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[ElitePinecone]

All this has done is make me worry that the Grey Warden's isn't actually in the game. There hasn't been any clue about him at all outside of the art and no indication of whom might be writing him. =( I was happier when I thought were we gonna be missing a rogue or a mage had a 4/3/2 split.

 

I think that by the time they do things like concept art and actual in-game models for the characters, it's way too late to cut them. Why spend all the time and money on putting the Grey Warden into a combat scene as a member of the party if there was ever a possibility that he could be scrapped?

 

We have:

 

- His presence in the survey

- Concept art of him trying out armour with Cassandra. 

- Concept art of him in a tavern with the Inquisitor

- Concept art of him escaping or leaving a hanging, throwing away his pendant 

- Two screenshots of him in the game

 

We also know the Grey Wardens are up to something fishy, and that more revelations about them will be revealed in Dragon Age: Last Flight. I think he makes perfect sense. 

 

(Especially if he actually *left* the Wardens before Inquisition, in protest at what they're doing.)

[ElitePinecone]

I don't think DHMG is a mage. Dude doesn't carry a staff.

 

This looks like a staff to me. He's not a warrior, with those robes, and he's clearly not a rogue either.

 

[GVulture]

I think that by the time they do things like concept art and actual in-game models for the characters, it's way too late to cut them. Why spend all the time and money on putting the Grey Warden into a combat scene as a member of the party if there was ever a possibility that he could be scrapped?

 

We have:

 

- His presence in the survey

- Concept art of him trying out armour with Cassandra. 

- Concept art of him in a tavern with the Inquisitor

- Concept art of him escaping or leaving a hanging, throwing away his pendant 

- Two screenshots of him in the game

 

We also know the Grey Wardens are up to something fishy, and that more revelations about them will be revealed in Dragon Age: Last Flight. I think he makes perfect sense. 

 

(Especially if he actually *left* the Wardens before Inquisition, in protest at what they're doing.)

True. But if there is a 3/3/3 even split on the classes and there are conflicting PAX East stuff claiming Cullen is already companion (not LadyInsanity, someone else)...

 

Unless Iron Bull is a Surprise!Rogue, that means we might lose Feathers.

[Hellion Rex]

This looks like a staff to me. He's not a warrior, with those robes, and he's clearly not a rogue either.

 

*snip*

Agreed. I think that is a staff he could be using. And we have seen Tevinter mages (in WoT art) using swords and other channeling items.

 

http://ymirr.tumblr.com/

[GVulture]

This looks like a staff to me. He's not a warrior, with those robes, and he's clearly not a rogue either.

 

I agree. Looks like the badass staff and armor that mage!Hawke and co. favored in Dragon Age II.

[Hellion Rex]

I wonder if he could do a sword and staff combo a la Gandalf...

[Steppenwolf]

Considering that the Inquisitor arm of... whatever it is that they are... Are supposed to be ABOVE the Seekers and the Templars... it only makes sense that we would have one of each in the party...

The Inquisition isn't a Chantry endeavor.
 

But there is a reason why alpha footage always comes with a disclaimer about things not making it to the final game. He have had hints about writers for most of the other characters... Including Sera. That is what throws me off.

Alpha and pre-alpha don't mean "all of this crap is up in the air." The Warden has been there from the beginning(based on the armor demonstration) and was a full-fledged companion as recently as a few months ago. Just because they aren't teasing his story doesn't mean he's gone. In my mind it means he's important. The Wardens are up to some heinous crap, as evidenced by the Inquisition attacking them and sieging their base so he could be a link to Corypheus who could be the key to the veil tears.

[GVulture]

The Inquisition isn't a Chantry endeavor.
 

Alpha and pre-alpha don't mean "all of this crap is up in the air." The Warden has been there from the beginning(based on the armor demonstration) and was a full-fledged companion as recently as a few months ago. Just because they aren't teasing his story doesn't mean he's gone. In my mind it means he's important. The Wardens are up to some heinous crap, as evidenced by the Inquisition attacking them and sieging their base so he could be a link to Corypheus who could be the key to the veil tears.

I didn't say it was. It is still a branch that STEMS from the Seekers and Templars. They just got absorbed into the Seekers when they decided to fold into the Chantry. So says the World of Thedas. They were supposed to be a branch that served as a check and balance between the Templars and the Seekers before the the Templar/Seeker Order decided to defer to the Chantry and the Divine instead.

 

And alpha stuff of DA:O had Daveth and Jowan as a companion, didn't it?

[Sir Froggie]

I vote for Dagna as the last rouge companion. She has ties to both Orzammar and the Circle, and was mentioned in the gameplay demo

[Nocte ad Mortem]

Right now the Inquisition is working independently and the Seekers and Templars have broken away from the Chantry and are also working independently. The Inquisition, the Seekers/Templars and the Chantry are three different organizations, at this point in DA time. 

[Aner91]

For me, i still think that the GW is a companion. why?, well

 

concept art:

(Feels like a companionship to me and it's 4 of them, full party, the Inq is there aswell. GW has another one but i can't find it. It's the one with the rain and he pulls on a necklace)

 

(Cassandra and Vivienne both had this armor mod concept arts aswell and they are both companions)

 

In-game:

 

http://i.imgur.com/m...img] <br/><br/>

 

Survey art:

 

http://media.tumblr....1BoZ1qz4rgp.jpg

 

And all though the press didn't see the GW in the combat tutorials, keep in mind that "Sera" should not have been shown either, she was an accident (lol sounds so cruel ) And from what i have seen on the wiki and other places Cullen is not a confirmed companion (iron bull is though, but keep in mind that that info is from magazins and now the Ashe pax blog), just an LI.

 

PS: BSN wont let me post more images so i linked the images.

 

Here is my take about the GW being in the game, i mean i feel that this is some overwhelming "proof", the only thing that stands in his way is if Cullen is a companion, which haven't been confirmed or denied...all we know about Cullen is that he is an LI, that's it...

[ElitePinecone]

I vote for Dagna as the last rouge companion. She has ties to both Orzammar and the Circle, and was mentioned in the gameplay demo

 

Dagna seems to be in the game as an Inquisition engineer or magical specialist type person.

 

She was in the PAX demo, mentioned briefly as "Artificer Dagna".

[GVulture]

Right now the Inquisition is working independently and the Seekers and Templars have broken away from the Chantry and are also working independently. The Inquisition, the Seekers/Templars and the Chantry are three different organizations, at this point in DA time. 

All I pointed out is that if they are getting the "best of the best" of major players in Thedas... wouldn't that also include a Templar?

[Sister Goldring]

We'll I'm just totally confused at this point.

I agree that Beardy makes sense, he's a Warden and they are another interesting powerful faction in Thedas. It seems logical to have a Warden companion. He has been seen a lot in concept art and other official imagery. It's not like Bioware doesn't realise that the fans pick through that like they're panning for gold. I suppose it's possible that his or Cullen's class has changed. I think it's more likely that they've changed Cullen's though just because we have no official imagery of him doing anything (except possibly shouting) Also there has recently been a mention of mages being able to equip heavy armour, I suppose that holds true for rogues as we'll.

I can't reconcile the 3/3/3 split without assuming that we have
1). Mistakenly identified a companion or
2). Mistaken a correctly identified companion's class or
3). Accepting that Bioware has instituted non companion romances (to account for Cullen's LI status) and there is nothing from Bioware to indicate that these were on the table. There is also no reason to assume Bioware would necessarily tell us about new non companion relationships prior to the games release.

My problem lies in the fact that I would really, really like all of the proposed possible companions because let's face it they all look insanely awesome and I also really, really want companion Cullen. So if someone could just neatly reason out a way that I can have this without a companion facing the chopping block I'd be very much obliged!

[Nocte ad Mortem]

All I pointed out is that if they are getting the "best of the best" of major players in Thedas... wouldn't that also include a Templar?

Well, they say they recruit seekers from the templars, so if they were the "best of the best" it kind of seems like they would already be a seeker. 

 

But, like I said before (in this thread or another one, can't keep them straight), I think people read into the "best of the best" thing a little too much. I think the primary message they were trying to convey with that was just that you're going to be a lot more internationally important in this game that the last one. I think it was mostly there to address concerns people had that Hawk's story was too "small". 

[TKavatar]

Ok so it does look like a staff on closer inspection. I thought it was a trident at first.

But if he's the mage companion and Cole is the rogue companion then there is a serious disparity between the number of men and women in our group.

[GVulture]

We'll I'm just totally confused at this point.

I agree that Beardy makes sense, he's a Warden and they are another interesting powerful faction in Thedas. It makes sense to have a Warden companion. He has been seen a lot in concept art and other official imagery. It's not like Bioware doesn't realise that the fans pick through that like they're panning for gold. I suppose it's possible that his or Cullen's class has changed. I think it's more likely that they've changed Cullen's though just because we have no official imagery of him doing anything (except possibly shouting) Also there has recently been a mention of mages being able to equip heavy armour, I suppose that holds true for rogues as we'll.

I can't reconcile the 3/3/3 split without assuming that we have
1). Mistakenly identified a companion or
2). Mistaken a correctly identified companion's class or
3). Accepting that Bioware has instituted non companion romances (to account for Cullen's LI status) and there is nothing from Bioware to indicate that these were on the table. There is also no reason to assume Bioware would necessarily tell us about new non companion relationships prior to the games release.

My problem lies in the fact that I would really, really like all of the proposed possible companions because let's face it they all look insanely awesome and I also really, really want companion Cullen. So if someone could just neatly reason out a way that I can have this without a companion facing the chopping block I'd be very much obliged!

Only thing I can figure that would save a companion from the chopping block is that either Feathers or Iron Bull is a rogue. I would lean towards IB for this. Because there IS alpha footage of Feathers with a s/s and there has been nothing but art with ONE sword and a trailer with a weaponless IB.

[GVulture]

Well, they say they recruit seekers from the templars, so if they were the "best of the best" it kind of seems like they would already be a seeker. 

 

But, like I said before (in this thread or another one, can't keep them straight), I think people read into the "best of the best" thing a little too much. I think the primary message they were trying to convey with that was just that you're going to be a lot more internationally important in this game that the last one. I think it was mostly there to address concerns people had that Hawk's story was too "small". 

With the exception that unless they retcon Cassandra AGAIN, she has never been a Templar and has no Templar training. Seekers aren't ALWAYS Templars.

[mordy_was_here]

IB's got a sword slung over his shoulder in the cinematic, I dunno if it's considered one handed or two handed, however. Could still be a rogue, all things considered. Here's the shot:

 

[Nocte ad Mortem]

With the exception that unless they retcon Cassandra AGAIN, she has never been a Templar and has no Templar training. Seekers aren't ALWAYS Templars.

No, but they do take the best of the templars for the seekers. I was just saying, if they were the "best of the best", they would probably be a seeker and not a templar, theoretically. In game, though, I'm not sure it will actually matter. 

[GVulture]

IB's got a sword slung over his shoulder in the cinematic, I dunno if it's considered one handed or two handed, however. Could still be a rogue, all things considered. Here's the shot:

 

LOL. So big I didn't even realize it was a sword. HAHAHA.

[GVulture]

No, but they do take the best of the templars for the seekers. I was just saying, if they were the "best of the best", they would probably be a seeker and not a templar, theoretically. In game, though, I'm not sure it will actually matter. 

Depends on whether or not the Templar felt they would serve better in the Seekers. Cullen seemed to me to be more of the "protect and help mages" type of Templar than a "seek out rogue mages and random investigative stuff" Seeker. As in, he took his oath to protect mages when he could very seriously (at least once he stopped being scared of them that is.) If chosen to be a Seeker, I wouldn't see him giving that up... if that makes sense?

[Sister Goldring]

I think someone said today it was confirmed at Pax Iron Bull is a a two hander. I can't remember where though and I REALLY hope I'm wrong.

[Aner91]

IB's got a sword slung over his shoulder in the cinematic, I dunno if it's considered one handed or two handed, however. Could still be a rogue, all things considered. Here's the shot:

 

'snip'

 

At pax, where lady insanity/ashe is right now, she blogged after one of there panels that Iron bull is a two handed warrior. Think closely, have you ever seen an rogue in any game at all, that wields a massive two handed sword? I know that nerd appropriate will record the panels (like last year) so if you don't want to take Ashe's word for it, just wait and listen to it when the recording comes out.

[Hellion Rex]

Ok so it does look like a staff on closer inspection. I thought it was a trident at first.

But if he's the mage companion and Cole is the rogue companion then there is a serious disparity between the number of men and women in our group.

I'm hoping they can pull out a surprise female rogue for our final companion.