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[spirosz]

Nostalgia glasses. ME1 is written with about the same amount of coherence and logic as ME3 (pre-ending).

 

Yep. 

[Immer Rastrelly]

Oh, so you're issue is why is he physically carrying them at the moment the Reapers attack? If you need an in-game reason, Anderson believed Shepard all along about the Reapers, and a meeting had just been called and Shepard summoned to deal with what was apparently their arrival. It's logical for Anderson to assume and/or try to force the issue that Shepard will/should be reinstated.

Aye. And this is the only logical explanation. Yet I think this is strange. There is a small bunch of people who actually trust Shepard, and incompetence shown by commission only adds up to improbability of Anderson actually pushing Shepard back into military. But, still, maybe, yes, maybe.

 

 

 

More importantly op, what do you think tali smells of? 

Feelin' kinda dumb. I just cannot translate your question. You're asking what Tali smells like, what scent did Tali smell, or something else? 

[CronoDragoon]

Feelin' kinda dumb. I just cannot translate your question. You're asking what Tali smells like, what scent did Tali smell, or something else? 

 

Just an inside joke on the BSN. There was once an infamous thread about what quarian sweat would smell like.

[von uber]

Also: liara, menace or marvellous?

[Hadeedak]

Just an inside joke on the BSN. There was once an infamous thread about what quarian sweat would smell like.

 

Does this prove IT?

[ImaginaryMatter]

I see a lot of people on these boards painting Americans with the same brush these days, and I don't like it.

 

We'll show them.

 

Get out the fireworks!

[mopotter]

Yeah, girl cheated on me - I'll give her a second chance, it will be a different experience!

 

/sarcasm

Well, if your a dreamer and have a serious crush on them, you can hope.  But don't try it a 3rd time.  

[Hadeedak]

We'll show them.

 

Get out the fireworks!

 

I'm from Alaska. All I have is polar bears and snow. And a skidoo I could probably fix in a few years.

[von uber]

Alaska? Be careful, Putin will be looking to repatriate you lot next.

[kleindropper]

7) Why would Reapers need the Citadell at all, if they can arrive the the galaxy so fast?

 

- The citadel was used to shut down the relay system in previous cycles, preventing civilizations from joining together in resistance.  Why this wasn't target #1 for the Reapers is a mystery though.

 

8) (from previous run) Why WMD used on Garrus' homeworld was not used on Earth?

 

- The Reapers apparently were not interested in creating a Turian reaper and thus were satisfied with demoralizing destruction of Palaven.

[kleindropper]

18) Why did that terminatrix have metal hair around her head? And how did actual hair fit there then?

 

This is answered by EDI if you speak to her in Purgatory.

[Hadeedak]

Alaska? Be careful, Putin will be looking to repatriate you lot next.

 

Hey, the lower 48 bought us fair and square. I think they even got a reciept.

 

 

 

The Citadel was being used as a coordination center, so the Reapers may have been herding people that way and weakening it to make it easy to take intact. Which apparently worked for them.

[kleindropper]

Nostalgia glasses. ME1 is written with about the same amount of coherence and logic as ME3 (pre-ending).

 

I agree with this.  If Saren is a Spectre in good standing, why would he need the Conduit at all?  Why wouldn't he just walk up to the Council chambers (as Shep freely does throughout the game) and actuate the Citadel controls for  Sovereign during a sneak attack?

[Iakus]

I agree with this.  If Saren is a Spectre in good standing, why would he need the Conduit at all?  Why wouldn't he just walk up to the Council chambers (as Shep freely does throughout the game) and actuate the Citadel controls for  Sovereign during a sneak attack?

 

Because he didn't know what the problem was at that time.  He had no more idea what the Conduit was than Shepard (seriously, he was operating on the same beacon visions as Shepard, just getting them a little sooner).  By the time he figured out the problem lay with the Keepers, he was already revealed as being behind the Eden Prime attack.

[marcelo caldas]

7) Why would Reapers need the Citadell at all, if they can arrive the the galaxy so fast?

 

- The citadel was used to shut down the relay system in previous cycles, preventing civilations from joining together in resistance.  Why this wasn't target #1 for the Reapers is a mystery though.

 

Even after they took the Citadel they "decided" not to shut down the relay network.

[marcelo caldas]

Because he didn't know what the problem was at that time.  He had no more idea what the Conduit was than Shepard (seriously, he was operating on the same beacon visions as Shepard, just getting them a little sooner).  By the time he figured out the problem lay with the Keepers, he was already revealed as being behind the Eden Prime attack.

 

I disagree, he knew all the time, he needed Soverin to manually attach and hack the citadel.

[ImaginaryMatter]

I agree with this.  If Saren is a Spectre in good standing, why would he need the Conduit at all?  Why wouldn't he just walk up to the Council chambers (as Shep freely does throughout the game) and actuate the Citadel controls for  Sovereign during a sneak attack?

 

Presumably the Council chamber does have security in place as it is a high security facility (Wrex also mentions something about feeling snipers). If Saren tried to activate the console he would probably get sniped to death. Hence he needed an army to deal with security.

 

Also, we don't exactly know how much more informed Saren is of the Prothean sabotage. He like Shepard is trying to find the beacons in order to piece together the puzzle of why the Relays won't open.

[CronoDragoon]

Because he didn't know what the problem was at that time.  He had no more idea what the Conduit was than Shepard (seriously, he was operating on the same beacon visions as Shepard, just getting them a little sooner).  By the time he figured out the problem lay with the Keepers, he was already revealed as being behind the Eden Prime attack.

 

This doesn't solve anything. There's no reason to investigate the problem at all if he knows he can just access the relay to dark space from the terminal.

[KaiserShep]

Also: liara, menace or marvellous?

 

 

 

Does this prove IT?

 

Doesn't everything?

[kleindropper]

Because he didn't know what the problem was at that time.  He had no more idea what the Conduit was than Shepard (seriously, he was operating on the same beacon visions as Shepard, just getting them a little sooner).  By the time he figured out the problem lay with the Keepers, he was already revealed as being behind the Eden Prime attack.

 

But the Conduit has nothing to do with handing Citadel control over to Sovereign, it's just a sexy way to get to the Presidium. The conduit is not relevant to the story if Saren already has access to Citadel tower as a Specter in good standing.

 

Now if Saren needed some kind of Prothean software from Ilos to get the Citadel up and running, that would be different.

[von uber]

Possibly, might make mass effect a little short though.

[ImaginaryMatter]

But the Conduit has nothing to do with handing Citadel control over to Sovereign, it's just a sexy way to get to the Presidium. The conduit is not relevant to the story if Saren already has access to Citadel tower as a Specter in good standing.

 

Now if Saren needed some kind of Prothean software from Ilos to get the Citadel up and running, that would be different.

 

Even if Saren is a Spectre it doesn't mean the security in place would stand by as he fiddled around with the console, and a security presence is a sure bet. This is assuming if he knew all he had to do was activate the console.

 

We don't know if Saren knows what exactly the Conduit is or what the extent of the Prothean sabotage was (if for example they somehow damaged the relay itself no amount of console fiddling or Sovereign hacking would help). The beacons didn't explain what exactly either of these were, if Saren too was looking at the beacons for information it is safe to assume he has similar information as Shepard, it's not like Sovereign knew everything. If that's the case then all Saren knew was that the Conduit and Ilos were some sort of key.

[CronoDragoon]

Even if Saren is a Spectre it doesn't mean the security in place would stand by as he fiddled around with the console, and a security presence is a sure bet. This is assuming if he knew all he had to do was activate the console.

 

Considering that's exactly what he does when he's in the Citadel endgame, yes he knew. You could perhaps make the argument that Sovereign didn't know if the console would also not work, but really he's not going to try it? He's going to go on a scavenger hunt for something that he doesn't even know what it does?

[KaiserShep]

I always assumed that the fact that the trap failed to spring this time around was evidence that someone was on to them, and this could adversely affect the cycle of harvesting in the future if left unchecked. The Crucible slipped by them for ages, and if you pick destroy, you undo all of that genetic archiving.

[ImaginaryMatter]

Considering that's exactly what he does when he's in the Citadel endgame, yes he knew. You could perhaps make the argument that Sovereign didn't know if the console would also not work, but really he's not going to try it? He's going to go on a scavenger hunt for something that he doesn't even know what it does?

 

Maybe, like Shepard they found out everything on Ilos. The beacons themselves only mentioned Ilos and the Conduit. Maybe they found out about the whole Keeper thing and Sovereign realized all he had to do was have Saren activate the console for the wards and relays, while it opened the Relay, and have the Geth fleet deal with the Citadel fleet.

 

Also, it is in character for Sovereign to take his time. Vigil tells us that Sovereign is cautious and patient, it has after all been waiting for an implied 2000 years already and is an eons old sentient machine. Perhaps, it considered a round up against the Citadel fleet was too risky a move and so was more than willing to bide it's time going on a scavenger hunt for information; who knows how it would have fared against the entire Citadel fleet, since most of the fleet by the end was patrolling the borders to the Terminus system.