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[EmissaryofLies]

Wait... I haven't been on too much lately. When did Emissary become Pro-Templar?

 

At least, I thought they were Pro-Mage before.

 

I've never been Pro-Mage.

 

Simply playing Devil's Advocate. 

[Senya]

I've never been Pro-Mage.

 

Simply playing Devil's Advocate. 

Ah. I see. My mistake. Or you did it well.

[TK514]

Thrask is faced with an internal struggle because his daughter being a mage forces him to question what he's been raised to believe, and with deplorable templars like Karras and Alrik in the ranks, I wouldn't wish the Circle of Kirkwall on my worst enemy. Also, Arianni approached Thrask for help with her son; he also comments that Hawke found a better solution for Feynriel, if the protagonist encourages the young man to venture to the Sabrae clan.

 

I would be surprised if she had been kept in the Kirkwall Circle, to be honest.  I would expect SOP to be having children of any member of a Circle, Mage or Templar, transferred to another Circle to avoid conflict of interest and difficulty of performing one's duty.  His ability to do what was necessary with her life on the line would have been called into question.

 

All speculation, of course, but it makes sense to me.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Uh Yeah?

 

I enjoyed CE origin a lot more then DE origin back in DAO.

 

If that was anything to go by i would have taken a CE over a DE.

Agreed. City Elf was my favorite origin. But now I have no choice but to headcanon the heck out of a Dalish elf to make me want to play one.

[LobselVith8]

Would have loved to see the perspective of an CE in DAI, but given there isn't a City Elf rebellion, it sort of becomes a moot point i suppose.

 

Briala may provide that in Inquisition.

 

I would be surprised if she had been kept in the Kirkwall Circle, to be honest.  I would expect SOP to be having children of any member of a Circle, Mage or Templar, transferred to another Circle to avoid conflict of interest and difficulty of performing one's duty.  His ability to do what was necessary with her life on the line would have been called into question.

 

All speculation, of course, but it makes sense to me.

 

That's certainly possible, but the nearby Circle of Starkhaven wasn't much better, so I'm not surprised that Thrask would still be conflicted.

[Hellion Rex]

Ah. I see. My mistake. Or you did it well.

He's also our resident sarcastic guy. When you see him speak, the opposite of what he says is the truth.

[Hellion Rex]

Agreed. City Elf was my favorite origin. 

Bah. Magi Origin was much better.

*sniff*

[Hellion Rex]

Briala may provide that in Inquisition.

The CE didn't look kindly on her in Masked Empire.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Bah. Magi Origin was much better.

*sniff*

The Magi origin is not high on my list simply because the mage was so boring to play as in Origins, at least to me. Storywise, the Magi origin was great.

[LobselVith8]

Bah. Magi Origin was much better.

*sniff*

 

I really enjoyed the Surana Origin; it was my favorite. Choosing where the character was from, his view on the Circle, how he felt about growing up in the Alienage, the reactions about the elves living in the Alienage and the mages being forced to live in the Circle Tower - it was all great. The Dwarven Noble Origin was a lot of fun, too.

 

The CE didn't look kindly on her in Masked Empire.

 

Briala is technically a city elf, and if she's one of the primary characters, we may get some insight into her point of view.

[wcholcombe]

The Magi origin is not high on my list simply because the mage was so boring to play as in Origins, at least to me. Storywise, the Magi origin was great.

Bah what ticked me off on the mage origin was the way that Irving came off as a whiney little ******. "What can I do, I am just the 1st enchanter"

[wcholcombe]

Really?  I can't type p-r-i-c-k on the forums?  Since when is that vulgar?

[EmissaryofLies]

Really?  I can't type p-r-i-c-k on the forums?  Since when is that vulgar?

 

Hey! You can talk about genocides, Orlesian sex slaves and psychopathic Dr. Frankensteins. But I best not see you usin' that kinda language 'round here. You hear!?

[Master Warder Z_]

The Magi origin is not high on my list simply because the mage was so boring to play as in Origins, at least to me. Storywise, the Magi origin was great.

 

My favorite will likely always be the Male Human noble warrior

[LobselVith8]

Bah what ticked me off on the mage origin was the way that Irving came off as a whiney little ******. "What can I do, I am just the 1st enchanter"

 

That's because Irving is a mage, not a templar. That's why Greagoir only permitted seven mages to deal with the incoming Blight, despite Duncan representing King Cailan in requesting more aid, and Irving being in favor of sending more mages to Ostagar. I don't see why Irving is "whiny" simply because he's not content with how things are in the Circle Tower.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

My favorite will likely always be the Male Human noble warrior

Nah, Human Noble Rogue was better since you could actually access most of the rooms that way. As a warrior, you were pretty much locked out of half your house.

[Master Warder Z_]

That's because Irving is a mage, not a templar. That's why Greagoir only permitted seven mages to deal with the incoming Blight, despite Duncan representing King Cailan in requesting more aid, and Irving being in favor of sending more mages to Ostagar. I don't see why Irving is "whiny" simply because he's not content with how things are in the Circle Tower.

 

Uh The first Enchanter, Duncan and Knight Commander all were going to speak about that request for aid in the future, the PC entry into the scene caused the meeting to end, The Knight Commander was rightly worried about the policing of the mages outside of the circle, but given they had already granted support once and could do so in the future under the Warden, it wasn't done because the Knight Commander was dictating the circle.

 

Kirkwall was an exception to the rule, not the norm, The Devs have stated that numerous times.

[Master Warder Z_]

Nah, Human Noble Rogue was better since you could actually access most of the rooms that way. As a warrior, you were pretty much locked out of half your house.

 

I do remember my first playthrough going "Locked chests, Locked doors in my keep?!" The ****! It's not like i am  a damn burglar or something! I live here!

[GVulture]

I really enjoyed the Surana Origin; it was my favorite. Choosing where the character was from, his view on the Circle, how he felt about growing up in the Alienage, the reactions about the elves living in the Alienage and the mages being forced to live in the Circle Tower - it was all great. The Dwarven Noble Origin was a lot of fun, too.

 

 

Briala is technically a city elf, and if she's one of the primary characters, we may get some insight into her point of view.

I had headcanoned by Surana as a Dalish orphan that got picked up by a Templar patrol. I just ignored any dialogue options that involved alienages.

[LobselVith8]

Uh The first Enchanter, Duncan and Knight Commander all were going to speak about that request for aid in the future, the PC entry into the scene caused the meeting to end, The Knight Commander was rightly worried about the policing of the mages outside of the circle, but given they had already granted support once and could do so in the future under the Warden, it wasn't done because the Knight Commander was dictating the circle.

 

Kirkwall was an exception to the rule, not the norm, The Devs have stated that numerous times.

 

You are aware that the Circles are controlled by the Chantry and their templars, correct? That Duncan has to point out that Greagoir only permitted seven mages to serve at Ostagar isn't an issue that's up for dispute.

[Master Warder Z_]

That Duncan has to point out that Greagoir only permitted seven mages to serve at Ostagar isn't an issue that's up for dispute.

 

The speculation that, that would be all the circle sent however because of the Knight Commander is however.

[LobselVith8]

I had headcanoned by Surana as a Dalish orphan that got picked up by a Templar patrol. I just ignored any dialogue options that involved alienages.

 

What I like about the Surana Warden was how it was structed like a New Vegas style RPG, where the player is given the choice to decide certain aspects about the backstory and the outlook of the character.

 

Funny that you say that, but I imagined that my canon elven Warden's grandfather was an Arianni style Dalish who came to live in the Alienage, although I played him as an atheist. I'm looking forward to a proper Dalish protagonist who follows the Creators and has an elven point of view.

[Hellion Rex]

What I like about the Surana Warden was how it was structed like a New Vegas style RPG, where the player is given the choice to decide certain aspects about the backstory and the outlook of the character.

 

Funny that you say that, but I imagined that my canon elven Warden's grandfather was an Arianni style Dalish who came to live in the Alienage, although I played him as an atheist. I'm looking forward to a proper Dalish protagonist who follows the Creators and has an elven point of view.

I'm curious as to the circumstances in which each race/class begins the game. The devs said recently that everyone has the same beginning, so I am wanting to know what situation could possibly be common to all origins.

[LobselVith8]

I'm curious as to the circumstances in which each race/class begins the game. The devs said recently that everyone has the same beginning, so I am wanting to know what situation could possibly be common to all origins.

 

Laidlaw's podcast interview (where he revealed that the Vashoth was a racial option) gave me the impression that the player will end up deciding certain things about the protagonist, and that the rest of the game will react to certain issues that were chosen by the player. I'd have to imagine that so many factions being a war is one of the reasons why a peace conference might be assembled (based on the leaked survey), although I'm not sure why a Dalish, Dwarven, or Vashoth protagonist would be in attendance.

 

Hmmm... I suppose the end of "The Masked Empire" could explain the Dalish, while the Qunari situation may have the Andrastians call forth the Vashoth to establish an alliance? Perhaps the schism with the templars and the mages has a dwarven delegate attending the meeting because of the lyrium situation? Just some ideas on why they might attend. I suspect the player might be able to decide how the player views the situation as well, since Darrah mentioned that the player would shape the view of the Inquisitor, including how they viewed magic.

[wcholcombe]

That's because Irving is a mage, not a templar. That's why Greagoir only permitted seven mages to deal with the incoming Blight, despite Duncan representing King Cailan in requesting more aid, and Irving being in favor of sending more mages to Ostagar. I don't see why Irving is "whiny" simply because he's not content with how things are in the Circle Tower.

No, my comment was more in reference to his basic attitude of just going along with the the Tranquil request like a rubber stamp. If he didn't believe someone should be tranquiled he should have stood up and said so.  It isn't like gregoire is Meredith or some blood thirsty templar.  Also, Irving's interactions make no sense with regard to the way Gregoire treats him.  I don't have an issue with Irving wanting to change things, it is more the whiney there is nothing I can do attitude he sometimes exhibits.