence that we know.  Make sure that you inform the developers that they need to remove Vivienne and Solas from the game because they also didn't have "companion scenarios" and you seem to think that the lack of a companion scenario is evidence that a character isn't a companion.......  Have a great night, citizen.

[Vapaa]

I think that's a matter of opinion though. As in if you think that a companion blurb with no concept art has more weight than actual concept art.

 

It's not a matter of opinion; someone who has a COMPANION story was at the very least considered to be a, well, companion.

[Brass_Buckles]

I've never seen this picture before.  Interesting.  I think that the pointing individual is also the Inquisitor because he is wearing one of the jackets that we've seen in the Inquisitor outfit concept art pieces.  The dual dagger person looks like a guy.  Interesting.

 

I made a thread about that art because people are just passing by my post here; I want it to actually be discussed.

 

To me, there's some very vague resemblance to the dual-wielder in that one screenshot, but it's so vague it definitely can't be called the same character.  But Concept Art Cowled Dual-Wielder Guy looks like he's way too nicely dressed to be Cole, which would put Cole out of the running and bring in someone we literally know nothing about, other than he's a dual-wielding dagger-dude who wears colorful clothing.

[Vapaa]

Make sure that you inform the developers that they need to remove Vivienne and Solas from the game because they also didn't have "companion scenarios" and you seem to think that the lack of a companion scenario is evidence that a character isn't a companion.......  Have a great night, citizen.

 

Right, because obviously I said that having a comapanion story is the only way one can be a companion, yeah, I totally said that, didn't I ?

[Brass_Buckles]

Can everyone please stop arguing?  Please?

 

Look, I found our dual-wielder rogue who we don't know who it is!  Probably Companion #8!

 

Cullen could still be in as a companion!  Or Dramatic Hands!  And Cullen will almost certainly be in game regardless!

[CuriousArtemis]

I don't know about that concept art. The mysterious fellow is holding the raven-that-isn't. And the supposed inquisitor looks nothing like any male human inquisitor we've ever seen.

 

EDIT: And I agree that everyone should stop arguing. Those kinds of arguments are what make people tired of seeing names like "Cullen" and "Cole." 

 

We're all excited about the game and hope our favorites will make an appearance; shall we leave it at that

[dragondreamer]

I dunno, some of the concept arts have companion figures that just seem to be random dudes.  Especially in art that's clearly showing off scenery more than the characters.

[Brass_Buckles]

I don't know about that concept art. The mysterious fellow is holding the raven-that-isn't. And the supposed inquisitor looks nothing like any male human inquisitor we've ever seen.

 

You can find it yourself if you go to Matt Rhodes' art site and search Dragon Age Inquisition.  It's not fake.  The Inquisitor has taken several appearances in his art, so the Inquisitor's appearance doesn't bother me.  But there's quite a bit of detail loaded onto that rogue for it to be an unimportant character.  Could be it isn't a companion at all, but it would be odd to be traveling with someone who wasn't.

[CuriousArtemis]

You can find it yourself if you go to Matt Rhodes' art site and search Dragon Age Inquisition.  It's not fake.  The Inquisitor has taken several appearances in his art, so the Inquisitor's appearance doesn't bother me.  But there's quite a bit of detail loaded onto that rogue for it to be an unimportant character.  Could be it isn't a companion at all, but it would be odd to be traveling with someone who wasn't.

 

I know it isn't fake; I saw it when it came out  

[Steppenwolf]

I think that's a matter of opinion though. As in if you think that a companion blurb with no concept art has more weight than actual concept art.

 

So does the scribe girl and mustache guy but she's confirmed to not be a companion and there ain't room for Cole, Cullen and mustache guy. There's also a pretty major gender ratio discrepancy. Inquisition is going to be a sausage party if any of the 2 of them are the remaining companions. I kind of hope they ditched Cole as a companion and brought in Evangeline. She could be an arcane warrior...

[dragondreamer]

I like Evangeline, but she has a similar problem Cullen does.  With Cass already on the team, she'd be redundant.  I'm also not crazy about splitting her up from Rhys (and no, I don't think Mr Mustache is Rhys).

[Steppenwolf]

I like Evangeline, but she has a similar problem Cullen does.  With Cass already on the team, she'd be redundant.  I'm also not crazy about splitting her up from Rhys (and no, I don't think Mr Mustache is Rhys).

 

A mage-supporting Templar with a spirit residing in her is too similar to Cassandra?

[dragondreamer]

A mage-supporting Templar with a spirit residing in her is too similar to Cassandra?

 

Well, when you put it that way...  But it still feels kinda "eehhh".  Still not happy about the possibility of splitting her up from Rhys, or placing her at the mercy of the Inquisitor, considering the cost of her still being alive at all.

[CuriousArtemis]

A mage-supporting Templar with a spirit residing in her is too similar to Cassandra?

 

Okay, but this could be problematic because Wynne does not survive in some playthroughs. So I think this definitively kills Evangeline's chances.

[Steppenwolf]

Okay, but this could be problematic because Wynne does not survive in some playthroughs. So I think this definitively kills Evangeline's chances.

 

Leliana doesn't survive in some playthroughs. Your argument is invalid.

[Grieving Natashina]

It was deceptive wax fruits, some people forget the adjectives but they are important (Cassandra is an extremely crusty baguette for example). Also, both Varric and Cassandra items were not in that list and it had 10 entries. We have 3 characters (we don't know what the Warden is) but 6 food items: shortbread, strawberry parfait, banana foster, surprise meatballs, deceptive wax fruit and giant rump roast.

 

I personally wouldn't use it to guess the two missing followers, it's impossible to know which of the food items are "trolls".

I'm just doing this for fun.  We've got not much else to go on, so I don't see the harm in it.  

 

For reference:

 

I snagged this from the twitter thread:

 

 

Ladies and gents, I bring you, FOODQUISTION (round 2):

 

 

Edit: The person that made this knows that Cass is supposed to be a baguette, but couldn't find a decent picture of one.

[ElitePinecone]

Here's what we have for Cole:  we've seen a description of him in the leaked survey (which a dev later said one of them wasn't still in the game and Cole is one of only two who haven't been confirmed, meaning he has a 50% of being the one who isn't in anymore) and we've had a quote from a dev saying that someone from Asunder was in the game.

 

Firstly, a developer *never* said how many characters from that survey weren't in the game anymore, and I wouldn't be so quick to believe in that statement anyway. It's in their interests to discredit it early on precisely because anything less than that would've meant we knew about six or seven companions way back in 2012.

 

I think the existence of something saying Cole is a companion is - until proven wrong - the absolute strongest evidence, period. The bio says Cole is a rogue, it gives a companion plot arc, and it's featured alongside two other characters who are in the game, and one who seems very likely to be in. 

 

We have never seen Cullen in the party.

 

We have never seen Cullen confirmed as a companion, or with the Inquisitor in any other situation but that War Room art - where David specifically said that many of those characters weren't companions. 

 

Everyone else in that room, with the exception of Cullen, Leliana and Scribe Lady, has been seen in other circumstances as a companion.