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I think we might finally get to see the ruins of Arlathan in DA:I.

 

Something I noticed was, when I was playing Heroes of Dragon Age on my iPad (I don't think it's that great of a game, but it's okay as time-wasters go), there is a map to go through with the Tevinter Imperium invading the elves.  At the very last map it says that the Tevinters caused the earth to open up and swallow up Arlathan.  The representative image shows a massive crack in the ground.

 

We haven't seen this huge chasm in-game (yet), but if you've read Asunder, you know of just such a gaping hole in the earth.  What if Arlathan were located in the Adamantine Wastes (or was it Amaranthine?).  I think we'll be getting Adamant Keep for our Inquisitor, if we choose to take it, so we'll be right in that area.  If that is where Arlathan is, maybe we can go down into the Deep Roads and find some remnants of it (and fight darkspawn).

 

Adamant Keep also had griffin quarters (called weyrs in Asunder where I'd assume they'd be more like aeries, so I suspect Gaider might have read a bit of Anne McCaffrey in the past) that opened up into that chasm.  Even though we know that the Wardens owned Adamant, it could be that griffins are somehow connected to Arlathan as well.

 

We've seen some concept art that may be some ruins of Arlathan--perhaps on the other side of the Wastes?  Something that didn't get swallowed up?

 

If the Tevinter really did swallow up Arlathan into the earth/Deep Roads, that explains why no one has found it.  If it's in the Wastes, in that big chasm, well, I think I can see why no one would go there looking for an ancient elven city, when they're going to have to face hordes of darkspawn to do so.

 

Alternatively, it may be that the city didn't fall into a massive hole, but was caused to be overgrown, "swallowed up by the earth" in the sense that the earth and foliage reclaimed it.

 

Anyone else have thoughts on the matter?



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An interesing idea, but I don't think it is correct.

 

Adamant fortress is in the Western Approach, Orlais, while - if you look at the map of Thedas - Arlathan is /or was/ to the northwest of Antiva. And Arlathan stood in a forest, not in a wasteland.

 

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Judging from the concept art above, we'll get to visit Arlathan; it stands in a forest and more or less still above ground.



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Assuming it's in DA:I, I wonder if we'll get the option of sinking it.



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An interesing idea, but I don't think it is correct.

 

Adamant fortress is in the Western Approach, Orlais, while - if you look at the map of Thedas - Arlathan is /or was/ to the northwest of Antiva. And Arlathan stood in a forest, not in a wasteland.

 

1390346047563.jpg

 

Judging from the concept art above, we'll get to visit Arlathan; it stands in a forest and more or less still above ground.

I wonder if it's in present time?

 

It certainly doesn't look like a ruin.



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It must be in present time, there was no time travel in Dragon Age. Yet.

 

The left half of the circular bridge and the one leading to the overgrown building is clearly ruined, so I'd say this is a ruin.



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I wonder if it's in present time?

 

It certainly doesn't look like a ruin.

 

If that isn't meant to be a fountain, then it looks to me like the city might be underwater, rather than underground.  Do you see how tiny that person is?  Not that fountains couldn't be that huge.

 

Personally I really look forward to seeing Arlathan.

 

My theory was based on the "Arlathan being swallowed up by the earth" notion.  And the Wastes weren't always a waste--they were made that way during the first Blight, and Adamant Keep was then placed there to prevent more darkspawn incursions from rising up from the chasm.  Yet, no one knew what caused that huge chasm.  Could be natural Theodosian geology.  Could be something magical in nature.  We don't know.

 

It seems to me it shouldn't be that hard to locate Arlathan if it weren't sunk beneath the earth.  After all, it was an entire city and a pretty big one at that...



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I can dig it. 


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Look at the map of Thedas. You'll see that Arlathan Forest is between the border of Tevinter and Antiva. Sorry, but no Arlathan in Orlais.



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For anyone who might be interested, here is a map of Thedas.

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 weyrs

 

That's a dragon "nest"! There is also a region in Antiva called the Weyr.

 

As for Arlathan, I know a lot of people love to think that it was in the forest of the same name, but I know plenty of place on the planet with the same name as something else miles away from each others. Washington DC is not in the state of Washington in the US for example.



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I think it would be kind of neat if the Inquisitor finally located the sunken city of Arlathan.

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That's a dragon "nest"! There is also a region in Antiva called the Weyr.

 

As for Arlathan, I know a lot of people love to think that it was in the forest of the same name, but I know plenty of place on the planet with the same name as something else miles away from each others. Washington DC is not in the state of Washington in the US for example.

 

A weyr is actually a sheepfold, I think, in Celtic.  It's only used to refer to a dragon's home by Anne McCaffrey, even according to the wiki entry (did you read it?  And the part about it specifically referring to the dragons' quarters in Anne McCaffrey's Pern novels?)--though others may have adopted that term.  "Aerie" would be more appropriate for a flying creature's lofty roof.  It makes sense she'd use the word "weyr" because she moved to Ireland and lived there for years before she died.  It would be a word she had heard, and it would also lend to the implication that her world's dragons are not particularly violent/aggressive.

 

As I said, I think Gaider had read McCaffrey's work and mixed up a weyr with the more appropriate aerie (particularly when we're talking about griffins, not McCaffrey's dragons).



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A weyr is actually a sheepfold, I think, in Celtic.  It's only used to refer to a dragon's home by Anne McCaffrey, even according to the wiki entry (did you read it?  And the part about it specifically referring to the dragons' quarters in Anne McCaffrey's Pern novels?)--though others may have adopted that term.  "Aerie" would be more appropriate for a flying creature's lofty roof.  It makes sense she'd use the word "weyr" because she moved to Ireland and lived there for years before she died.  It would be a word she had heard, and it would also lend to the implication that her world's dragons are not particularly violent/aggressive.

 

As I said, I think Gaider had read McCaffrey's work and mixed up a weyr with the more appropriate aerie (particularly when we're talking about griffins, not McCaffrey's dragons).

 

My dragon nest was a jest. :)

 

Although, the one in Antiva is where the Witch of the Weyr lives (aka Yavana with her Hall of the Sleepers full of dragons, well it was full of dragons).



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I really look forward to seeing arlathan if we get to

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An interesing idea, but I don't think it is correct.

 

Adamant fortress is in the Western Approach, Orlais, while - if you look at the map of Thedas - Arlathan is /or was/ to the northwest of Antiva. And Arlathan stood in a forest, not in a wasteland.

 

1390346047563.jpg

 

Judging from the concept art above, we'll get to visit Arlathan; it stands in a forest and more or less still above ground.

 

 

Wow is this Dragon Age or The Hunger Games?

Looks dope though.


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Wow is this Dragon Age or The Hunger Games?

Looks dope though.

Lol ill never unsee that now



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An interesing idea, but I don't think it is correct.

Adamant fortress is in the Western Approach, Orlais, while - if you look at the map of Thedas - Arlathan is /or was/ to the northwest of Antiva. And Arlathan stood in a forest, not in a wasteland.

1390346047563.jpg

Judging from the concept art above, we'll get to visit Arlathan; it stands in a forest and more or less still above ground.


That would be interesting. I wonder what ramifications there could be if something important could be unearthed in the ruins. Eluvians, clandestine knowledge about the Arlathan elves, hidden tomes detailing arcane knowledge...

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Lol ill never unsee that now

 

it's true though lol!


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it's true though lol!

 

Its something to do with that worthless sinkhole i guess, have teams compete from all over Thedas for ridiculously decadent and expensive prizes and then in the aftermath you can just dump the corpses into the ruin.

 

It can be like that Tournament hosted in the Freemarches, except you know, Important.



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That would be interesting. I wonder what ramifications there could be if something important could be unearthed in the ruins. Eluvians, clandestine knowledge about the Arlathan elves, hidden tomes detailing arcane knowledge...

 

 

I don't think there will be too much left to find.  Looks like much of the city is overgrown or underwater.  I'm sure there will be some things to find, probably new and terrifying enemies as well.

 

I wonder if any elves might be living among the ruins?  Or any twisted abominations that once used to be elves?  Hmmm...



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I don't think there will be too much left to find.  Looks like much of the city is overgrown or underwater.  I'm sure there will be some things to find, probably new and terrifying enemies as well.

 

I wonder if any elves might be living among the ruins?  Or any twisted abominations that once used to be elves?  Hmmm...

I assume something similar to what we've encountered in the Brecillian Forest



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I assume something similar to what we've encountered in the Brecillian Forest

 

Aka a forgotten ruin meant to be left in the sands of time that the PC stumbles into regardless of what common sense has to say about it.

 

:( Its a city meant and kept only for the dead now.



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Well, the final stand of Arlathan was on Sundermount, and we know that place was pretty haunted. I would expect nothing less from the capital.