But being a templar is kinda integral to Cullen's history and identity. Why not just make a new rogue companion if they need balance?
Templars don't necessarily have to be warriors though. There were those ridiculous backflipping templar rogues in DA2.
I just have a hard time believing that there there is a female companion out there that we haven't seen anything about yet. I mean, I guess it's possible since we hadn't seen anything about Vivienne until her official announcement, but at this point, it just seems increasingly unlikely. What are the odds that she hasn't been seen in any gameplay footage NOR any concept art NOR the leaked survey NOR been discussed by any of the magazines NOR been alluded to in any way by the devs. Just seems like we might have gotten a hint here or there by now, provided she was around, right?
If Dramatic Hands and Cullen are both companions the ratio of men to women is seriously off. So I think Cullen is out and that our 9th companion is a female.
Also Cole is too OP to be a companion, the guy is practically invisible to everything around him! So unless they nerf his abilities Cole is too much of a gamebreaker.
I think it's possible that Cole will be a companion I think he'll have more control over his abilities now and in the game when he turns invisible that's him going into stealth. At least that's what I'm guessing.
...Iron Bull has been in several screenshots and was even in the trailer. Who do you think that bull-horned Kossith with the greatsword is?
Yes, but not in actual gameplay situations. He hasn't been shown in the Inquisitor's party.
Also re: Cole being overpowered... It's likely that the Veil Tears will affect him, namely by making him visible and memorable until the problem is fixed (if it can even be fixed).
I know everyone's saying it's skewed too far to the male side of things, but for starters we don't even know for sure that Cullen is a companion (it seems likely but it is not confirmed--and yet I somehow suspect that my hoped-for Solas Follower Friday will be hijacked by Cullen), and, much as I would also prefer more females on the team because underrepresentation is NOT cool, the likely candidates for another female follower are conspicuously absent. Unless you want to suggest we're getting Leliana again. I guess I wouldn't mind that too badly.
To me, though, it looks like the warriors are the ones in question, and Dramatic Hands and Cole will round us out. Unless Iron Bull is a rogue, there is no other known rogue to fill the final rogue spot. Not that there couldn't be surprises, but we've pretty much spoiled everything for ourselves already anyway.
Yes, but not in actual gameplay situations. He hasn't been shown in the Inquisitor's party.
Also re: Cole being overpowered... It's likely that the Veil Tears will affect him, namely by making him visible and memorable until the problem is fixed (if it can even be fixed).
I know everyone's saying it's skewed too far to the male side of things, but for starters we don't even know for sure that Cullen is a companion (it seems likely but it is not confirmed--and yet I somehow suspect that my hoped-for Solas Follower Friday will be hijacked by Cullen), and, much as I would also prefer more females on the team because underrepresentation is NOT cool, the likely candidates for another female follower are conspicuously absent. Unless you want to suggest we're getting Leliana again. I guess I wouldn't mind that too badly.
To me, though, it looks like the warriors are the ones in question, and Dramatic Hands and Cole will round us out. Unless Iron Bull is a rogue, there is no other known rogue to fill the final rogue spot. Not that there couldn't be surprises, but we've pretty much spoiled everything for ourselves already anyway.
You make a really good point about the veil tears affecting Cole. I never thought of that and it makes perfect sense. I still think that Cullen is an NPC though, I think the three warriors are Cassandra, Iron Bull and the Grey Warden.
Templars don't necessarily have to be warriors though. There were those ridiculous backflipping templar rogues in DA2.
Cullen has always been a warrior though, so why break it? and i got one question; what about the GW we saw in-game and in the custom companion armor artwork? if lady insanity is telling what she sees as the truth about the 3/3/3 class split, we got our warriors (Cass,Cullen,Iron bull), so either GW is out or Cullen is not an companion...what do you people think? because this 3/3/3 thing made my head spinn...
Cullen has always been a warrior though, so why break it? and i got one question; what about the GW we saw in-game and in the custom companion armor artwork? if lady insanity is telling what she sees as the truth about the 3/3/3 class split, we got our warriors (Cass,Cullen,Iron bull), so either GW is out or Cullen is not an companion...what do you people think? because this 3/3/3 thing made my head spinn...
I definitely think Cullen is an NPC. I think that theory about Cullen, Leliana and Scribe Lady being important advisors to the Inquisition is accurate.
I think the writing is on the wall for poor Cullen but who knows, maybe the Grey Warden is just a temporary companion or there's another Bethany/Carver situation?
So, this source says we will get an even class distribution;
http://ladyinsanity....pax-weekend-was
Thoughts? Which warriors are out or not warriors? Cassandra/Cullen/Grey Warden/Iron Bull would be too many warriors.
Also, who do you think the extra rogue and mage are?
I'm not convinced Cullen's going to be a companion, even if he is confirmed as a love interest.
Hm, according to LadyInsanity's blog post, Iron Bull is a two-hander.
So that pretty much means either we aren't getting Beardy Warden (which would be sad since the Wardens are up to interesting stuff), orrrrr... Cullen is an NPC. That was a pretty big sword on his back, so he didn't look like a rogue to me. Also heavy armor.
Which means that we still get Dramatic Hands and (probably) Cole. I guess the gender ratio is actually not so bad with Cole, given that technically he's actually gender-neutral/asexual, even if he appears to be male. Much as I would like another woman in the party, I really can't hate on Dramatic Hands and definitely not on Cole.
I'm interested to know why people think Cole's chance is higher than Cullen, considering we know more about Cullen with him being a LI, appearing in concept art, storyboard, and early voice recording while we practically know nothing about Cole. We also don't know about the ratio being 3/3/3 in which DA has never had.
PAX East confirmed that the ratio will be 3/3/3, of course that could have been misheard or it could have been an out and out lie.
But working under the assumption that Cullen is an NPC despite being a LI, I'm more accepting of Cole as a companion. One of my primary reasons for wanting another female companion was that I was hoping for six LI's per gender and having all three female party members as LI's didn't seem likely. Now that can be offset by having only two of them as LI's, with a female NPC(Scribe girl, maybe?) as a LI as well.
I'm interested to know why people think Cole's chance is higher than Cullen, considering we know more about Cullen with him being a LI, appearing in concept art, storyboard, and early voice recording while we practically know nothing about Cole. We also don't know about the ratio being 3/3/3 in which DA has never had.
3/3/3 appears to have been confirmed. LadyInsanity may be wrong; she is only human. But she's over at PAX and says that the even split is confirmed. I wouldn't think a warrior-heavy party would make for an even split.
I would have thought Cullen was a shoe-in, but it appears that it's between him and the Grey Warden/Chevalier (I noticed his yellow feather, I did) character, whom we have seen in gameplay video.
Dramatic Hands is the only potential mage we know of, and he's been in several concept arts. His chances are good.
Cole has not been seen in any concept art, but he is the only rogue people can think of--that said, it may be someone thus far unannounced and not a book character. Or they could be keeping Cole under wraps intentionally because he's a pretty startling character if you haven't read Asunder--so he'd make for good shock value. So while Cole seems somewhat likely, he may also never have been in the running at all (survey leak aside).
Cole was in the leaked survey which seems to have been pretty accurate thus far.
I feel like if Cullen is an NPC then the sexual orientation would definitely part of the gameplay meaning that the 2/2/2 split would be very possible. I guess Cullen is likely out if that's the case. Warrior-wise, we have the grey warden and Cassandra. Part of me still hoping for Iron Bull to be a thief.
Cole was in the leaked survey which seems to have been pretty accurate thus far.
Except that his character does not fit the archetype of what Bioware is looking for do with the companions in DAI.
What is the archetype of what they're doing with companions?
Cole was in the leaked survey which seems to have been pretty accurate thus far.
Yeah, but I'm pretty sure a dev has stated that "some of" or "a few of" the characters from the survey aren't still in the game. I think that this is why there is some doubt about both Cole and Dorian since they are the only two characters left who haven't been confirmed. If we take the devs word at face value, then one or both of them aren't companions anymore.
Yeah, but I'm pretty sure a dev has stated that "some of" or "a few of" the characters from the survey aren't still in the game. I think that this is why there is some doubt about both Cole and Dorian since they are the only two characters left who haven't been confirmed. If we take the devs word at face value, then one or both of them aren't companions anymore.
That's true. But I also wonder if they didn't just say that to keep people guessing.
I posted this in the PAX thread, I'll repost here:
Just since it seems that a lot of people are having problems with this, I would just like to point out what I've gained from reading everything so far, PAX posts plus what was already known:
There will be a 3/3/3 split among classes (given what Ashe has posted from the PAX panel), and given who we know already, we know 2/2/2 of them: Cass, IB -War; Verr, Sera - Rog; Viv, Solas -Mage. We know nothing about the other 3 yet. And yes, IB is a warrior, given his build and weapon (#TwoHander), he's a warrior. That means we will be getting another of each class. Cullen is likely to be a major NPC given that we have already seen both screen shots and video of the Bearded Warden in the party. And given what they have stated about the quality of the characters for our companions in this game, that more than likely means Cole is out as a companion as well. He makes an outstanding NPC for a major secondary mission, but given his mental state and rather questionable physical make-up he would not make for a good companion. That means that we have one maybe companion and 2 unknowns so far. All we know for sure about those 2 is that one of them will be a returning character from Asunder based on what DG has said. Given the main cast for asunder, that doesn't leave many left to chose from.
And honestly, I am quite happy not knowing the last 3 for sure until release, as I would like some surprises 
My guess...
Cullen is a major NPC, like Scribe Girl and Leliana, but none of them are companions. Leliana is romanceable only if you have never romanced her in DAO. Scribe Girl and Cullen are romanceable. Cole is an NPC and not a companion. IB is a companion. So is the Grey Mustache guy and he is a rogue. I'm holding out hope for one more female companion.
Grey Moustache Guy? I think you're mixing two characters.
Dramatic Hands Moustache Guy and Beardy Chevalier-Warden are two different guys. Dramatic Hands appears to be Tevinter due to the design of his outfit. if he is not a mage, he is a pikeman, not a rogue, and that would put him in the NPC category. The problem with that is that he has been painted into the party in a few concept arts, so it's more likely that he is a mage (and may be the healer, in fact, as Solas and Vivienne both seem to be dps).
Cole will not be a minor NPC, if he is in the game at all. He will either be major plot character, or he will be a companion. I cannot foresee him being a major helper NPC, unless he's the master of the spy network. And that just wouldn't pan out with Leliana taking that role, unless it's Cole we're sending out and Leliana who's sending him. Given Gaider's feelings about Cole, I'd lean toward thinking he's either a companion or not in the game at all, which would leave the final rogue spot open for someone else.
Part of me wishes for more women, not for the guys to have "eye candy," because I think the women already in the game are lovely and awesome and distinct already and no one can tell me that they don't look quite memorable--but because, I repeat, underrepresentation is bad. Maybe they will make up for it with a surplus of female major NPCs at our keep/base.
Like I said before, I am pretty sure Bioware plans on balancing out the gender stuff with extremely active NPC's (Scribe Girl, Leliana, Morrigan). I think Cullen and Scribe Girl will be romance able NPC's, leaving Hands guy as a Mage, Grey Warden as a Warrior, and Cole or other ??? as a rogue.
That would leave Cassandra, Vivienne, and Scribe Girl for romance. (Sera might be too young)
And Cullen and two of the guys for males. (I am still iffy who will be selected from them).
So we're not gonna have a typical Bioware "pretty boy" male LI companion? I would rather take Cullen over Iron Bull, but I guess I have to see what they do with Cullen if he's not a companion.
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