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[Yggdrasil]

^  I know who you're referring to when you say "mustache guy," but I've forgotten all the info I used to know about him.  Was he basically seen in some artwork, or maybe the leaked questionnaire?  Can anyone refresh my memory?

[daveliam]

^  I know who you're referring to when you say "mustache guy," but I've forgotten all the info I used to know about him.  Was he basically seen in some artwork, or maybe the leaked questionnaire?  Can anyone refresh my memory?

 

He's been seen in the leaked survey and several pieces of concept art.  Some of those pieces have a guy who looks alot like him in the party with the Inquisitor at some ruins, which is why he's been speculated as a companion lately.

 

http://forum.bioware...nd-speculation/

[azarhal]

I agree, though Manveer Heir did specifically say at GDC that he did not speak for Bioware and did not necessarily represent its official position. That said, the company has a reputation for being probably the most inclusive and progressive major studio, period. To some extent I think it would be letting down that reputation if the gender ratio is what it seems to be.

My only point was that, Bioware's intentions aside, many of the major NPCs are women. Whether this is enough to satisfy people is subjective - I think the situation is unfair.

(If it is 6:3, the gender disparity would've come up constantly when they were working out early companion lists - was there a reason, then, why it wasn't changed?)

 

My point is more that BioWare doesn't give a crap if they have more female NPCs in the game when it come to designing the companions. That's not what they based their companion list selection on and if they went with 6:3 they will have to accept the criticism for the choices.

[Nocte ad Mortem]

I think DHMG will be the last mage. I think the rogue slot is the only one that's got a strong chance at surprising us. Even then, I'd put a decent wager on Cole. 

[Han Yolo]

So, assuming that Cole is not the third rogue, what kind of gal/guy do you think would add something to the party point-of-view-wise? Maybe a bard? Though Vivienne and Leliana might have that covered up. Or a dwarf from underground somewhere? Or someone from Ferelden?

Actually I can't think of much and sadly Cole's POV would fit in quite well. Aw balls.

[JasonPogo]

^^ Last companion will be Sigrun!  Female rouge.  It would be perfect!  To bad it won't happen...

[AresKeith]

So, assuming that Cole is not the third rogue, what kind of gal/guy do you think would add something to the party point-of-view-wise? Maybe a bard? Though Vivienne and Leliana might have that covered up. Or a dwarf from underground somewhere? Or someone from Ferelden?

Actually I can't think of much and sadly Cole's POV would fit in quite well. Aw balls.

 

I don't really see another dwarf filling that spot, a female Qunari could but I doubt that's gonna happen

 

only thing that can fill that spot is Cole or another human

[XXIceColdXX]

Id take the Architect.

[Nocte ad Mortem]

I don't know what other POVs could be left, but Cole is the most interesting concept to me so far, so I'm biased towards him getting the slot. The only other concept that is comparatively interesting to me is Solas if the "ancient elf" theory pans out, or he at least has knowledge about them comparable to Felassen. Since that's a big "if", I'm definitely rooting for Cole to make it in. 

[Mister Gusty]

I would prefer the final rogue spot not be filled by Cole, as I don't like the idea of a man child(I know he technically isn't human) being a part of the party, also I think the spirit thing has been done enough with Wynne, Justice(from awakening) and Anders. 

 

So I would hope for a dwarf or a qunari for the last spot and preferably a female character, but I do think Cole will most likely end up being the final rogue unfortunately. 

[daveliam]

I would prefer the final rogue spot not be filled by Cole, as I don't like the idea of a man child(I know he technically isn't human) being a part of the party, also I think the spirit thing has been done enough with Wynne, Justice(from awakening) and Anders. 

 

So I would hope for a dwarf or a qunari for the last spot and preferably a female character, but I do think Cole will most likely end up being the final rogue unfortunately. 

 

This definitely sums up exactly how I feel about the last spot.  Like exactly how I feel.

[JasonPogo]

If they do use Cole I hope they keep the people forgetting about him thing.  Would be interesting to see how long Bioware could keep that up before it got REALLY annoying and old.

[DarkKnightHolmes]

Since there is a huge fade tear, I'm pretty sure Cole should be visible and people should remember him.

 

Plus in the Inquisitor has the power to create fade tears (or something like that, I can't remember) so I don't think it should be a problem for the main character to remember Cole.

 

Once we close it back though then it might become a problem for other characters to remember Cole.

[Nocte ad Mortem]

I don't think the exposure we've had to spirits so far explained much at all. People possessed by spirits gives us extremely little insight to the spirits, themselves. You're left questioning who is influencing who. Did Justice corrupt Anders, or did Anders corrupt Justice? Justice on his own allowed us to see a spirit in more pure form, but his development arc was cut short by the fact that Awakening was comparatively small and his incorporation after that into Anders' plot. 

 

All in all, we've only gotten a Spirit companion once and that was only for Awakening. I think they're still one of the most mysterious groups in Thedas. It's strange to me to say we've seen enough after one Spirit companion. We've had three dwarf companions already, is that too many?

[Jaulen]

If they do use Cole I hope they keep the people forgetting about him thing.  Would be interesting to see how long Bioware could keep that up before it got REALLY annoying and old.

 

And this is one of the reasons I really hope he isn't in the game as the last Rogue.

 

Plus he's invisible unless you are just about to die, or unless you are a spirit mage. (Unless he's decided to go all Justicy on us and inhabit a body).

 

I hope the last rogue position takes out of left field.....DAGNA for a booky rogue! It's time we get a bookish (instead of puckish) rogue.

(and I'm LOLing...just kidding about Dagna being a rogue)\

 

And I thought the Inqui would have the power to CLOSE the treas, not open them.

[brightblueink]

I think it would have been nice if they'd made one of the characters gender swapped earlier in conception, but at this point I don't really see a new female popping up. I guess we could be surprised, but I'm doubtful. 

 

It's too bad they didn't make Iron Bull a female Qunari, I think, because people have really wanted a female Qunari. I think it may have been a bigger issue when they turned out not to be a LI, though, so maybe that's what they think they're avoiding. Grey Warden also would have been a good choice as female, though. Honestly, they could have also just left out Varric for a female. It doesn't seem like we need him.

 

Honestly, I'm a HUUUGE Varric fan--he was my favorite in DA2 by far--and I'm thrilled to see him come back, but if our choice was between "Varric comes back as a party member" and "we get more than 3 female characters" I would probably pick the latter. I think they've got something interesting going on with him in Inquisition but his story did feel mostly finalized in the game (with the only thing I can think of that's left hanging is maybe the red lyrium plot), and if the theme of Inquisition's party members is supposed to be "they're all leaders" I'm not really sure how he fits in that way. (Leader of...the best selling book charts? The coterie? He's not really a dwarven leader, although I guess that'd be true for any dwarf traveling with us on the surface.)
 

It´s rather strange that people care so much about the ratio of women and men in that game. I like Bioware´ s characters because of their personality not their XX/XY chromosomes.

We care because women are 51% of the population and something like 47% of gamers, but only account for 15% of characters in games--as of 2009 anyway, but I don't think it's much improved. The only games I can think of with a huge ratio of playable women are games specifically for fanservice (The DOA volleyball games), going for a "moe" factor, or that are half RPG, half dating sim (like Conception II, Sakura Wars, etc). Oh, and Skullgirls, but I haven't played that game so I don't know if it's "the whole cast is quirky female characters!" (like I hope it is) or "our whole cast is female so you should find at least ONE that fits your taste/fetish!" (which I think it isn't but I'm still worried it might be). It's easy to miss if you're a guy and you just assume games are meant to appeal to you anyway, but it's certainly something I've noticed (particularly since I play more western games than Japanese games nowadays) and it gets frustrating after a while.

 

Not that there's anything wrong with a game that has a majority of male characters. It's just frustrating when MOST games are like that.

[GithCheater]

Although Bioware tends to be a very socially progressive company, I am not sure if it is a good idea to railroad Bioware into a predefined quota ratio of male/female gender, hetero/"bi"/****** sexuality, or white/brown/red/tan/yellow/dwarf/elf/qunari race.

 

But it is not "fair" that 100% of the mages in DAO and 2/3 of the mages in DA2 were female ... 

[azarhal]

 

But it is not "fair" that 100% of the mages in DAO and 2/3 of the mages in DA2 were female ... 

 

Old fantasy cliché: female are mages, male are warriors. In DAO, all the warriors were males (minus Shale, but she was a golem).

 

The problem is that one of DA setting first social remark is that male and female are equal, but the games do not shows this. In the DA setting, you are a female in position of power with a bunch of men under you or you are an almost useless NPC. The equality ends with "women can be Iron Ladies".

[Former_Fiend]

Old fantasy cliché: female are mages, male are warriors. In DAO, all the warriors were males (minus Shale, but she was a golem).

 

The problem is that one of DA setting first social remark is that male and female are equal, but the games do not shows this. In the DA setting, you are a female in position of power with a bunch of men under you or you are an almost useless NPC. The equality ends with "women can be Iron Ladies".

 

Granted, the inversion of that has become a cliche all it's own. Not that I disagree with your point at all.

[Innsmouth Dweller]

The problem is that one of DA setting first social remark is that male and female are equal, but the games do not shows this. In the DA setting, you are a female in position of power with a bunch of men under you or you are an almost useless NPC. The equality ends with "women can be Iron Ladies".

yeah, like guard captain Aveline.

[ManOfSteel]

Old fantasy cliché: female are mages, male are warriors. In DAO, all the warriors were males (minus Shale, but she was a golem).

 

The problem is that one of DA setting first social remark is that male and female are equal, but the games do not shows this. In the DA setting, you are a female in position of power with a bunch of men under you or you are an almost useless NPC. The equality ends with "women can be Iron Ladies".

One of the reasons I'm happy that Aveline exists. It made for a fairly refreshing change of pace to have a female warrior. I've liked the strong, independent female types for as long as I can remember (Ellen Ripley, Sarah Connor, Wonder Woman etc.) so I'm just as stoked about Cassandra as I was about Aveline. I'm also immensely looking forward to playing a female Qunari warrior.

 

As for the last companion slots, a female Qunari rogue would be pretty great, as would Sigrun's return, if they can devise a good reason for her to do so. I just hope Cole isn't the third rogue, for purely selfish reasons. His character doesn't appeal to me in the slightest.

[Former_Fiend]

That was one of the reasons why I was really annoyed with Aveline; I love the concept of a female warrior, but she was such an unlikeable character(to me, I know I'm in the minority on that) that I was doubly annoyed because they had wasted the concept on her.

 

I have high hopes for Cassandra to redeem it, though.

[daveliam]

I think that they also tried to address this in the DLCs.  Between Awakening, Leliana's Song, and Witch Hunt, we had Ariane (a female elf warrior), Sketch (a male elf mage), Finn (a male human mage), and the introduction of Anders.  It wasn't perfect, but it was a start.  Then in DA 2, there were, effectively, 2 mages and 2 fighters (not counting the Hawke sibling), and it was an even split.

[Darth Krytie]

That was one of the reasons why I was really annoyed with Aveline; I love the concept of a female warrior, but she was such an unlikeable character(to me, I know I'm in the minority on that) that I was doubly annoyed because they had wasted the concept on her.

 

I have high hopes for Cassandra to redeem it, though.

 

I don't understand...disliking Aveline? But I am curious as to what you found unlikeable about her. And what you're wanting in Cassandra.

[agonis]

That was one of the reasons why I was really annoyed with Aveline; I love the concept of a female warrior, but she was such an unlikeable character(to me, I know I'm in the minority on that) that I was doubly annoyed because they had wasted the concept on her.

 

I have high hopes for Cassandra to redeem it, though.

 

"wasted the concept on her".... "redeem it"

 

*rolls eyes*

 

IMO there is nothing to redeem and the concept really wasn´t lost on her.