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I think Carver's issues are more personal/family issues. Not "mage" issues. He's just the middle child who isn't "special" and wants some attention. I bet he could live in a Circle town if he didn't feel the need to compete. It's nothing to do with magic.



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I should play the DLCs with my Warden Carver Hawke...

 

He's a bit of a arrogant twerp (he always is) but yeah cheek squishing.

 

Then you see Larius and just want to give Carver a huge hug :(



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He's a bit of a arrogant twerp (he always is) but yeah cheek squishing.

 

Then you see Larius and just want to give Carver a huge hug :(

 

Imma need some context on this.....



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Prevention is the best cure

 

No, it's the worst. 



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Imma need some context on this.....

 

It's when you see Larius and realize he's a warden and Carver mentions that the taints not really gone :(



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For 1, I think they should be able to move to a different country but only after alerting the Circle and reporting in to the new circle when they arrive. That way the Circle can send the phylactery over to the new nation's Circle.

 

That would make the phylactery rather vulnerable to being destroyed during transport. Also transporting things around just because a mage wants to take a long walk?

 

 


Something can be worked from this... if the Chantry is written out of the picture and if there are villages or towns around the Circles themselves for family members to live in.

 

No, it can't.

Especially not if you remove the Chantry. Recepie for disaster.



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If you keep hopping from one side of the fense to the other you'll eventually get caught on the middle and on no one's side

 

Pretty sure there's a quote like that in RDR

 

Liking Carver and liking mages are not mutually exclusive. I personally love Carver and I thought he played a very interesting dynamic with my sarcastic Hawke who never took things seriously. On the one hand, we had one Hawke who had took everything personally and felt like he was in his brother's shadow, and another Hawke  who just lived his life making jokes out of anything and everything, one is a mage and the other became a templar, and although I didn't agree with Carver's reasons to join the order (because he was having a hissy fit,) I did see him try other things first. One of his banters with Aveline says he tried to join the guard but Aveline made sure he wasn't accepted, and then in a later dialogue asks why he hasn't gotten a job. I thought that was priceless.

 

I love Carver as a character, since I thought he made a great foil against my mage Hawke, and when he decided to turn on Meredith to protect his brother, I thought it was the pinnacle of character development for Carver when it finally came down to the wire of supporting his brother or his profession.


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That would make the phylactery rather vulnerable to being destroyed during transport. Also transporting things around just because a mage wants to take a long walk?

Then don't transport it and have a mage wander another country without them having the means to track him.  :devil:

 

Although, I wonder if they can make multiple phylacteries and just keep one at each Circle to avoid the possibility of being damaged during transport. 



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Then don't transport it and have a mage wander another country without them having the means to track him.  :devil:

 

Although, I wonder if they can make multiple phylacteries and just keep one at each Circle to avoid the possibility of being damaged during transport. 

 

I don't see why not. All it takes is a bit of blood. Say the mage wants to move to another country, he can submit a request to the Knight-Commander and gets escorted there to the new circle by some templars, who'll either hand over the phylactery or they simply make a new one at the new circle.



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I don't see why not. All it takes is a bit of blood. Say the mage wants to move to another country, he can submit a request to the Knight-Commander and gets escorted there to the new circle by some templars, who'll either hand over the phylactery or they simply make a new one at the new circle.

Yeah, that would work. I'd doubt they'd let the mage in question travel by themselves, both for the the safety of any civilians and the safety of the mage themselves. 



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But...I like mages too!

:crying:

 

But why?

 

Have you ever met or seen a mage that was not dangerous in one capacity or another? Even the most well meaning and innocuous of mages can fall prey to temptation, Jowan for instance. 

 

Couple this information with the fact that magic is more than likely responsible for the blight and you have the deaths of millions, possibly more, on mage hands. Sure you can place the responsibility at the feet of the Magisters. But who's to say that such would not happen again, in time? Should we wait to see what other horrors they can bring to light?

 

Why would you risk the well being of Thedas to give freedom to people who arguably do not deserve it in the first place?



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If you keep hopping from one side of the fense to the other you'll eventually get caught on the middle and on no one's side

 

Pretty sure there's a quote like that in RDR

 

You keep jumping from one side of the fence to the other, you might just get impaled on it.” — Landon Ricketts
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Would have been better then another Dalish :(

 

Nope.

 

Being friends with a Mage doesn't make one a moderate.

 

You're addressing only part of what I said about the other poster's post, which misses the context of what I was addressing in how I interpreted what the person was trying to convey. I'm not even certain why you're addressing me instead of the respective poster.

 

Grace was an idiot I agree. Doesn't stop thrash from failing to see the blood age under his nose.

 

That's like blaming Cullen for doing nothing when Hawke warns him about Anders' plot against the Kirkwall Chantry. Thrask was a victim of the Plot.



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Nope.

 

Uh Yeah?

 

I enjoyed CE origin a lot more then DE origin back in DAO.

 

If that was anything to go by i would have taken a CE over a DE.



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Elves in general are deplorable and abhorrent creatures. They should be so lucky for their existence to be tolerated after all that they've done. 



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I like Thrask, I agree he was a victim of plot when it comes to Grace, but I don't know that I'd class him as a moderate.  Far too hypocritical, in my eyes.  He was more than willing to put Feynriel in the Gallows, but not his daughter?  And her death, because she was vulnerable outside the Circle, oddly just drives him further into the pro-Mage camp.



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I like Thrask, I agree he was a victim of plot when it comes to Grace, but I don't know that I'd class him as a moderate.  Far too hypocritical, in my eyes.  He was more than willing to put Feynriel in the Gallows, but not his daughter?  And her death, because she was vulnerable outside the Circle, oddly just drives him further into the pro-Mage camp.

 

Besides, it was pretty evident that Grace was nuts.



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I like Thrask, I agree he was a victim of plot when it comes to Grace, but I don't know that I'd class him as a moderate.  Far too hypocritical, in my eyes.  He was more than willing to put Feynriel in the Gallows, but not his daughter?  And her death, because she was vulnerable outside the Circle, oddly just drives him further into the pro-Mage camp.

 

Thrask wasn't really anything. He was far too busy scheming to oust Meredith and getting blackmailed about his daughter. 

 

If he survived DA II, he would have likely become a moderate. He did want the circle of old after all. "Mages and Templars working together". 


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Thrask wasn't really anything. He was far too busy scheming to oust Meredith and getting blackmailed about his daughter. 

 

If he survived DA II, he would have likely become a moderate. He did want the circle of old after all. "Mages and Templars working together". 

 

I was shocked to be honest that Fenris was mercenary enough to be comfortable blackmailing the Templar about his deceased daughter.

 

If i recall only he and Isabella out of the entire party support the action.


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I was shocked to be honest that Fenris was mercenary enough to be comfortable blackmailing the Templar about his deceased daughter.

 

If i recall only he and Isabella out of the entire party support the action.

 

Same. Made me laugh, I just knew he was going to be pissed.

 

The dude all but wears Templar armor. I suppose it's not too late to get the symbol tattooed to his back.



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Uh Yeah?

 

I enjoyed CE origin a lot more then DE origin back in DAO.

 

If that was anything to go by i would have taken a CE over a DE.

 

I certainly feel bad that CE isn't an option for the CE fans. However, I've had my fill of Andrastian protagonists. I'm rather glad Inquisition is expanding the options beyond the scope of providing a protagonist who follows the Andrastian faith, given the other rich cultures out there that follow other philosophies and religions.

 

I like Thrask, I agree he was a victim of plot when it comes to Grace, but I don't know that I'd class him as a moderate.  Far too hypocritical, in my eyes.  He was more than willing to put Feynriel in the Gallows, but not his daughter?  And her death, because she was vulnerable outside the Circle, oddly just drives him further into the pro-Mage camp.

 

Thrask is faced with an internal struggle because his daughter being a mage forces him to question what he's been raised to believe, and with deplorable templars like Karras and Alrik in the ranks, I wouldn't wish the Circle of Kirkwall on my worst enemy. Also, Arianni approached Thrask for help with her son; he also comments that Hawke found a better solution for Feynriel, if the protagonist encourages the young man to venture to the Sabrae clan.



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I was shocked to be honest that Fenris was mercenary enough to be comfortable blackmailing the Templar about his deceased daughter.

 

If i recall only he and Isabella out of the entire party support the action.

 

He probably saw it as a punishment for trying to keep her out of the circle.



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Wait... I haven't been on too much lately. When did Emissary become Pro-Templar?

 

At least, I thought they were Pro-Mage before.



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I certainly feel bad that CE isn't an option for the CE fans. However, I've had my fill of Andrastian protagonists.

 

That's you're own viewpoint.

 

Personally i got my fill of the Dalish in the prior two games.

 

Would have loved to see the perspective of an CE in DAI, but given there isn't a City Elf rebellion, it sort of becomes a moot point i suppose.