I think Lob might quit if it's the Dalish's fault.
It'd be interesting if the main villain was a Forgotten One, but I tend to think that the Forgotten Ones are the Old Gods of Tevinter.
I don't think the Dalish intentionally did it, but the stage is set for something to possibly happen and with what we currently know, I can't come up with another source of the veil tears.
The Chantry's depiction of the events leading up to the Blight aren't even confirmed. It's literally just one theory. We can't really use a scenario as evidence without first proving the scenario is what actually occurred.
The only thing that is unclear is what caused the Golden City to turn black. The fact that Magisters did enter the Golden City to steal god(s) power and returned as darkspawn is 100% confirmed by one of these Magisters in Legacy...
Although some think the city was black already, which is terrifying.
The only thing that is unclear is what caused the Golden City to turn black. The fact that Magisters did enter the Golden City to steal god(s) power and returned as darkspawn is 100% confirmed by one of these Magisters in Legacy...
Like most things in DA that is open to interpretation. While I agree with you on this, I can't deny that there is room for other interpretations. The developers aren't going to answer that definitively anytime soon.
The only thing that is unclear is what caused the Golden City to turn black. The fact that Magisters did enter the Golden City to steal god(s) power and returned as darkspawn is 100% confirmed by one of these Magisters in Legacy...
I know what Corypheus says, but it's broken and confused. It's strong evidence that something like the claim happened, but I don't think it's exactly 100% confirmation. He probably is a magister and he probably did think he was going to the Golden City, but the evidence is what I would call.. strong circumstantial evidence. Not a definite confirmation, at least not by my personal standard.
this isn't what i THINK but what i would like to see (as i have no clue how the veil could tear so without it being a result of blood conflict weakening then breaking the veil)
and means looking an sandal's "prophecy"
One day the magic will come back blah, blah, blah, blah
unlike others i Don't believe this means everyone will become magical. But that the old magic that was lost over time will come back. this is important, because I don't believe the evil were immortal. Instead they had magic that pretty much made them immortal.
so when this magic returns the Elves become immortal once again.
as to the HE this requires an even greater stretch in logic.
who are the "gods" and the forgotten ones.
to me the god's are locked away in the golden city, at the centre of the fade.
the forgotten ones are the Old gods trapped not in an unknown void but locked inside the earth.
and it was one of the forgotten ones that lead the Imperium to try and take the golden city knowing the gods would kick them out, the moment they stepped foot their (which lead to the blight and the freeing of the old gods even if corrupted it was all Dumat's plan to destroy the earth as a way to get back at the dread wolf for his treachery.
But its not Fen'Heral thats coming back, Elgar'nan the chief deity of Dalish and god of vengeance. Remember despite creating life he is associated with blackness having thrown his father the sun (more on that later) beneath the earth.
it was he who turned the Golden city black to signify his vengeance idea (pissed off that the old gods/forgotten ones had broken the truce) it is his return!
think about it he was the creator of life (in dalish lore) but there was no man, man came later. Ever since man the dalish were pushed back further and further man reigning is an affront and its a return of the god of vengeance and in his rage escapes the golden/black city tears open the veil and returns to thedas to **** **** up.
which brings us back to the sun, as mentioned earlier the sun existed before Elgar'nan but was over thrown when he "burned" the life that Elgar'nan had created. but what if it wasn't a literal burning? what if the sun which was Elgar'nan's father after all created his own actors to slay the the elves?
that man was in fact created by the sun after all what imagery is the "maker" associated with? the sun.
so Elgar'nans return is all about vengeance, vengeance on the old gods, the blight, the darkspawn and the people who follow the sun and destroyed his people the elves…..humans. Elgar'nan threatens to destroy everything that he's opposed to everything that has damaged his creation.
Inquisition is not just about closing veil tears but stopping a rampaging god of vengeance.
those that follow andraste learn the maker isn't the be all and end all nor is the chantry "correct"
those that follow the old god's start to return step out of the shadows.
those that only believe in the stone learn there's more to life and digging holes.
those that follow the Qun are left questioning there every way of life.
and those that follow dalish teachings learn worshipping a god of vengeance isn't exactly the best thing to do.
this creates massive conflict over all especially for dalish inquisitors.
closing the veil and pushing back Elgar'nan may destroy old magic once again returning the elves to mere mortals to trod upon by others once again, but not doing so threatens to destroy the world itself.
but how do we defeat a god? well how about with the reincarnation of Urthemiel itself not a half dead blight affected old god, but a fully renewed "forgotten one" ready to go to to toe with the god of vengeance and return beauty to the lands once again. fittingly sacrificing itself in the process and leaving us all questioning just who is good and who is evil on the grandest stage of them all.
this isn't what i THINK but what i would like to see (as i have no clue how the veil could tear so without it being a result of blood conflict weakening then breaking the veil)
and means looking an sandal's "prophecy"
One day the magic will come back blah, blah, blah, blah
unlike others i Don't believe this means everyone will become magical. But that the old magic that was lost over time will come back. this is important, because I don't believe the evil were immortal. Instead they had magic that pretty much made them immortal.
so when this magic returns the Elves become immortal once again.
as to the HE this requires an even greater stretch in logic.
who are the "gods" and the forgotten ones.
to me the god's are locked away in the golden city, at the centre of the fade.
the forgotten ones are the Old gods trapped not in an unknown void but locked inside the earth.
and it was one of the forgotten ones that lead the Imperium to try and take the golden city knowing the gods would kick them out, the moment they stepped foot their (which lead to the blight and the freeing of the old gods even if corrupted it was all Dumat's plan to destroy the earth as a way to get back at the dread wolf for his treachery.
But its not Fen'Heral thats coming back, Elgar'nan the chief deity of Dalish and god of vengeance. Remember despite creating life he is associated with blackness having thrown his father the sun (more on that later) beneath the earth.
it was he who turned the Golden city black to signify his vengeance idea (pissed off that the old gods/forgotten ones had broken the truce) it is his return!
think about it he was the creator of life (in dalish lore) but there was no man, man came later. Ever since man the dalish were pushed back further and further man reigning is an affront and its a return of the god of vengeance and in his rage escapes the golden/black city tears open the veil and returns to thedas to **** **** up.
which brings us back to the sun, as mentioned earlier the sun existed before Elgar'nan but was over thrown when he "burned" the life that Elgar'nan had created. but what if it wasn't a literal burning? what if the sun which was Elgar'nan's father after all created his own actors to slay the the elves?
that man was in fact created by the sun after all what imagery is the "maker" associated with? the sun.
so Elgar'nans return is all about vengeance, vengeance on the old gods, the blight, the darkspawn and the people who follow the sun and destroyed his people the elves…..humans. Elgar'nan threatens to destroy everything that he's opposed to everything that has damaged his creation.
Inquisition is not just about closing veil tears but stopping a rampaging god of vengeance.
those that follow andraste learn the maker isn't the be all and end all nor is the chantry "correct"
those that follow the old god's start to return step out of the shadows.
those that only believe in the stone learn there's more to life and digging holes.
those that follow the Qun are left questioning there every way of life.
and those that follow dalish teachings learn worshipping a god of vengeance isn't exactly the best thing to do.
this creates massive conflict over all especially for dalish inquisitors.
closing the veil and pushing back Elgar'nan may destroy old magic once again returning the elves to mere mortals to trod upon by others once again, but not doing so threatens to destroy the world itself.
but how do we defeat a god? well how about with the reincarnation of Urthemiel itself not a half dead blight affected old god, but a fully renewed "forgotten one" ready to go to to toe with the god of vengeance and return beauty to the lands once again. fittingly sacrificing itself in the process and leaving us all questioning just who is good and who is evil on the grandest stage of them all.
Someone romanced a Tranquil :/
A group of mages who tried to emulate the tevinter magisters of old and enter the Black City?
Only this time, the ritual failed and created a huge backlash that ripped open the veil and allowed demons to freely invade the material world that they envy so badly.
I think Flemeth is behind it. It's pretty obvious that the Warden, Alistair, Hawke - all these important historical figures - are her chess pieces.
Yavana, Sandal's prophecy... the Dalish belief that all elves once knew magic.
I don't understand WHY Flemeth is trying to restore magic to the world, or what Morrigan's aim is in opposing her, but I imagine that if that particular plot thread is followed in Inquisition, we'll have to choose to assist one of them.
I think Flemeth is behind it. It's pretty obvious that the Warden, Alistair, Hawke - all these important historical figures - are her chess pieces.
Yavana, Sandal's prophecy... the Dalish belief that all elves once knew magic.
I don't understand WHY Flemeth is trying to restore magic to the world, or what Morrigan's aim is in opposing her, but I imagine that if that particular plot thread is followed in Inquisition, we'll have to choose to assist one of them.
I would really like this, actually.
Though I hope it's not Flemeth and we can actually be really surprised when we find out who it is.
Maybe it's Fen'Harel behind it all or it could be Dumath if he isn't dead.
nah, if anything is would be one of the old gods still left. dumat was the first, and i think more than likely, they would explore the other old gods before they went back to dumat
nah, if anything is would be one of the old gods still left. dumat was the first, and i think more than likely, they would explore the other old gods before they went back to dumat
Razikale - God of mystery
Luscan- God of night
makes sense the dragon/god of mystery may be trying to get free rather then wait for some tainted nit to wake him.
Someone summoning My Little Ponies...
j/k
If I'd guess on the mortal plane, red lyrium catastrophy.
If I'd say supernatural, maybe all those Elven primal gods and demons finally got out of the Wolf god's trap.
Maybe someone woke up a dreaming old god before it could be Blighted
Am I the only one who thinks that no one caused them? I mean, my theory is that the already-weak Veil over Kirkwall was completely torn when the Mage-Templar War started and pretty much every single mage summoned demons or became a blood mage, and that that caused a chain reaction where it ripped open in other places. Like if you get a hole in fabric and it spreads to the rest of the cloth if unchecked.
That said, I definitely think that someone or something is taking advantage of the Veil tears to wreck havoc, and that said being is the big bad of Inquisition. Whether this is Flemeth, Morrigan, Dumat, Corypheus, a random villager, well, we can only speculate
Am I the only one who thinks that no one caused them? I mean, my theory is that the already-weak Veil over Kirkwall was completely torn when the Mage-Templar War started and pretty much every single mage summoned demons or became a blood mage, and that that caused a chain reaction where it ripped open in other places. Like if you get a hole in fabric and it spreads to the rest of the cloth if unchecked.
That said, I definitely think that someone or something is taking advantage of the Veil tears to wreck havoc, and that said being is the big bad of Inquisition. Whether this is Flemeth, Morrigan, Dumat, Corypheus, a random villager, well, we can only speculate
The problem with the first part is that we don't know how much it takes to tear the Veil. If you are to say Kirkwall's battle was heavy, then the Veil tearing in the Borellean forest would have been so much worse than what it was. The whole DA:O mage tower would have been almost sufficient too. Summoning a bunch of demons weakens the Veil, but I don't think it tore it.
That said, you're second point is pretty accurate. Since the Inquisition is involved, we (the players) can likely assume that someone or some group in Thedas is responsible for the Tear.
Am I the only one who thinks that no one caused them? I mean, my theory is that the already-weak Veil over Kirkwall was completely torn when the Mage-Templar War started and pretty much every single mage summoned demons or became a blood mage, and that that caused a chain reaction where it ripped open in other places. Like if you get a hole in fabric and it spreads to the rest of the cloth if unchecked.
That said, I definitely think that someone or something is taking advantage of the Veil tears to wreck havoc, and that said being is the big bad of Inquisition. Whether this is Flemeth, Morrigan, Dumat, Corypheus, a random villager, well, we can only speculate
Except we do know that someone is behind it. Laidlaw and Gaider have both said that there is a "villain" type character who is not only responsible for the veil tears but most of the other chaos going on recently- The Orlesian Civil War, The Chantry Rift/templarVsMages/City Elf rebellion/kirkwall/Nevarra Succession/and possibly even the 5th blight in Ferelden.
Am I the only one who thinks that no one caused them? I mean, my theory is that the already-weak Veil over Kirkwall was completely torn when the Mage-Templar War started and pretty much every single mage summoned demons or became a blood mage, and that that caused a chain reaction where it ripped open in other places. Like if you get a hole in fabric and it spreads to the rest of the cloth if unchecked.
That said, I definitely think that someone or something is taking advantage of the Veil tears to wreck havoc, and that said being is the big bad of Inquisition. Whether this is Flemeth, Morrigan, Dumat, Corypheus, a random villager, well, we can only speculate
I doubt you are the only one, but not every mage resorts to blood magic or demons saying other wise is very narrow viewed.
The only thing that is unclear is what caused the Golden City to turn black. The fact that Magisters did enter the Golden City to steal god(s) power and returned as darkspawn is 100% confirmed by one of these Magisters in Legacy...
Corypheus says that they were offered "the power of the gods themselves" by Dumat.
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