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What do you think caused the veil tears?


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#101
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I doubt you are the only one, but not every mage resorts to blood magic or demons saying otherwise is very narrow viewed.

 

I didn't mean every mage, because of course there are mages who find blood magic/demons disgusting. I just meant practically every mage in Kirkwall had become a blood mage or an abomination by the end of the game.

 

As for what's enough to sunder the Veil, Kirkwall's incident alone probably isn't enough, or we would have seen veil tears at the Circle. But Kirkwall has had a long-standing history of being a hotspot for human sacrifices, dark rituals, blood magic, and more, all of which would have weakened the Veil. The battle at the Gallows just would have been the straw that broke the camel's back, in my theory.



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I didn't mean every mage, because of course there are mages who find blood magic/demons disgusting. I just meant practically every mage in Kirkwall had become a blood mage or an abomination by the end of the game.

 

As for what's enough to sunder the Veil, Kirkwall's incident alone probably isn't enough, or we would have seen veil tears at the Circle. But Kirkwall has had a long-standing history of being a hotspot for human sacrifices, dark rituals, blood magic, and more, all of which would have weakened the Veil. The battle at the Gallows just would have been the straw that broke the camel's back, in my theory.

There were a few mages (that we know off) who didn't resort to blood magic in Kirkwall, but the ending of DA2 was a bit well lose on the details at the end we have no idea how many mages did blood magic or dealt with demons.

 

If that's true, then tear shouldn't happen so long after DA2 The Asunder novel happens 3 years after DA2 and I guess DA:I happens like year or half year after that.

That's a long time between those events and the tear naahhh there is somethings else at work here.



#103
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We know that it's suspiciously convenient that the world has been thrown into chaos right around the time the veil tears appear.

I can think of at least two chaotic events to come out of DA2 - the release of Corypheus, and Merril's Eluvian (I think a dev also confirmed that helping her fix the mirror would have consequences)

Part of why I suspect Flemeth is that I can't think of anyone else who would have knowledge of or be able to subtly meddle in those events... unless the perpetrator is a new character we've never seen or heard of before.

#104
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Well i can tell already it will be mage or or by abomnation as nothing else can do that so well at least game supports my idea of killing them even more to prevent such events...

 

when it comes on individual if we know that person it will be posssible flemeth , morrigan or corypheus...



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Hanako Ikezawa

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Well i can tell already it will be mage or or by abomnation as nothing else can do that so well at least game supports my idea of killing them even more to prevent such events...

 

when it comes on individual if we know that person it will be posssible flemeth , morrigan or corypheus...

I am waiting for the day where they show a nonmage behind it just to see your reaction. :P



#106
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I am waiting for the day where they show a nonmage behind it just to see your reaction. :P

And how non-mage would achieve that when they can't manipulate fade or affect veil... as far only creatures that have magic can affect that so either demons or mages which in demon case pretty much leads to mages as they are in more than 90 % reason why demon is behind veil.



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Hanako Ikezawa

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And how non-mage would achieve that when they can't manipulate fade or affect veil... as far only creatures that have magic can affect that so either demons or mages which in demon case pretty much leads to mages as they are in more than 90 % reason why demon is behind veil.

Well, we can play as a nonmage and are able to seal them(apparently we are the only ones who can seal these tears) so why not the reverse of that extend to the villain?



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I hope the Inquisitor did it. And at the end of the game when everyone's blaming everyone but him/her he/she just laughs evilly.


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#109
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Well, we can play as a nonmage and are able to seal them(apparently we are the only ones who can seal these tears) so why not the reverse of that extend to the villain?

 

To be honest i don't know how treat "we are only ones who can seal these tears" is that means that inq will have super powers or perahps mean like in warden case "you are only one who can save ferelden" which pretty much meant that you are only competent person in damn ferelden...

 

And pretty much even inq have super powers that makes him only guy on the planet who can do that same would go for non-mage who can torn veil which pretty much would make him in certain way "abomnation" which doesn't make him normal person just mutant.



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Flemeth or the Dread Wolf, or both.



#111
Dean_the_Young

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I would not be surprised if a cabal of demons, mundanes, and/or mages, or any combination of the two, were responsible.

 

Not sure if I would enjoy it, but unsurprised none the less.



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Most likely some stupid apostate and or tevinter blood mage/mages did it! Or like some have said corypheus could be the cause! OOOOOOR the sudden world war between the mages and templars caused it with so much death going on at once. I mean isn't a lot of death the cause of the veil weakening in some places like vigils keep and the Brecilian forest. 



#113
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My money is on Tevinters using blood-magic as the cause.

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Flemeth or the Dread Wolf, or both.

 

Flemeth riding the dread wolf...  Dog cavalry anybody?  Course i still like the mabari chariot idea



#115
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I'm personally voting for a non-mage that got access to red lyrium. A tiny shard of red lyrium left unattended caused a veil tear in DA2 (Bertrand's haunted house, it even summoned a spirit golem...). Why not poking the veil?

 

The concept art that shows the light pillar poking the veil (animated in the discovered DA video as well) has something that look similar to the (probably) red lyrium claws seen in Vivienne's recent screenshots. In fact, I think Vivienne is looking at the pillar of light in that screen.

 



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I didn't mean every mage, because of course there are mages who find blood magic/demons disgusting. I just meant practically every mage in Kirkwall had become a blood mage or an abomination by the end of the game.

 

As for what's enough to sunder the Veil, Kirkwall's incident alone probably isn't enough, or we would have seen veil tears at the Circle. But Kirkwall has had a long-standing history of being a hotspot for human sacrifices, dark rituals, blood magic, and more, all of which would have weakened the Veil. The battle at the Gallows just would have been the straw that broke the camel's back, in my theory.

I doubt it's directly related to Kirkwall because of the simple fact that we aren't going anywhere near it during Inquisition. The Inquisitioner is the only one that can repair veil tears, so if a massive one started there and chained everywhere else, it stands to reason we'd have to go back to Kirkwall and fix the original. Given our course is confirmed to be across Orlais and into Ferelden, but not up to the Free Marches, I would guess Kirkwall is out of the running as the cause. The tears are centralized in other areas.



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My money is on Tevinters using blood-magic as the cause.

 

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#118
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I would not be surprised if a cabal of demons, mundanes, and/or mages, or any combination of the two, were responsible.

 

Not sure if I would enjoy it, but unsurprised none the less.

Doesn't that cover everyone in Thedas except gods?



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A Circle had a cook-off and someone made a chilli con carne dish laced with lyrium. That night, the mystically explosive flatulence of a hundred mages and Templars ripped holes right through the veil.
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#120
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It could be possible that someone managed to either get enough lyrium or set up an elaborate ritual to pierce through a soft spot within the Veil.

These weak points, possibly caused by the Magister's first attempt to physically enter the Fade are easier to pierce through and thus require less magical energy to do so.

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its the schleets



#122
Dean_the_Young

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Doesn't that cover everyone in Thedas except gods?

 

They don't necessarily need to be a cabal- and the point was that it would be two of the three working together, not that it was any one of the three.