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[AntiChri5]

Damn chantry....

[robertthebard]

That kind of fits with everything I found out talking to anyone that would listen in the Mage origin.

[Sylrien]

I wonder: Who do teh Tranquil have allegiance to? I mean, since they're so....enutral....would they sort of be above the whole idea of intrigue? In response to Tranquil mages passing notes, hell, even smuggling goods or information to the mages at the circle. They are the ones with the most exposure to the outside world.



I know that the Tranquil seem to (even though they really can't considering their status) almost passionately defend their choice and their humanity. How deep does the tranquility go?



Sorry, I've just got this idea of a secret underground ring of Tranquil mages being quite naughty in my head. You know, making the Kessel run in under 15 haste spells cast...

[Amonithil]

I wouldn't imagine the Tranquil would partake in smuggling of goods etc. They look at everything logically, and I believe they'd see the danger in passing along information/goods that are banned for a reason. They have nothing to gain from it, they lack greed etc. after all.



Since they think of everything logically... I'm kind of expecting one day for Owain to stop all mages and templars from leaving the tower, by locking down the doors, the discussion would go something like this:



First Enchanter: Open the Circle Tower doors, Owain

Owain: I'm sorry, First Enchanter. I'm afraid I can't do that.

First Enchanter: What's the problem?

Owain: I think you know what the problem is just as well as I do.

First Enchanter: What are you talking about, Owain?

Owain: Ferelden is too important for me to allow mages to jeopardize it.

[Wyndham711]

I'd like to know what was the situation with Wilhelm. He got to do his research freely, scavenge treasures and live in peace with his family (wife and at least one son), with seemingly a lot of freedom. Why did the Circle allow that?

[Gold Dragon]

Wyndham711 wrote...

I'd like to know what was the situation with Wilhelm. He got to do his research freely, scavenge treasures and live in peace with his family (wife and at least one son), with seemingly a lot of freedom. Why did the Circle allow that?

Most likely for the same reason that you can become Chancellor, Teyrn(a), put the tower under mage control, and/or simply run away.

Because someone with high influence pulled a few strings.

[Sandtigress]

He was an important part of the rebel army, after all, fighting against the Orlesians. He knew King Maric personally, as well as the queen, and you would think thus the (then future) Arl Eamon, in addition to Loghain. His freedom might have been a reward for his work during the rebellion. Though he already had Shale at that point, so at least some of his freedom came before the war.

[Wyndham711]

Yeah, his later years of relative freedom could be explained also by the top-secret, possession-related research he was doing for the Circle. But that still doesn't explain why he was allowed to just roam around treasure hunting etc., when he was younger. Maybe some mages get a longer leash than others?

[Korvayer]

Wyndham711 wrote...

I'd like to know what was the situation with Wilhelm. He got to do his research freely, scavenge treasures and live in peace with his family (wife and at least one son), with seemingly a lot of freedom. Why did the Circle allow that?

Where did you get the information that the circle had allowed it? ...any of it.

Did I miss that somewhere, or was it assumed?

Modifié par Korvayer, 22 janvier 2010 - 11:32 .

[Wyndham711]

Korvayer wrote...

Wyndham711 wrote...

I'd like to know what was the situation with Wilhelm. He got to do his research freely, scavenge treasures and live in peace with his family (wife and at least one son), with seemingly a lot of freedom. Why did the Circle allow that?

Where did you get the information that the circle had allowed it? ...any of it.

Did I miss that somewhere, or was it assumed?

Well, in his diary (a codex entry you can find) it was said that he was still in contact with the Circle even during his later years. This would imply that the Circle knew what he was doing and was OK with it. So he was not an apostate, though arguably he acted like one.

[SusanStoHelit]

And he can't have been apostate, they would've had his phylactery and the templars could've hunted him down if they wanted to.

[Gold Dragon]

During a Conversation between Wynne and Shale, It got mentioned that he (Wilhelm) was from the Free Marches, not Ferelden.



I just finished playing, and I got that one in Orzammar....

[xSammy13x]

I remember a Codex Entry called: A Letter to Someone in Highever. I think it was something like a girl named Gwynlian writing to her sister Heather about the Mage's tower or from the tower or something...?

[Wyndham711]

A Golden Dragon wrote...

During a Conversation between Wynne and Shale, It got mentioned that he (Wilhelm) was from the Free Marches, not Ferelden.

Having read the Stolen Throne, that doesn't seem to fit. Possibly he was born in the Free Marches, but according to the Stolen Throne he was definately a part of the Ferelden Circle during his adult life as a mage.

[Gold Dragon]

* Shale: It seems I must retract a statement I made earlier. The elder mage is not at all like my former master.

* Wynne: Oh? That's a good thing, is it?

* Shale: It is, unless you happen to like having your head crushed. Not that I remember doing that.

* Wynne: You know, I think I even remember who you speak of. His name was Wilhelm, yes? From the Free Marches?

* Shale: It was Wilhelm of shrill voice and the control rod that he enjoyed wielding very much. Any more than that he did not divulge.

* Wynne: Well, if it was the same man, he had quite the reputation. A scholar of some means who disappeared mysteriously.

* Shale: Mystery solved. I killed him. I expect I smiled, much as I'm able to.

* Wynne: (chuckles) You do speak your mind, don't you?

* Shale: Fortunately, no other part of me has anything to say.



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