Two companion slots left...
#1776
Posté 12 avril 2014 - 06:51
#1777
Posté 12 avril 2014 - 06:54
Last two companions slots, well I'm hoping for an Avvar Outlaw/Rogue type character and perhaps an Orelesian noble of some form (the current rulers representative perhaps?)
#1778
Posté 12 avril 2014 - 06:55
My thought:
Cullen will be an LI NPC and will nevertheless have a huge role. Not only will he be one of the military leaders, he will be one of the people we can send out to deal with quests when we're not able to do so ourselves. So players won't get to take him along but they will be able to communicate with him frequently.
Cole very may well have been cut, although to me, as to some others, he's absolutely the most interesting possible character, due to how his story could develop. He may have a child-like mind--and will most likely NEVER be a romance option even if he appears in some game set after DA:I because frankly he appears to be asexual--but he's not a child, he is a spirit, and now that he knows what he is, he could be quite deadly. He could also be a very useful source of information. But, he is the most likely one to have been cut as we've seen no concept art including him nor any screenshots, etc. So either the developers have been very good at hiding him (although, well, it's Cole so he could just as easily hide himself), or he just doesn't exist in-game as a companion. Personally I do not want to see him in-game at all if he isn't a companion, because I think having him as a companion is the only way to do him justice as a character. As an antagonist or side plot or even major plot character, he won't get the same amount of development time. Also, if he appears in-game, he will likely behave quite differently from in Asunder.
A female rogue, yes, even Briala, would be welcome, but I'll point out that we already have Sera, a female elf rogue. Ideally that would mean our final rogue, if female and not Cole, would be human, qunari, or dwarven. Honestly I would rather see a qunari, but human or dwarven are more likely. Much as I would like to have Cole in the final spot, I also kind of want more ladies around due to their underrepresentation among the companions. And, well, if it's someone new I have even fewer complaints. I love new characters.
The way I see it, Dramatic Hands is our most likely mage slot filler. It is only the final rogue who's up in the air.
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#1779
Posté 12 avril 2014 - 07:02
I can't see Briala as being a companion. She's too ingrained in the plot as the leader of a major faction. It would be like expecting to get Gaspard or Fiona as a companion. If we see them, it seems pretty obvious, to me, that it will be in dealing with the faction they're heading up.
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#1780
Posté 12 avril 2014 - 07:05
Agreed. The only other major characters from books that MIGHT not be tied up with other things would be Adrian, Rhys, or Evangeline. None of them are rogues.
#1781
Posté 12 avril 2014 - 07:09
Some people also thought Michel might, but chevalier is basically warrior, so that's not happening.
#1782
Posté 12 avril 2014 - 07:33
Some people also thought Michel might, but chevalier is basically warrior, so that's not happening.
Michel can use light armor and bow.
#1783
Posté 12 avril 2014 - 07:36
Michel can use light armor and bow.
He may be able to in the context of the book, because it's not constrained by game mechanics, but chevaliers seem very clearly a warrior type class, to me.
#1784
Posté 12 avril 2014 - 07:43
We already have two archer's (Varric and Sera), the last Rogue will very likely be a dual wielding rogue so I don't expect any characters with bows now to be a companion.
#1785
Posté 12 avril 2014 - 07:49
We already have two archer's (Varric and Sera), the last Rogue will very likely be a dual wielding rogue so I don't expect any characters with bows now to be a companion.
True. Even though you can give rogues different weapon types now, having all your rogues be, character-wise, at home with ranged weaponry would just feel... off.
#1786
Posté 12 avril 2014 - 07:54
What I'm betting on right now is;
Warriors: Cassandra, Iron Bull, Grey Warden
Rogues: Varric, Sera, Cole
Mages: Vivienne, Solas, DHMG (as Dorian)
Advisory Team: Cullen (military), Leliana (espionage), Scribe Girl (trade)
Pretty sure some people have said it before, but I'm with this.
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#1787
Posté 12 avril 2014 - 07:57
What I'm betting on right now is;
Warriors: Cassandra, Iron Bull, Grey Warden
Rogues: Varric, Sera, Cole
Mages: Vivienne, Solas, DHMG (as Dorian)
Advisory Team: Cullen (military), Leliana (espionage), Scribe Girl (trade)
Pretty sure some people have said it before, but I'm with this.
This. Word for word.
#1788
Posté 12 avril 2014 - 08:04
^ That's what I'm expecting, too.
There's not much evidence for Cole, but there's even less evidence for anybody else.
#1789
Posté 12 avril 2014 - 09:01
What I'm betting on right now is;
Warriors: Cassandra, Iron Bull, Grey Warden
Rogues: Varric, Sera, Cole
Mages: Vivienne, Solas, DHMG (as Dorian)
Advisory Team: Cullen (military), Leliana (espionage), Scribe Girl (trade)
Pretty sure some people have said it before, but I'm with this.
I mostly agree with this but i dont think Cole will be the 3rd rogue, it will be a nug with a jetpack
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#1790
Posté 12 avril 2014 - 09:58
What I'm betting on right now is;
Warriors: Cassandra, Iron Bull, Grey Warden
Rogues: Varric, Sera, Cole
Mages: Vivienne, Solas, DHMG (as Dorian)
Advisory Team: Cullen (military), Leliana (espionage), Scribe Girl (trade)
Pretty sure some people have said it before, but I'm with this.
I still think that either the final mage or rogue will be female, but other than that this is basically what I'm expecting.
#1791
Posté 12 avril 2014 - 10:13
^ That's what I'm expecting, too.
There's not much evidence for Cole, but there's even less evidence for anybody else.
Yeah, I'm pretty much expecting this too, but the lack of Cole evidence is the only thing that makes me question his presence. I'm just not sure if it's him or another person we just haven't seen yet. Although there's more evidence for Cole, there's just not enough to convince about him.
#1792
Posté 12 avril 2014 - 10:21
What I'm betting on right now is;
Warriors: Cassandra, Iron Bull, Grey Warden
Rogues: Varric, Sera, Cole
Mages: Vivienne, Solas, DHMG (as Dorian)
Advisory Team: Cullen (military), Leliana (espionage), Scribe Girl (trade)
Pretty sure some people have said it before, but I'm with this.
Advisory team means companions or NPCs?
I really hope that is wrong because only 3 female companions is really shitty, I was hoping for 4 females at least.
#1793
Posté 12 avril 2014 - 10:50
Yeah, I think you can take the statement about some non-companion NPC's holding a position of importance in Inquisition as confirmation that a select few NPCs have an expanded role for Inquisition much like Kelly in ME2. There's no reason that couldn't also include a romance.
Additionally I can't quite see the reason for the Devs refusing to call a Cullen LI as confirmation of companion status if he was in fact a companion. I mean, what's the point in stringing that announcement out, fan torture? (Yes, I know this is a totally crap argument but that's what I'm reduced to in the face of too much conflicting information) I feel this, in combination with the 3-3-3 Pax confirmation and subsequent discussion of all warrior/mage parties inclines me to think evidence favours non-follower romance Cullen (or he's a rogue, which seems doubtful to say the least.)
Not the result I was after but you can't be lucky all the time. I also think it also suggests a 2-2-2 LI split because I can't see them making a non-companion romances with a field of only 4 Lis in total. There's no evidence supporting that opinion though, I just think it doesn't feel as good a fit as the 2-2-2 split.
#1794
Posté 12 avril 2014 - 11:06
If the advisers/Cullen as an NPC romance thing is false, then it seems like we don't have an even party?
Warriros: Cass, Cullen, Iron Bull, Grey Warden
Mages: Viv, Solas, Dorian
Rogues: Sera, Varric
But it also would be odd for them to have only made 1 new rogue companion?
I really want the adviser thing to be true, but why is there literally ONE character we know nothing about? That isn't 'some companions won't be told to you before the game is out' thats....one?
I just don't know anymore.
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#1795
Posté 12 avril 2014 - 11:17
If the advisor idea is false, then we have too many warriors. They confirmed the 3/3/3 split, so we can't have all 4 warriors in the party. One of them has to relocate to some other position.
#1796
Posté 12 avril 2014 - 11:18
Yeah, I think you can take the statement about some non-companion NPC's holding a position of importance in Inquisition as confirmation that a select few NPCs have an expanded role for Inquisition much like Kelly in ME2. There's no reason that couldn't also include a romance.
Additionally I can't quite see the reason for the Devs refusing to call a Cullen LI as confirmation of companion status if he was in fact a companion. I mean, what's the point in stringing that announcement out, fan torture? (Yes, I know this is a totally crap argument but that's what I'm reduced to in the face of too much conflicting information) I feel this, in combination with the 3-3-3 Pax confirmation and subsequent discussion of all warrior/mage parties inclines me to think evidence favours non-follower romance Cullen (or he's a rogue, which seems doubtful to say the least.)
Not the result I was after but you can't be lucky all the time. I also think it also suggests a 2-2-2 LI split because I can't see them making a non-companion romances with a field of only 4 Lis in total. There's no evidence supporting that opinion though, I just think it doesn't feel as good a fit as the 2-2-2 split.
Lets look at mass effect, not the same team and all that but it's the best we got to compare somewhat to...so mass effect 3 had 6 "full time" party members, and if you didn't play the other ME's and only played ME3 you could romance Kaidan/Ashley, Liara, those are the party members and then we had 2 npc's, Cortez and taylor. that's 5 LI's in total, but 4 on a single playthrough, and 50% of them where npc's. so it's not that of a longshot for Bioware to try this in DA aswell...not my cup of tea perhaps, but it could be worse.
Edit: i did not count Javik into this btw, DLC and all...
Modifié par Aner91, 12 avril 2014 - 11:38 .
#1797
Posté 12 avril 2014 - 11:24
Advisory team means companions or NPCs?
NPCs, but I personally do not see how Cullen or Leliana fit the roles people assign them. I'm not saying they can't be advisors though, just that I don't see them in those specific roles.
Cullen never came off as a military guy to me, being a templar is not like leading an army and making strategic decisions. The guy spent his entire Templar service inside of circle towers not battlefields. I see him more as a Templar liaison.
While Leliana might know about spying, she has always been in the tool position, not the handler. Varric is better suited to handle spies, he already has a spy network. Dev said they developed her as an agent of the Divine, I don't see that go away so soon after we see her being just that in Asunder and Masked Empire (even with a dead Divine). I see her more as a Chantry/Divine liaison.
I also expect liaison for the other factions: Ferelden, Celene, Gaspard, the city elves and the mages (the one that left the Chantry).
Also, in last year PAX demo, when they were showing the agents stuff there was drawing of what I believe are the advisors. They didn't match Scribe Girl, Cullen or Leliana. Video start here (25:05 if links doesn't work properly).
#1798
Posté 12 avril 2014 - 11:57
Also, in last year PAX demo, when they were showing the agents stuff there was drawing of what I believe are the advisors. They didn't match Scribe Girl, Cullen or Leliana. Video start here (25:05 if links doesn't work properly).
It says below their picture "collect 15 agents" and it talks about a keep in a very specific location. To me that just sounds like you have to collect enough support in certain areas in order to establish a keep. I would think it's more likely that those pictures are just some of the agents in the area, out of the 15 you need.
I think probably the advisors will be more important than the agents. The agents will probably be minor NPCs, if there are going to be so many. The advisors will probably be people that you continue to visit about the overarching plot. It makes more sense, to me, that the major NPCs will be the ones we've seen heavily featured and not surprise ones, like this.
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#1799
Posté 13 avril 2014 - 12:00
It says below their picture "collect 15 agents" and it talks about a keep in a very specific location. To me that just sounds like you have to collect enough support in certain areas in order to establish a keep. I would think it's more likely that those pictures are just some of the agents in the area, out of the 15 you need.
I think probably the advisors will be more important than the agents. The agents will probably be minor NPCs, if there are going to be so many. The advisors will probably be people that you continue to visit about the overarching plot. It makes more sense, to me, that the major NPCs will be the ones we've seen heavily featured and not surprise ones, like this.
Yeah, this is what I'm thinking as well. Wasn't there a screencap of some in-game dialogue that mentions Dagna as an agent?
#1800
Posté 13 avril 2014 - 12:07
Yeah, this is what I'm thinking as well. Wasn't there a screencap of some in-game dialogue that mentions Dagna as an agent?
you mean this?

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