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#26
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Back on topic though, the problem with blood magic is that people immediately label it as inherently evil, when in reality it's just another form of magic. It's typically used to do evil things, yes, but it isn't itself evil.


We don't know if that's true or not. It might be inherently evil or corrupting.

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I really don't think the specs will have that much detail to have reactions from party members tbh


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Warden : Hey sten can I--

Sten : NO.

 

I probably missed the point of the thread but that was fun.


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I really don't think the specs will have that much detail to have reactions from party members tbh

 

Devs said we WILL get proper reactions from party members. 



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Devs said we WILL get proper reactions from party members. 

 

OH in that case,

naaaaa, Vivienne isn't going to be a happy mama


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I don't really think Vivienne would care. She might consider it gauche, but she doesn't appear to be that religious and is willing to do anything to achieve her goals, so I doubt she'd begrudge the Inquisitor the same if it's just a matter of magical style.


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OH in that case,

naaaaa, Vivienne isn't going to be a happy mama

 

Wow there mama.

Spoiler

 

On a serious note though there were quite a lot of speculations that could be true about her being a power hungry witch that could be a blood mage herself. Who knows. 


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I don't really think Vivienne would care. She might consider it gauche, but she doesn't appear to be that religious and is willing to do anything to achieve her goals, so I doubt she'd begrudge the Inquisitor the same if it's just a matter of magical style.

 

A First Enchanter that is pro-circle and condoning blood magic? imo she's gonna be annoyed, at least.


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Sera to her buddies at the bar:  If that inquisitor becomes a blood mage ... so help me I'll ...



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A First Enchanter that is pro-circle and condoning blood magic? imo she's gonna be annoyed, at least.


I agree. I think any non-Circle sanctioned magic might get a reaction from her. Would Vivienne see Vashoth and Dalish mage protagonists as maleficar, since the apostates would employ non-sanctioned magic? It happened with Morrigan being referred to as one by Alistair and Wynne, after all. That may be a hurdle that the protagonist needs to deal with, as a non-Andrastian mage.

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Vivienne will more than likely be conflicted about it. She'll likely despise it as a First Enchanter/Circle Mage, naturally. Knowing her Machiavellian tendencies, she will tolerate the Inquisitor's usage so long as it ultimately supports her own ends. 

 

By virtue of the information that we have on her, it is safest to say that it can go either way and that we do not know. 


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A First Enchanter that is pro-circle and condoning blood magic? imo she's gonna be annoyed, at least.

Mildly, perhaps. But I think she'd wave it off as a useful asset in the current crisis. I think the only reason she'd have to object to it is it damaging the social standing of mages overall.

 

 

I agree. I think any non-Circle sanctioned magic might get a reaction from her. Would Vivienne see Vashoth and Dalish mage protagonists as maleficar, since the apostates would employ non-sanctioned magic? It happened with Morrigan being referred to as one by Alistair and Wynne, after all. That may be a hurdle that the protagonist needs to deal with, as a non-Andrastian mage.

If she can get her power back, I don't think she'll have too strong of an opinion. Her views on religion have never been mentioned, and I would doubt that they're all that strong; her reasons for preferring the Circle seem to have more to do with preferring an ordered hierarchy (of which she may be on top) than any Chantry doctrine.


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Mildly, perhaps. But I think she'd wave it off as a useful asset in the current crisis. I think the only reason she'd have to object to it is it damaging the social standing of mages overall.

If she can get her power back, I don't think she'll have too strong of an opinion. Her views on religion have never been mentioned, and I would doubt that they're all that strong; her reasons for preferring the Circle seem to have more to do with preferring an ordered hierarchy (of which she may be on top) than any Chantry doctrine.

 

I disagree, and I think you're just kind of lowkey trying to insult her character so I'm just gonna stop here.


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A First Enchanter that is pro-circle and condoning blood magic? imo she's gonna be annoyed, at least.

 

Of course she would, It goes against the system that is her bread and butter, even if she does have no issue with it personally (which i strongly doubt) she wouldn't support it likely because if it comes to light she is around blood mages, it negatively effects her own position.


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I disagree, and I think you're just kind of lowkey trying to insult her character so I'm just gonna stop here.

Er, why? I have no issues with blood magic, so I think this'd be something I'd agree with Vivienne on.

I'm trying to dial back a bit on my negative opinion of her because it seems like interesting possibilities are still available, especially if she contrasts in some ways still with the more devout Andrastians.

 

Of course she would, It goes against the system that is her bread and butter, even if she does have no issue with it personally (which i strongly doubt) she wouldn't support it likely because if it comes to light she is around blood mages, it negatively effects her own position.

It went all right for Grey Wardens. I doubt it'll do too much damage here.



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I disagree, and I think you're just kind of lowkey trying to insult her character so I'm just gonna stop here.

 

How is that insulting to Vivienne? 



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It's calling her power hungry. 

 

Which there's every reason to believe that she is. But I digress. 



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It went all right for Grey Wardens. I doubt it'll do too much damage here.

 

When they become part of the Circle and go under Monarchical or Chantry control, that may even be a comparable situation.



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When they become part of the Circle and go under Monarchical or Chantry control, that may even be a comparable situation.

Er, the Wardens have never been any of those things.



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Er, the Wardens have never been any of those things.

 

Exactly. Different organization, different rules.

 

Makes no sense comparing a multinational racial, international group with some one who acts at the behest of the circle.



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Exactly. Different organization, different rules.

 

Makes no sense comparing a multinational racial, international group with some one who acts at the behest of the circle.

The Inquisition does not.



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The Inquisition does not.

 

The Inquisition may or may not be a permanent institution, we will see.

 

The Circle though?

 

I'd bet money that's coming back.



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The Inquisition may or may not be a permanent institution, we will see.

 

The Circle though?

 

I'd bet money that's coming back.

In some form, perhaps. By no means do I think that it'll automatically be controlled by the Chantry or involve the templars. My current evenhanded guess is that there'll be new Circles opened for newly empowered mages in various nations, but who runs them will be highly inconsistent, with the Chantry handling some and others being self-ruled, and the rebel mages will likely never be truly recaptured. I do think the Chantry will be broken enough, as well as the templars given the Red schism, for them to be on a far more even footing with the mages and not able to just bring the mages under their power anymore.


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#49
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How is that insulting to Vivienne? 

 

It's calling her power hungry. 


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Justinia.

 

Do you think you will like the character Vivienne?