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[Xilizhra]

I agree. The ideal solution, IMO, is to still have Circles but only as Colleges and to serve as halfway houses or hostiles for traveling mages. Only because I do think that the Templar's anti-magic and general immune to demonic possession is a good thing to have around the mages still learning how to control their powers. Though I do think that the Templars should be able to do it Lyrium-free. Or better yet, if there were a class of mages that devoted their abilities to the Templar's magics so they could police themselves.  There is something noble about the original oath of the Order of protecting and serving the ones that are meant to protect and serve man.

 

The only necessary evil that exists is the need for collecting mage children to the Circles. If only because it would be decades before the type of understanding would exist within the general populace that would ensure these children would be safe from abuses from mundanes.

Something can be worked from this... if the Chantry is written out of the picture and if there are villages or towns around the Circles themselves for family members to live in.

[Jedi Master of Orion]

Heh, I wasn't that far in Asunder yet. LOL.

 

Oh. SOrry. I never read it at all, but since we were talking about Evanglaine, If thought we were talking about her entire story.

[GVulture]

Oh. SOrry. I never read it at all, but since we were talking about Evanglaine, If thought we were talking about her entire story.

The dangers of discussing her before I was done. All done now. Yay. Now for Masked Empire.

 

 

Something can be worked from this... if the Chantry is written out of the picture and if there are villages or towns around the Circles themselves for family members to live in.

Yiiiiis.

[Ryzaki]

The location requirement should be pretty obvious, it keeps them in the same region as their circle and within their branch's templars reach. I put that rank requirement as Mandatory because ultimately even senior mages can still fall pray to Demons, Can still give into temptation but at least by this point they have demonstrated a decade or more of competent usage of magic since becoming a circle mage. And its also the easiest way to keep the now mobile mages in check, Checks in aside it keeps them in the sights.

 

I can stomach magic outside of the circle, but i will be damned if i allow the Imperium to be rebuilt when it was torn down once already.

 

To that end i'd keep several restrictions in place, still in place, namely inability to inherent titles, inability to to become nobility and inability to be mobile of their watchers. They can be "free" but they will never be equal, and that's the way it must remain.

 

 

Yep I get where you're coming from.

 

For 1, I think they should be able to move to a different country but only after alerting the Circle and reporting in to the new circle when they arrive. That way the Circle can send the phylactery over to the new nation's Circle.

 

Yes this is kind of what I'd assume they do if moving to a new country. Don't want Fereldan Templars having to hitchike to Orlais to deal with a Fereldan mage moving XD

 

I agree. The ideal solution, IMO, is to still have Circles but only as Colleges and to serve as halfway houses or hostels for traveling mages. Only because I do think that the Templar's anti-magic and general immune to demonic possession is a good thing to have around the mages still learning how to control their powers. Though I do think that the Templars should be able to do it Lyrium-free. Or better yet, if there were a class of mages that devoted their abilities to the Templar's magics so they could police themselves.  There is something noble about the original oath of the Order of protecting and serving the ones that are meant to protect and serve man.

 

The only necessary evil that exists is the need for collecting mage children to the Circles. If only because it would be decades before the type of understanding would exist within the general populace that would ensure these children would be safe from abuses from mundanes.

 

Well I still would require them to live in the circle if they went through a traumatic experience because that seems to be when mages are at their most vulnerable to demons. Lose a child? Circle for a few months/as long as it takes for them to believe you aren't going to do something stupid like Quentin did.

[Steelcan]

Something can be worked from this... if the Chantry is written out of the picture and if there are villages or towns around the Circles themselves for family members to live in.

 

 

So we can concentrate the bodies when things hit the fan again?

[GVulture]

So we can concentrate the bodies when things hit the fan again?

The reason for still having Templars around would be stopping a mage when they do go renegade, but not policing, side eyeing, or locking up anyone that looks at sharp things funny.

[Steelcan]

The reason for still having Templars around would be stopping a mage when they do go renegade, but not policing, side eyeing, or locking up anyone that looks at sharp things funny.

 

Prevention is the best cure

[Ryzaki]

Prevention is the best cure

 

Well this way the first people to die are the mage sympathizers

[Steelcan]

Well this way the first people to die are the mage sympathizers

 

Who their families?

 

We have a pretty mixed bag on how sympathetic mage's families are

[Ryzaki]

Who their families?

 

We have a pretty mixed bag on how sympathetic mage's families are

 

One would assume the only people living near the circle would be those okay with living near the mages. Unless it just becomes a really cheap dumping ground like an alienage...

 

True.

[Hellion Rex]

Something can be worked from this... if the Chantry is written out of the picture and if there are villages or towns around the Circles themselves for family members to live in.

Agreed, but without the Chantry, we need someone to fund every Circle.

[GVulture]

Local arls? In return in magical aid for whatever might be needed?

 

Or, I am sure that the mages can manage to secure their own funds and trading of magical artifacts for the muggles once they're allowed the autonomy to do so.

 

Duncan mentions in The Calling that one of the Orlesian Circles made a lot of money having apprentices light glow stones in the capital.

[Steelcan]

One would assume the only people living near the circle would be those okay with living near the mages. Unless it just becomes a really cheap dumping ground like an alienage...

 

True.

You are always going to have people unsatisfied with their lot in life, you think Carver would have wanted to live in a "Circle town"?  But then, who cares what he wants

[Hellion Rex]

You are always going to have people unsatisfied with their lot in life, you think Carver would have wanted to live in a "Circle town"?  But then, who cares what he wants

I cared about Carver.

[Steelcan]

I cared about Carver.

Then don't care about mages

[Hellion Rex]

Then don't care about mages

But...I like mages too!

[Steelcan]

But...I like mages too!

If you keep hopping from one side of the fense to the other you'll eventually get caught on the middle and on no one's side

 

Pretty sure there's a quote like that in RDR

[Ryzaki]

You are always going to have people unsatisfied with their lot in life, you think Carver would have wanted to live in a "Circle town"?  But then, who cares what he wants

 

Eh Carver isn't happy with much outside being a warden (hell you can't satisfy him regardless of what you pick in the end of act 1 if you leave him behind. That scene was funny).

 

I can't believe you're becoming a templar/are you sure this is what you want?

 

Oh you're so thinking just about YOU but what about what I want?

 

Well I'm happy for you Carver.

 

I told you he wouldn't care!!

 

Me: wut

 

Agreed, but without the Chantry, we need someone to fund every Circle.

 

If the gov't could agree to do it in exchange for mandatory military aid if requested from mages I'd see it happening. Mandatory healing and such as well.

[Steelcan]

I am torn from my increasing forgetfulness of the events of DA2, and my strong urge to never play it again

[GVulture]

Eh Carver isn't happy with much outside being a warden (hell you can't satisfy him regardless of what you pick in the end of act 1 if you leave him behind. That scene was funny).

 

I can't believe you're becoming a templar/are you sure this is what you want?

 

Oh you're so thinking just about YOU but what about what I want?

 

Well I'm happy for you Carver.

 

I told you he wouldn't care!!

 

Me: wut

 

 

If the gov't could agree to do it in exchange for mandatory military aid if requested from mages I'd see it happening. Mandatory healing and such as well.

It gets better during the Legacy DLC. That whole DLC made me happy in my decision to make Carver a Templar.

[Ryzaki]

It gets better during the Legacy DLC. That whole DLC made me happy in my decision to make Carver a Templar.

 

Oh I know. (I still prefer him as a warden...I prefer both him and Beth as such). But yeah I kind of want to squish his cheeks in the dlcs.

[Xilizhra]

You are always going to have people unsatisfied with their lot in life, you think Carver would have wanted to live in a "Circle town"?  But then, who cares what he wants

It's not mandatory.

[GVulture]

Oh I know. (I still prefer him as a warden...I prefer both him and Beth as such). But yeah I kind of want to squish his cheeks in the dlcs.

I should play the DLCs with my Warden Carver Hawke...

[Steelcan]

It's not mandatory.

look at Xil offering people choices.....