I wouldn't be overly surprised if there were mutually exclusive companions, since the last two games had them. I'd be happy if there weren't, though. lol
Two companion slots left...
#1376
Posté 08 avril 2014 - 06:36
#1377
Posté 08 avril 2014 - 06:38
Ah. I wasn't aware Solas' confirmation was suspect. Okay, so three...
I'm not sure why people call Solas confirmation suspect, considering that we see him in the party in a few official screenshots casting spell beside Varric, Cassandra and the Inquisitor. What he is is another story though, well beside him being a male elven mage.
#1378
Posté 08 avril 2014 - 06:40
I really don't know where this final count of there being only 2 slots left comes from.
There's a difference between official confirmation and confirming things by the weight of accumulated evidence, and I agree that it can be quite subjective. But even in the absence of Bioware coming out and saying "character X is in the party", for many of them there is extremely strong evidence to suggest that they are companions.
So: Vivienne, Varric, Cassandra and Solas have been "officially confirmed". That's four.
Sera and the Iron Bull were seen by journalists at a press preview event in late February, and named in magazines as an elf archer companion and a qunari mercenary. Both have been seen in concept art and were in the leaked survey as companions. That's six.
The Warden ("Feathers") has been seen in concept art from as far back as two years ago, and in much more recent art with other confirmed companions. He was seen in gameplay with the party in footage from a GameInformer preview last year.
That's seven, leaving only two more open slots for other characters.
One of them is almost certainly Dramatic Hands Moustache Guy, who we've seen in concept art with the Inquisitor's party. If he's Dorian, then he was also in the survey as a companion. That's eight.
We're then only left with one spare slot, who could be filled by a number of characters - Cullen, Cole - or someone we don't know about yet.
The evidence for the first eight characters is, I think, overwhelmingly strong.
#1379
Posté 08 avril 2014 - 06:44
Hmm...i wonder how many of the 9 companions will be mandatory...
#1380
Posté 08 avril 2014 - 06:47
I enjoy reading things like this, particularly things that people toss around as if they're simply givens and old news at this point.
It's too bad this leads to disappointment in the long run, but I guess that's really on the individual speculator,
You say that like your strength doesn't grow tenfold every time another hopeful heart is broken by the dreaded Word of God.
#1381
Posté 08 avril 2014 - 06:49
So here's the quick update and, keep in mind, a lot of this is using "semi-confirmed" (which is just a fancy way of saying speculation with pretty solid supporting evidence). You are correct in saying that only Cassandra, Varric, and Vivienne have ever been officially confirmed by Bioware as being companions.
Cass, Varric, Viv (that's three)
Solas - the elf mage. He was "confirmed" as a companion by a German magazine after a visit to the studios. We've seen screenshots of him in battle and Gaider come on BSN to correct people about his name (but not about the speculation that he was a companion). He's pretty much all but officially confirmed at this point.
Iron Bull - the qunari warrior or rogue. He was "confirmed" by several magazines as a companion, but some of those magazines also posted incorrect information. We've never seen gameplay footage of him.
"Sera" - the elf rogue. She was "confirmed" by at least one magazine as a companion, but I'm not sure how reliable that is. She was also seen in gameplay footage in the party along side the Grey Warden.
The Grey Warden - a human warrior. He has never been confirmed but was seen in both gameplay footage in the party alongside Sera and in the companion armor customization concept art.
Cullen - a human warrior. His VO has confirmed that he's returning as Cullen and has put in about 20 hours worth of voice recording. He also "confirmed" "romance and companionship" as well as "raunchy" dialogue that he's recorded.
That's where people are getting 8 companions. We know that there are 9 companions, so that would leave 1 spot left. You are correct, however, that only three of the eight have been confirmed officially.
On Solas, don't forget that we see the back of his little bald self in the Inquisitor's party as they walk through a city in the trailer BioWare put out around Jan/Feb that showed off "The World of Dragon Age" or whatever the title was.
So, seems to make one think he's either a party companion or at least a temporary companion?
#1382
Posté 08 avril 2014 - 06:51
Hmm...i wonder how many of the 9 companions will be mandatory...
David can confirm this, but at one point I believe he said that many of the companions can be dismissed or leave the party throughout the course of the game.
I don't remember the source of his original quote (if it was on the BSN, tumblr, Twitter) so I'd have a hard time finding it again.
As someone mentioned above, also, we don't know if any of those 9 companions are mutually exclusive, so the total party pool might not actually hit 9 characters. Impossible to tell at this point.
#1383
Posté 08 avril 2014 - 07:00
On Solas, don't forget that we see the back of his little bald self in the Inquisitor's party as they walk through a city in the trailer BioWare put out around Jan/Feb that showed off "The World of Dragon Age" or whatever the title was.
So, seems to make one think he's either a party companion or at least a temporary companion?
Agreed. I think it's highly likely that he's a companion. I was differentiating that he wasn't officially confirmed yet, but others are saying that he has been, so I'm not sure anymore. I think that most of the speculated companions have really good shots at being companions, but that's neither here nor there since we should technically only be accepting Word of God as confirmation. (Like that's ever stopped up before, though.....
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#1384
Posté 08 avril 2014 - 07:04
On Solas, don't forget that we see the back of his little bald self in the Inquisitor's party as they walk through a city in the trailer BioWare put out around Jan/Feb that showed off "The World of Dragon Age" or whatever the title was.
So, seems to make one think he's either a party companion or at least a temporary companion?
We also had somebody confirm what "food" he is, which would suggest confirmation that he is a companion too. Solas hasn't been "officially" introduced but I don't think anyone doubts it at this point. There are several more tweets that make it sound like he's definitely a companion but digging them up would take too much time!
#1385
Posté 08 avril 2014 - 07:07
If he's in the press previews as a companion, why would people doubt that?
It's not like the devs aren't talking about him.
#1386
Posté 08 avril 2014 - 07:13
David can confirm this, but at one point I believe he said that many of the companions can be dismissed or leave the party throughout the course of the game.
I don't remember the source of his original quote (if it was on the BSN, tumblr, Twitter) so I'd have a hard time finding it again.
As someone mentioned above, also, we don't know if any of those 9 companions are mutually exclusive, so the total party pool might not actually hit 9 characters. Impossible to tell at this point.
Huh, i never actually considered mutually exclusive companions, or at least not as part of the 9 possible - i did think that there may be additional secret companions that replace someone...hello Loghain
EDIT: and something completely unrelated, assuming there are 2 slots left, or one or whatever, can we get a golem nug as a companion (or is that nug golem?)
#1387
Posté 08 avril 2014 - 07:17
It's still possible that Cullen is a romanceable NPC, so I'm not convinced that he will be a companion just yet. It seems more likely now, definately, but by no means guaranteed.
#1388
Posté 08 avril 2014 - 07:52
It's still possible that Cullen is a romanceable NPC, so I'm not convinced that he will be a companion just yet. It seems more likely now, definately, but by no means guaranteed.
I agree. More likely that he is a companion but it's still not 'confirmed.'
I'm still holding out for another female companion (dwarf? pleeeaaaase) haha
- Bowen Askani et Ianamus aiment ceci
#1389
Posté 08 avril 2014 - 08:12
I hope my Inquisitor can eliminate him because that's totally what she'll do if he half-inches magenumberthree's companion slot!!!
#1390
Posté 08 avril 2014 - 08:12
#1391
Posté 08 avril 2014 - 08:22
Just remember that the Andy Bennett art is fan art and not official. That's not necessarily the final group of companions. Neither of the other games' art has the full companion list present. DA: O has Caiman in the group and is missing Wynne and most of the DA: A people (except for Sigrun....?). DA 2 doesn't have Bethany. I think he just picked out the concept art that he liked and drew them. It's nice stuff, but not official at all.
#1392
Posté 08 avril 2014 - 08:26
Just remember that the Andy Bennett art is fan art and not official. That's not necessarily the final group of companions. Neither of the other games' art has the full companion list present. DA: O has Caiman in the group and is missing Wynne and most of the DA: A people (except for Sigrun....?). DA 2 doesn't have Bethany. I think he just picked out the concept art that he liked and drew them. It's nice stuff, but not official at all.
Um, Caiman?
#1393
Posté 08 avril 2014 - 08:26
That's fan art.
(and his picture of DHMG is way off on the staff - it's a staff and sword, not whatever that thing is)
#1394
Posté 08 avril 2014 - 08:28
Thanks
, I know but I like it ![]()
#1395
Posté 08 avril 2014 - 08:29
Ha! That should say Cailan. I'm typing this on my tablet and it autocorrects. Stupid auto-correct. It also calls Bioware "Broward", which I don't think is even a thing, right?
#1396
Posté 08 avril 2014 - 08:34
Ha! That should say Cailan. I'm typing this on my tablet and it autocorrects. Stupid auto-correct. It also calls Bioware "Broward", which I don't think is even a thing, right?
Apparently its a county in Florida and a college, and i think thats not Cailan but a female elf gray warden
#1397
Posté 08 avril 2014 - 08:39
Oh yeah, that makes sense. I missed the staff on the first glance.
#1398
Posté 08 avril 2014 - 08:42
It's still possible that Cullen is a romanceable NPC, so I'm not convinced that he will be a companion just yet. It seems more likely now, definately, but by no means guaranteed.
Agreed. I'd be happy either way, but I'm definitely looking forward to confirmation on all the companions/romanceable NPCs!
#1399
Posté 08 avril 2014 - 08:49
Not quite true. I've just been walking around Kirkwall with Bethany, Anders, and Merrill trailing after me with their blue mana bars making my yellow stamina bar stand out awkwardly.
Personally, the equal balance of classes (3/3/3) means little to me because I trust the devs to make it balanced regardless of the classes you choose. They went into decent depth on this subject at the Pax Prime panel in September, I think.
Oh, I tend to forget about Bethany, as she is not present in the majority of the game (and because I tend to have a rogue-heavy party). Maybe it is going to be similar this time around that some companions are only going to be present in the party temporarily or for parts of the game (Bethany, Carver, Loghain and Legion in Mass Effect 2 say hi!).
Maybe I am just exited that we might have a Tevinter mage at our hands, similar as to how some are exited to possibly have a proper templar (Alistair wasn't part of the order long enough to count).
Not that balance was ever a problem, as long as we have two out of everything, balance is good. At this point, it feels we get the icing of the cake, not the cake itself (as that one is covered with Varric/Sera, Cassandra/Iron Bull/Feathers/Cullen, and Vivienne/Solas).
#1400
Posté 08 avril 2014 - 09:04
Balancing the classes might matter more or less than some people suspect, depending on whether the combat system favours cross-class cooperation. In previous games there was a common argument that a party of mages shouldn't be possible because mages were overpowered, but we have no idea whether that's still true in Inquisition. Fielding a full-mage party might actually be disadvantageous, if the combat rewards using multiple classes on enemies, and because exploration skills or talents seem to differ by class. It doesn't seem to make sense to field an all-mage party if you can't access half the map due to the lack of a warrior or rogue.
That said, the best guess I can make at this point is that the party is indeed balanced between three warriors, three rogues, and three mages.
(Complicating matters is that since companions seem to have no fixed "roles", and one of the French magazines said healers can no longer heal the party like in previous games, companions aren't necessarily shoehorned into the functions that they might've had previously.)





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