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[DooomCookie]

Reasonable assumptions to make:

IB, if a companion, is a warrior (Two handed from everything we've seen so far.)

Warden is a warrior companion (Seen in gameplay, too much concept art to be temporary, sword&board in everything we've seen)

Cullen, if a companion, is a warrior (He's a templar for goodness sake.  And there's no reason to change anything.

Sera is an archer companion (Every reference to her has been as an archer.  I believe we've seen her in gameplay?)

 

That means, assuming the 3/3/3 split is correct:

Warriors: Cassandra, Grey Warden, Cullen OR IB

Rogues: Varric, Sera, DW rogue companion (since Varric and Sera are both archers)

Mages: Vivienne, Solas, third mage (possibly DHMG)

 

So far, the only indication we have for the third mage is DHMG.  This brings the gender split to 5/3, so the DW rogue is likely (hopefully) female then.  I'm thinking this is most likely since we've seen DHMG already and I can't imagine two companions not getting picked up at all.  Alternatively, it could be a female third mage and a male DW rogue (possibly Cole).  Basically, the 3/3/3 split excludes the possibility of DHMG AND Cole.

 

 

Now, if the 3/3/3 split is incorrect (reporting from PAX has been spotty), this allows the possibility of:

Warriors: Cassandra, Grey Warden, Cullen, IB

Rogues: Varric, Sera, DW rogue companion (we still need a DW rogue)

Mages: Vivienne, Solas

 

Same logic for gender split applies (I really can't see them going 6/3, counting Cole as male) so DW rogue will have to be female.

 

 

So, in conclusion, at least one of Cullen, IB and 'third mage' is NOT a companion.  The DW rogue will likely be female unless 'third mage' is female.  At the moment, I feel evidence points to Cullen being the non-companion romance, as most people are saying.  I reckon DHMG is the mage and we have a brand new female rogue.

[daveliam]

I posted this in the PAX thread, I'll repost here:

 

There will be a 3/3/3 split among classes (given what Ashe has posted from the PAX panel), and given who we know already, we know 2/2/2 of them: Cass, IB -War; Verr, Sera - Rog; Viv, Solas -Mage.  We know nothing  about the other 3 yet.  And yes, IB is a warrior, given his build and weapon (#TwoHander), he's a warrior.

 

If you are counting Sera as "known", shouldn't you also be counting The Warden as known too?  They are both in concept art and gameplay footage and neither have been confirmed.

 

That means that we have one maybe companion and 2 unknowns so far.  All we know for sure about those 2 is that one of them will be a returning character from Asunder based on what DG has said.  Given the main cast for asunder, that doesn't leave many left to chose from.

 

I don't think that this is what he said though.  I thought that they said that a character from Asunder was in the game, not that they were a companion.  Unless you are thinking of a different quote than I am.

[Isaidlunch]

I don't think this "best of the best" marketing speak rules Cole out. His powers arguably makes him the most powerful rogue in the party and more than makes up for any skill he lacks. He should be optional but my Inquisitor would find him way too valuable to pass up.

[Brass_Buckles]

Much as I'd like another woman on the team, I'd love to have Cole around.  The thing is, if Cole is around, we're not being given any hints.  And I think that could be deliberate.

 

It may also be that the final character is simply not finalized enough to show off.  Or that he or she is a major shocker (which Cole would fit under, for those who haven't read Asunder, but a female character is also not out of the question).

 

For those who say Cole doesn't fit the mold... Actually, he's pretty much the only shade we're likely to find help from, and now that he remembers what he is he may be invaluable for his information about the Fade.  He may not be the best "rogue," but he's in a pretty unique position to help the Inquisition.  Out of every possible character, he is the one with the highest likely value.  And that is also the very reason why he might have been cut--though not likely overpowered, he might have been too helpful in other ways.

 

If Dramatic Hands is a random Tevinter mage/outcast, and we're scrapping people for not fitting in the mold, I'd say he's more likely to have been tossed, despite all of the lovely art that includes him, because how can he be the best when he's displaced?

 

I don't know that every single character will fit into the "best of the best" category regardless.  It does look MOST LIKELY that Dorian and Cole are our final two, but in all honesty there is no evidence for either of them at the present.

[Nefario]

If you are counting Sera as "known", shouldn't you also be counting The Warden as known too?  They are both in concept art and gameplay footage and neither have been confirmed.

"Sera" has been mentioned in the recent magazine previews, whereas the Grey Warden character hasn't.
That said, as someone who hasn't actually read said magazines, I can't say for sure whether the magazines got the name "Sera" from BioWare, or if the journalist(s) in question had prior knowledge upon which they based an inference about the character's name. It's also unclear as to whether "Sera" is a permanent or temporary companion/important NPC.
In any case, there's just ever so slightly more to go on in support of Sera being a follower than there is for the Grey Warden, at this point.
We'll see, I guess?

[daveliam]

"Sera" has been mentioned in the recent magazine previews, whereas the Grey Warden character hasn't.
That said, as someone who hasn't actually read said magazines, I can't say for sure whether the magazines got the name "Sera" from BioWare, or if the journalist(s) in question had prior knowledge upon which they based an inference about the character's name. It's also unclear as to whether "Sera" is a permanent or temporary companion/important NPC.
In any case, there's just ever so slightly more to go on in support of Sera being a follower than there is for the Grey Warden, at this point.
We'll see, I guess?

 

I'm pretty sure that is just mentioned an elven archer, not Sera by name or anything, but I can see where you are coming from.

[Nocte ad Mortem]

Cole implies to Lambert at the end of the book that something about his realization caused him to become more powerful, or in control. He says, "I'm not helpless anymore." Also, that is the last time Lambert was heard of, thus far. That gives a strong implication that Cole may have killed Lambert. Consider that Lambert beat Rhys, Evangeline and Cole in a fight just a bit before that and he was leader of the Seekers. If Cole can take him down, he could pretty easily be called the "best of the best".

[Nefario]

I'm pretty sure that is just mentioned an elven archer, not Sera by name or anything, but I can see where you are coming from.

I did see a scanned page of one magazine (I think it might have been OXM, but I'm not sure) and the name Sera was used specifically. But again, I don't know if that name was provided by a developer, or if the writer of the article was familiar with the survey and/or the forums and inferred the name on their own.

[Steppenwolf]

What's this "best of the best" stuff? Was that said today at PAX?

[Hellion Rex]

I'm pretty sure that is just mentioned an elven archer, not Sera by name or anything, but I can see where you are coming from.

Nah, they actually used her name, I'm pretty sure.

[Nocte ad Mortem]

What's this "best of the best" stuff? Was that said today at PAX?

It's in this;

 

http://ladyinsanity....pax-weekend-was

[Aner91]

For me, i still think that the GW is a companion. why?, well

 

concept art:

(Feels like a companionship to me and it's 4 of them, full party, the Inq is there aswell. GW has another one but i can't find it. It's the one with the rain and he pulls on a necklace)

 

(Cassandra and Vivienne both had this armor mod concept arts aswell and they are both companions)

[Aner91]

In-game:

 

http://i.imgur.com/m...img] <br/><br/>

 

Survey art:

 

http://media.tumblr....1BoZ1qz4rgp.jpg

 

And all though the press didn't see the GW in the combat tutorials, keep in mind that "Sera" should not have been shown either, she was an accident (lol sounds so cruel ) And from what i have seen on the wiki and other places Cullen is not a confirmed companion (iron bull is though, but keep in mind that that info is from magazins and now the Ashe pax blog), just an LI.

 

PS: BSN wont let me post more images so i linked the images.

[daveliam]

For me, i still think that the GW is a companion. why?, well

(Cassandra and Vivienne both had this armor mod concept arts aswell and they are both companions)

 

Yeah, to me those armor concept art pieces are pretty compelling.  Combine that with his in-game footage and I can't imagine why anyone would question if he is in (outside of possibly be a temporary companion, although the armor mod thing kind of goes against that).

[DooomCookie]

So, in conclusion, at least one of Cullen, IB and 'third mage' is NOT a companion.  The DW rogue will likely be female unless 'third mage' is female.  At the moment, I feel evidence points to Cullen being the non-companion romance, as most people are saying.  I reckon DHMG is the mage and we have a brand new female rogue.

 

It's just occurred to me Cassandra and Warden are both sword and shield from what we've seen.  That means there still has to be a two handed companion.  The obvious character for this is Iron Bull, which excludes Cullen if we're assuming a 3/3/3 split.

 

That would mean Cullen as a companion and a 3/3/3 split are mutually exclusive.  Assuming my assumptions are correct, Cullen and DHMG cannot be in the same party.

[n7stormrunner]

It's just occurred to me Cassandra and Warden are both sword and shield from what we've seen.  That means there still has to be a two handed companion.  The obvious character for this is Iron Bull, which excludes Cullen if we're assuming a 3/3/3 split.

 

 

hasn't been confirmed we can switch them though. so all warriors could be sword and shield or two handed.

[Battlebloodmage]

hasn't been confirmed we can switch them though. so all warriors could be sword and shield or two handed.

Yes, we can switch weapons. Although if Iron Bull is a two hander, then he's likely a warrior and fill the last warrior spot. Is it confirmed that Iron Bull is two hander yet? I know that he's confirmed to be in the game, but is he a warrior? 

[CENIC]

...does anyone else think it's a bit strange that Bioware "outed" Sera because of her unintentional presence in gameplay footage, but the Grey Warden was ALSO present, and was not confirmed?

[Vapaa]

Again, companions can have various roles in their class, we even saw Cass with both sword/shield and two-handed.

[Aner91]

Yes, we can switch weapons. Although if Iron Bull is a two hander, then he's likely a warrior and fill the last warrior spot. Is it confirmed that Iron Bull is two hander yet? I know that he's confirmed to be in the game, but is he a warrior? 

 

From what i gather he was confirmed as a two handed warrior at pax (Ashes blog). I know that nerd appropriate are recording the panels so i at least will not be 100% sure until i hear it for myself.

[Former_Fiend]

So, I'm actually going back on what I said about accepting Cole as a party member. He still could be, but I'm leaning against it.

 

In the same breath where they confirmed the 3/3/3 split, they claimed our companions would be "the best of the best".

 

Now, I don't personally think Cullen measures up to that standard, but I'm adamant that Cole doesn't. We've seen Cole in a fight and he's utterly useless. When it comes to stealth, he's excellent due to the whole, invisibility thing. But stealth tends to be the least important aspect of DA rogues.

[Nocte ad Mortem]

I've said this in other threads, but I think the end of Asunder speaks well for Cole. Basically, he tells Lambert, "I'm not helpless anymore", and has Lambert with a knife at his throat. We haven't heard from Lambert since. He's MIA. That offers a strong argument that Cole killed Lambert. We know that Lambert was a VERY skilled fighter that mortally wounded Evangeline, bested almost every character in the book, and was the leader of the Seeker and Templar orders. Sounds like a pretty good resume, to me, if it pans out.

[GVulture]

I've said this in other threads, but I think the end of Asunder speaks well for Cole. Basically, he tells Lambert, "I'm not helpless anymore", and has Lambert with a knife at his throat. We haven't heard from Lambert since. He's MIA. That offers a strong argument that Cole killed Lambert. We know that Lambert was a VERY skilled fighter that mortally wounded Evangeline, bested almost every character in the book, and was the leader of the Seeker and Templar orders. Sounds like a pretty good resume, to me, if it pans out.

At the end of the book he also

Spoiler

drops the pretense that he is human

. There is part of me that wonders if Cole's presence in the "leaked" survey wasn't just a way to get people to buy the book. I know that is why I bought it. To me, and I know the mileage varies, there was nothing about Cole that screamed possible companion to me. Possible cameo/antagonist... but never companion.

[CuriousArtemis]

To me, and I know the mileage varies, there was nothing about Cole that screamed possible companion to me. Possible cameo/antagonist... but never companion.

 

The thing that gets me is him not actually being a fighter. I mean he is a spirit who took on the identity of a mage boy (if that assumption proves to be correct). How does that make him able to be, say, a duel-wielding rogue who can keep toe-to-toe with warriors like Cassandra and the like?

[GVulture]

The thing that gets me is him not actually being a fighter. I mean he is a spirit who took on the identity of a mage boy (if that assumption proves to be correct). How does that make him able to be, say, a duel-wielding rogue who can keep toe-to-toe with warriors like Cassandra and the like?

Exactly. The book leaves it in doubt that he was EVER "Cole". It sounded like, to me, at least that Cole was loooooong dead by the time "Cole" started talking to Rhys.