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[Lebanese Dude]

There's no mission statement, it's just that Bioware is one of the more equal opportunity games on the market and there's not exactly a lot of competition. Bioware's equality has actually regressed the more games it produced - boobs and butts are always bigger in sequels, Shepherd managed to lose weight but also get a boob job and a whole new face decided via beauty contest by the third game. Bioware's still the most progressive company out there, but I don't think they have ever stated any commitment to equality. If they had, they wouldn't hide away the female Hawke/Warden/Inquisitor in advertising like some kind of dirty secret they don't want potential customers to know about. There is no mission statement, just a lot of cool people in key positions who do their best to make a good game for everyone, but they don't control everything.

So there's no guarantee that the male to female companion ratio will be equal.

It's clear you assume that Bioware actively hides its diversity, as if it were in charge of marketing.

The developers themselves are what matter, and its pretty damn obvious that they're trying to improve in terms of diversity. If you think otherwise then you're misguided.

Also I don't speak on behalf of Bioware which away I used the word "apparent". Sure there is no actual guarantee, but given their current trajectory it's a safe assumption.

If you insist on being pessimistic thn go ahead.

Hell I can do it too. Bioware knows that inserting diversity is good for business so the evil EA tells then to insert as much as possible, while only marketing the human male with his busty LI, in order to attract many player groups and maximize profits.

[PinkDiamondstl]

Marethari's death was her own doing.

No it was Merrill 's unhealthy obsession with that tainted mirror . That is what lead to Marethri's death.

This is why I wanted our Warden to have a cameo appearance .Dalish elf-warden would have  smashed that thing to pieces the second she saw it.

[daveliam]

I'm not convinced there even will be another female companions.  Yeah, maybe there is a female companion who we haven't seen anything (gameplay, concept art, etc.) about yet, but I think it's just as likely that there are 3 women who join the inquisitor.  I don't think that it's impossible to think that this might be the case.

[Shadow Fox]

No it was Merrill 's unhealthy obsession with that tainted mirror . That is what lead to Marethri's death.

This is why I wanted our Warden to have a cameo appearance .Dalish elf-warden would have  smashed that thing to pieces the second she saw it.

Don't forget to ****** slap Merrill too.

[PinkDiamondstl]

Don't forget to ****** slap Merrill too.

Oh definitely!

So hard that she'd bounce off the floor.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Last I checked, Marethari didn't HAVE to let the Audacity possess her. Marethari certainly didn't support Merrill, but she also sure didn't try to stop her except by saying occasionally, "You shouldn't do that."

[thats1evildude]

Well, self-harm is always the best way to keep a loved one from doing something that you don't agree with. That's what my mom used to say, at least before she set herself on fire to protest my brother going to art school instead of university. Guess what he switched his degree to?

[Grieving Natashina]

I would call equal representation a mission of BioWare's.  The full presentation should be online in the next couple of weeks, but considering this article where Manveer Heir talks at GDC about representation in games, they seem to send a very clear message.

 

I do agree that there should be one more lady.  The problem is that, as far as I know, "Scribe Girl" has already been ruled out as a companion.  I haven't seen any other ladies from the concept art floating around.  Is there an example besides Scribe Girl of art that could be another lady or the outdated picture of the Mohawk Elf Girl?  So far, the odds of another lady besides Vivi, Cass and "Sera" is looking pretty grim.

 

If I'm wrong about Scribe Girl, please let me know.

 

As far as Merrill goes, I think she's alright in general.  A bit too ditzy for my taste, but a good person with a big heart.  Overall, how much I love or hate her really depends upon how I'm RP'ing my Hawke during that play session.

[Lebanese Dude]

Well, self-harm is always the best way to keep a loved one from doing something that you don't agree with. That's what my mom used to say, at least before she set herself on fire to protest my brother going to art school instead of university. Guess what he switched his degree to?

 

...This is disturbing....

Lebanese mothers have that power too except they verbally squeeze on the vein called "guilt".

 

They're like experts at it.

 

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On topic:

 

 

I'm not convinced there even will be another female companions.  Yeah, maybe there is a female companion who we haven't seen anything (gameplay, concept art, etc.) about yet, but I think it's just as likely that there are 3 women who join the inquisitor.  I don't think that it's impossible to think that this might be the case.

 

I don't understand why people are assuming that the other 3 are all men to begin with.

 

They're using characters that aren't even remotely confirmed to base their suppositions on. All 3 of the current assumptions (Cullen, Cole, Moustache-Guy) are also likely to be non-companion NPCs that are still part of the inquisition, like Leliana and the scribe girl.

 

I'm leaning towards Cole being a companion, given his nature. Cullen is more likely to be a non-companion like Steve or Traynor in ME3. Moustache-Guy is just shown in concept arts so far.

[Grieving Natashina]

...This is disturbing....

Lebanese mothers have that power too except they verbally squeeze on the vein called "guilt".

 

They're like experts at it.

 

That isn't a Lebanese thing.  That's a thing that all mothers do.  

 

As far as the topic goes, if there was another picture of another lady that wasn't Scribe Girl or Leliana, I'd have a little more hope.  So far it looks like the 6:3 ratio from Origins appears to be making a comeback.  

 

That being said, I wouldn't put it past BW to say, "Surprise!  Here's the other two characters we've kept tightly under wraps and one of them is a lady."  Oh and if the choice offered is Cullen or Cole, I'd say Cullen.  Since more causal fans of the series know who Cullen is, it would make it easier for the DA team to make him into a full fledged companion.  While I'd love to see Cole in the game, he's a little hard to explain and would require much more introduction.  

[thats1evildude]

My mom didn't actually set herself on fire. I'm just making the point that suicide-based parenting is kind of crazypants.

[JeffZero]

I kinda hope most people assume that!

[thats1evildude]

I kinda hope most people assume that!

And yet, we still get people blaming Merrill for Marethari's death.

[GVulture]

Not a major fan of the merrill/aerie/tali archetype. Excited about the rumoured look of Sera and hope she is more worldly.

Not a fan of the virginal/fawning over the PC type in general. Didn't like it with Aerie, eh'd about Juhani's, NOPED about Liara's, roll eyes about Tali's and was basically fed up with it by the time Merrill rolled around.

 

Here is hoping there isn't one in DA:I.

 

Also, hoping for a ban of the generic sex pot and the my wife/son/daughter/husband/dog died I'm heartbroken, FIX ME! type is absent too.

[PinkDiamondstl]

And yet, we still get people blaming Merrill for Marethari's death.

I blame Merrill for a number of things...

[Nayawk]

I didn't have a problem with how Merrill looked, she looked fantastic (put me in the quite like the DA2 elves camp). Her personality on the other hand drove me up the wall.. she now sits in her little hovel for 10 years unloved and alone in all my DA2 play throughs.

[GVulture]

I didn't have a problem with how Merrill looked, she looked fantastic (put me in the quite like the DA2 elves camp). Her personality on the other hand drove me up the wall.. she now sits in her little hovel for 10 years unloved and alone in all my DA2 play throughs.

I have yet to have a Merrill-mance solely because I don't like the nervous types in romances, Alistair being my only exception. It feels skeevy to me. Poor Merrill.

[Tayah]

Bioware's mission statement is: "BioWare's vision is to create, deliver, and evolve the most emotionally engaging games in the world." You can find it on their "About" page on their main website. 

 

While this doesn't actually mention equality several of their staff have spoken about it so I have hope that in this game we will see a 5/4 split. Also people keep throwing around Cole, Cullen and Jazz/crazy hands moustache guy as being the options for the last male but as David Gaider has said on numerous occasions that several pieces of concept art relate to NPCs rather than companions. To me that means both the last two spots are up for grabs and could be complete surprises... which would be nice too. 

[Jigglypuff]

I love characters like Morrigan, Anora and Isabela, they are all complex and have their own ambitions and self-interests.

I hope we get more of that type in the next companion.

[Tayah]

Not a fan of the virginal/fawning over the PC type in general. Didn't like it with Aerie, eh'd about Juhani's, NOPED about Liara's, roll eyes about Tali's and was basically fed up with it by the time Merrill rolled around.

 

Here is hoping there isn't one in DA:I.

 

Also, hoping for a ban of the generic sex pot and the my wife/son/daughter/husband/dog died I'm heartbroken, FIX ME! type is absent too.

 

I love characters like Morrigan, Anora and Isabela, they are all complex and have their own ambitions and self-interests.

I hope we get more of that type in the next companion.

I hope we get new types in our next companions.

[Mirrman70]

Not a fan of the virginal/fawning over the PC type in general. Didn't like it with Aerie, eh'd about Juhani's, NOPED about Liara's, roll eyes about Tali's and was basically fed up with it by the time Merrill rolled around.

 

Here is hoping there isn't one in DA:I.

 

Also, hoping for a ban of the generic sex pot and the my wife/son/daughter/husband/dog died I'm heartbroken, FIX ME! type is absent too.

just out of curiosity what characters do you like?

[Han Shot First]

If the character is an LI I hope she looks more like an adult than Merrill.

 

Merrill's slighly juvenile appearance (and attitude) was a bit disturbing.

[SilkieBantam]

Actually what I'd really love is a Silent Sister companion. I think their order is really fascinating and I would love to see more of them.

[GVulture]

just out of curiosity what characters do you like?

*lemme list my feels* To be clear, this isn't a case of not LIKING a character as it is not liking the romance for them. Love all my Bioware babies to death. I love Thane, I love Carth. I just want something DIFFERENT. After Jaheria, Carth, Sky, Thane, and Cortez I think they're coming close to mining The Dead Loved One style of romance dry. They could always surprise me, and **** it if I don't always fall for it anyways...

 

I LOVE Kaidan, because while he had the tragic past, he didn't need fixing. He was just there for Shepard. Pretty much the only one that really stands out for me. I just kinda get tired of the same trope being used over and over. I hate the blushing virginal type. So I didn't like Liara, Tali, or Ash from Mass Effect. I couldn't get into Merrill either. I think it just stems for viewing this trope as a creeptacular super creep macking on high school girls when they should be dating someone their own age.

 

The disdain for the "sex pot" no matter how well written (Miranda, Isabela, love you girls) it is just it seems like they are always juxtaposed next to the virginal type and it just seems lazy to have the sex kitten and the virgin standing next to each other as your options. I actually kinda love that Dragon Age subverted this by having the sex pot and the virgin be men. Probably why I always have a hard time choosing between Zev and Alistair.

[Grieving Natashina]

I hope we get new types in our next companions.

Elaborate?  What "personality types," would you like to see?  Other than something new?

 

@Han Okay, I have to wonder about Merrill: I agree about the personality, but please tell me that is isn't her small chest that make her physically look young...