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[DrBlingzle]

I was just thinking that its perfectly possible (and probable in my opinion) that the races of Thedas (Dwarves, Elves and Humans) evolved from the same species. The most obvious supporting evidence is that they all look relativity similar. They are all humanoid, share the same basic features, live for about the same length of time and, most importantly, can breed between each other. This strongly suggests that their genetics are similar and its worth noting that if the half-breed children from these different races are fertile then, scientifically speaking, Dwarves, Elves and Humans are merely different breeds of the same species.

 

The one race I'm unsure about is the Qunari. Its unknown whether they can breed with other races and according to Aurelian Titus in until we sleep dragon fire could of been their birth right which could suggest that they are related to dragons.

 

So what do you think? Do you think evolution exists in Thedas at all? Discuss.   

[Andraste_Reborn]

I think this is really, really likely. We know that humans, elves and dwarves can interbreed and (in the case of humans and elves at least) produce fertile offspring. That means that by some definitions they aren't separate species at all. We don't know about the Qunari, but they look similar enough that I suspect they're related as well.

 

Mind you, the only explanation for the offspring of an elf and a human being a full-blood human instead of a half-elf is "a wizard did it". Actual genes just don't work like that. My personal wacky theory is that both the Qunari and the elves were created by magic, while dwarves just took a slightly different evolutionary path by natural means.

[DrBlingzle]

I think this is really, really likely. We know that humans, elves and dwarves can interbreed and (in the case of humans and elves at least) produce fertile offspring. That means that by some definitions they aren't separate species at all. We don't know about the Qunari, but they look similar enough that I suspect they're related as well.

 

Mind you, the only explanation for the offspring of an elf and a human being a full-blood human instead of a half-elf is "a wizard did it". Actual genes just don't work like that. My personal wacky theory is that both the Qunari and the elves were created by magic, while dwarves just took a slightly different evolutionary path by natural means.

If the elves were created by magic it could explain how they were ageless in the beginning (and the "a wizard did it" excuse might actually make sense for once). Nice idea.   

[Brass_Buckles]

I'm going to refer back to a question I asked Gaider long ago back when Origins was still a new game.  No, I don't have links.

 

I asked whether, if an elf-born human were to have children with an elf, and their child had children with an elf, and so forth, if they'd ever become elves again.  Gaider said, no one knew, but he also said that genetics as we know them do not work that way in Thedas.  So you look like one parent or the other or both because you do, and not because of complex genetics.

 

So, while all of the races could be the same species, it's just as likely that they aren't.  There are some species in the real world that can mate and produce fertile offspring.  Cats, for instance.  Male hybrid felines will usually be sterile, but females are almost always fertile.  And in Thedas, races who interbreed do not produce halfbreeds, but instead one race or the other.  Anything mixed with elf produces the non-elf's race.  Supposedly, dwarven/human hybrids will be human.  It may be that anything hybridizing with qunari ends up being qunari.

 

From a scientific standpoint I'd agree with you, but Thedas is at least as magical as it is scientific, so frankly we just don't know.  Could it be that they all changed from an original species?  Sure.  Could it be that each individual race was placed there by a god/gods?  Yup.  Could some original race have been plopped down by a god or gods, and then various events changed them?  Again, yes.

 

If this were sci-fi, evolutionary theory would work better.  But Thedas is so magical in nature that we can't be sure whether it's evolution or magic changing things over time.

[Maiden Crowe]

I think this is really, really likely. We know that humans, elves and dwarves can interbreed and (in the case of humans and elves at least) produce fertile offspring. That means that by some definitions they aren't separate species at all. We don't know about the Qunari, but they look similar enough that I suspect they're related as well.

 

Mind you, the only explanation for the offspring of an elf and a human being a full-blood human instead of a half-elf is "a wizard did it". Actual genes just don't work like that. My personal wacky theory is that both the Qunari and the elves were created by magic, while dwarves just took a slightly different evolutionary path by natural means.

 

The Dwarves were born of the maggots that writhed under the flesh of giants.

[Spectre slayer]

I doubt it, elves used to be immortal and were alone for quite some time before they made contact with the dwarves who were on there own underground and thrived it wasn't until 1,500 years after their encounter with the dwarves that humanity even arrived in thedas and they withdrew from Human contact about 350 years after that, and no one knows exactly where they Qunari came from and the whole they were made by magic thing doesn't make much sense even though they may have a connection to dragons.

When humans first appeared from wherever they left from the elves were extremely hostile to them, and there was no humans present on the continent, also inter species breeding in dragon age doesn't really work like that.

Dwarves aren't very fertile to begin with and don't really mate with other race's, but if they do children are very rare, a dwarf and and elf will produce a dwarf, a dwarf and a human will produce something that's neither a dwarf or a human since it'll be to tall to be a dwarf and to short for a human.

Elves that mate with humans will produce elf bloodied humans that look like human.

Who knows what a hybrid Qunari would look like if they ever felt a need tobreed with other species.

http://social.biowar...ex/575146/?lf=8

There isn't to much or anything backing up the single species thing since they all came from different places and the elves were on their own for 3,000 years before contact with dwarves, 4,500 years before they even knew what a human was so no I don't think they were ever a single species or evolved from one as they are actually very different races that all arrived or showed themselves at different times.

[DrBlingzle]

There isn't to much or anything backing up the single species thing since they all came from different places and the elves were on their own for 3,000 years before contact with dwarves, 4,500 years before they even knew what a human was so no I don't think they were ever a single species or evolved from one as they are actually very different races that all arrived or showed themselves at different times.

The original species could of spread out in different directions. Due to the differences in environments they would of evolved differently. Humans could of evolved in Par-vollen, elves in mainland Thedas and Dwarves underground.

 

A bit like ******-sapiens and neanderthals.

[DrBlingzle]

 

A bit like ******-sapiens and neanderthals.

Oh seriously?!? That is not offensive!

[Hanako Ikezawa]

They are all the children of these guys: