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[Oberonu]

Questions, thoughts, and possible spoilers?  Just thoughts.

 

Will we get to discover who Sandal and Flemeth really are and if they somehow have a tie to the breaking of the viel?  Maybe Sandal is the Maker and Flemeth is Andraste?  Without king and queen, the spirits/demons grow restless and powerful to tear the viel until the power on the throne is restored?

 

The old gods are trapped below earth, yet Sandal is found there with unusual abilities and powers..  Sandal has so far slain some very powerful enemies, makes enchantments, and even once, at least that we know of, froze/destroyed an enemy without an enchantment.  With not interacting with people would explain his simple nature, as the maker never truly worked with people before hand and Sandal, similar to Flemeth, seems to be honestly everywhere in each of the series.

 

Flemeth never does talk about who she is and tends to always like ironies and saying things are not always what they seem.  Andraste did come from the other realm and was said to be "powerful".  If one looks at a picture of Flemeth and a picture of Andraste, they do have an odd tie to each other.  The Disciples of Andraste thought that a high dragon was Andraste returned, yet Flemeth has been known to turn into a powerful dragon herself.  The Imperial Chantry believes Andraste was a very powerful mage who felt people were meant to rule magic, not magic and such to rule people.

[Barrendall]

It's an interesting theory and their stories are ones that might never be figured out.  I don't quite agree but I haven't any evidence to support my opinions so yours is as good as anyone else's in my opinion.

[EmissaryofLies]

I simply want questions to actually be answered this time around. We do not need constant mysteries to keep us interested. The more the mystery of Flemeth drags on, the less interesting she becomes. The cryptic mysterious shtick has its limits. 

[Oberonu]

They may be eventually answered.  It's just an odd coincidence when putting the books and games together, like for the most part they're pulling all the strings.  With the new book maybe we'll understand more about Liliana and her mysteries, the only other constant character.  I guess time will tell.  I can see how it might be played out, but that'd be up to the loremaster in the end to decide.

[DontWakeTheBear]

Well, we know who Flemeth is, even if we don't know what exactly she is. We heard several legends of the story of Flemeth and even if they're not 100% accurate, it tells us enough to put rough pieces together: She was a mage, in a relationship with both Bann Conobar and the poet Onsen (though the order varies on story), Bann Conobar's "treachery" caused Flemeth to kill him, and at one point she supposedly accepts some kind of demon into herself. What she's evolved into over the ages is yet to be seen, but I don't really think Andraste is the answer.

 

As for Sandal....I still say he'll turn out to be the big bad. 

[Gervaise]

Don't know if you have ever listened to Sandal in DA2 but in one of his little monologues he mentions a scary lady who watches him.    There has been speculation that he is referring to Flemeth and that may be he is encountering her in the Fade in his dreams.   Given his ability to flatten darkspawn ogres on more than one occasions with "enchantment" and "not enchantment" I'd certainly be interested if I was Flemeth.    Then again, may be she is totally aware of where he gets his power.   Pretty certain Sandal will be featuring again in DAI and possibly this time we will discover a bit more about him.   Ditto Flemeth.

[Lenimph]

This reminds me of my ”Leliana is the descendant/reincarnation of andraste” theory.

[Oberonu]

Anything is possible Lenimph, since as the Order said, the only person the Maker ever talked to was Andraste.  Supposedly Morrigan does say Flemeth is closer to the Blight than anyone could imagine and she's more dangerous than they suspected.  I personally Find Flemeth and Sandal quite dangerous, although I am sure they could be more so.

[VivalaGuardianes]

I understand Sandal is *cough* "special" in more ways than one.  But isn't anyone else concerned as to exactly how powerful he truly is and how he got that strong? If you recall he has the capacity to take down multiple enemies all by himself, including enemies that outweigh him like ogres.  And Flemeth I think might play a HUGE part in the veil tears, in the Trailer the dragon emerging from the veil has its horns in a similar way to Flemeth when she's in Dragon Form.

[Barrendall]

I simply want questions to actually be answered this time around. We do not need constant mysteries to keep us interested. The more the mystery of Flemeth drags on, the less interesting she becomes. The cryptic mysterious shtick has its limits. 

At some point maybe.  I for one am not bothered about the veil of mystery that surrounds them.  There have been other major characters in the fantasy genre that are extremely popular whose backstories are virtually nonexistent.  Gandalf the Grey/White is an example.  

[Bond]

Sandal > Flemeth.

[Aulis Vaara]

At some point maybe.  I for one am not bothered about the veil of mystery that surrounds them.  There have been other major characters in the fantasy genre that are extremely popular whose backstories are virtually nonexistent.  Gandalf the Grey/White is an example.  

 

 

Gandalf is the wisest of the Maiar, known by the name Olorin. Basically, he was an angel to Eru Iluvatar, and one of five Istari sent to Middle Earth to combat the influence of Sauron, though they were forbidden to use their magic to combat him directly. Instead, they were meant to counsel the race of man with wisdom.

There is a little more about Gandalf's time as Olorin in the Silmarillion. So no, his backstory is not "virtually nonexistent".

[St. Victorious]

Sandal was originally a nod to autism awareness I believe. No direct source on that, but I thought I read that in the way way back. His role evolved due to fan reactions. So what they have planned for him who knows. My current thought is that he's some sort of avatar to "The Stone". Pretty much the dwarvan deity.

Flemeth is supposidly connected to dragons and knows way too much about everything. Tons of theories exist and hopefully some of them will be put to bed. To me, I recently I was perusing the Avvar section of the wiki. So let me throw out another random theory.

What if Flemeth is actually the Lady of the Sky?

[GVulture]

I don't understand the theories about people being Andraste in disguise...

[Lenimph]

I don't understand the theories about people being Andraste in disguise...

I don't really either. I think it's pretty clear that Andraste is dead. If she's back I personally think it would be in a second life and she wouldn't be aware of it herself. And I definitely don't think she's Flemeth.

[duckley]

I simply want questions to actually be answered this time around. We do not need constant mysteries to keep us interested. The more the mystery of Flemeth drags on, the less interesting she becomes. The cryptic mysterious shtick has its limits. 

Point taken, except that as a player, I accept Flemeth as some mysterious somethingorother....and for some reason I am not overly curious about it...

[GVulture]

I don't really either. I think it's pretty clear that Andraste is dead. If she's back I personally think it would be in a second life and she wouldn't be aware of it herself. And I definitely don't think she's Flemeth.

It just seems like overly complicating the Messiah in a fake religion. Not really necessary.

 

Besides, Morrigan says that Flemeth is terrifyingly NOT human in the Witch Hunt so I think that kinda rules her out to be the Maker or Andraste reincarnate.

[Shadow Fox]

I don't really either. I think it's pretty clear that Andraste is dead. If she's back I personally think it would be in a second life and she wouldn't be aware of it herself. And I definitely don't think she's Flemeth.

No Leliana is Andraste reborn...At the least she's my male Wardens' goddess.

[Barrendall]

Gandalf is the wisest of the Maiar, known by the name Olorin. Basically, he was an angel to Eru Iluvatar, and one of five Istari sent to Middle Earth to combat the influence of Sauron, though they were forbidden to use their magic to combat him directly. Instead, they were meant to counsel the race of man with wisdom.

There is a little more about Gandalf's time as Olorin in the Silmarillion. So no, his backstory is not "virtually nonexistent".

I've never read the Silmarillion nor gave any thought to.  If I had, I wouldn't have used Gandalf as an example.

[mikeymoonshine]

My theory (that could easily be wrong) is that Flemeth is an old god who survived in a similar way to the OGB maybe she is in fact Dumat. 

 

She knows powerful old blood magic, she can posses people taking bodies without losing her powers, She can become a high dragon and she claims darkspawn are a threat to her. 

 

Sandal is possibly one too, idk. Maybe Flemeth was the old lady speaking to him, trying to make him remember what he actually is? 

 

I'm not sure if the Maker will ever actually be confirmed to exist or not exist and I have a hard time seeing Sandal as the Maker if that did happen, but it's possible.

[Mistress9Nine]

I think one is different from the other. I can understand all the various theories surrounding Flemeth, some even appeal to me. But Sandal? Come on! It'd be redicilus if he were anything other than what he appears to be. If he were some great entity hiding from the world I think he is doing a ****** poor job of it. He draws too much attention to himself (why everyone in game seems to treat his displays of power as if they saw a puppy learn to bring the morning paper in is a mytery to me).

 

I like to take them more on face value either way. Flemeth is a powerful maleficar, Sandal is a prodigy. Old Gods? Maker? Andraste? Yeah, I don't really think so. If Sandal is the Maker that'd but such a huge shark to jump the Dragon Age series would be swallowed whole, at least to me. The uncertainty of deities / powerful entities is one of the coolest aspects of the Dragon Age series (AGAIN TO ME so YMMV).

 

In case of Flemeth, I'd much rather they fuel the specualtion with all sorts of things. I feel it would take away more from the series to reveal then to keep up. I find it fun to not know these things.