Is Dragon Age: Inquisition going to be a make or break for you?
#226
Posté 08 avril 2014 - 01:37
If I don't like DAI I may not get another Dragon Age game, but I will still keep up and get myself updated with the lore/story. Even if I don't like the gameplay it doesn't mean that I dislike the overall world they set up.....unless they say it's somehow a prequal...or sequal to Mass Effect :-/
#227
Guest_Trojan.Vundo_*
Posté 08 avril 2014 - 02:45
Guest_Trojan.Vundo_*
I think that people hate way too much on DA2. Sure, it had its problems; but there're way worse games out there that are far more liner and dumbed down (C.O.D, FF13.) There is also the issue of some supposedly 'great games' (witcher) being extreamly sexist, and demaning to women. Sure DA does have some minor problems with that too, but they are minor in comparision to others. I would reccomend my friends DA2 over the witcher, and many other games.
So it's not a make or break for me: because I would rather spend the money supporting a more female friendly game, than games like the witcher. I owe it to the younger-female-gamers still growing up, to support games like DA2; and decrease the misoginistic BS that plauges the industry, and makes games like the witcher, socially acceptable.
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#228
Guest_Fandango_*
Posté 08 avril 2014 - 02:00
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#229
Posté 08 avril 2014 - 04:28
I don't trust them enough anymore to pre-order DA: I, I have already given up on the Mass Effect series, and will wait to see the fan reaction before deciding whether to buy DA: I or not, and if it turns out to be like Mass Effect 3, I will never buy another BioWare game again.
#230
Posté 08 avril 2014 - 05:06
To confirm, the incidental fetch quests of DA2 screamed rush job, as did much of the game. That's not to say that they represent the only means by which one can come to that realisation, but then I'm not saying that am I Alan? And if that final question of yours was designed to be some kind of gotcha, I'd invite the good people reading this thread to decide for themselves whether the padding of any bare-bones game with bland, cursory content offers an indication that said game was rushed. Seems obvious to me, but YMMV.
If you want to take issue with any of that, perhaps we should take things to PM?
I'm just confused how adding more of any kind of content can make something more rushed. Wouldn't DA2 without those fetch quests have been even more rushed than the version of DA2 we got? It would have had less content, right?
This is similar to the ME3 debate over squadmates's one-liner reactions to the previous mission. Some kinds of content make some players feel that they're getting less content even when they're getting more, and I'm curious about the thought process.
#231
Posté 08 avril 2014 - 05:57
So it's not a make or break for me: because I would rather spend the money supporting a more female friendly game, than games like the witcher. I owe it to the younger-female-gamers still growing up, to support games like DA2; and decrease the misoginistic BS that plauges the industry, and makes games like the witcher, socially acceptable.
I haven't played Witcher so I can't say anything about it. I want to support more female friendly games too and I think DA games are those kinds of games. There are strong female characters who can be leaders like Warden and Hawke. Aveline is quite strong too. I also think that there isn't that many good games with strong female characters. Well there aren't many movies or TV series either. I also like romances in games but the reason why DA games are so good is that you can choose whether to start a romance or not and usually you have several options to choose your LI from. So by buying games and DLCs I feel that something what I do can have some impact on what kind of games there will be in the future. Because if a game doesn't make a profit then why would the company make more of those games.
#232
Posté 08 avril 2014 - 06:17
#233
Posté 08 avril 2014 - 06:55
If you mean break me like emotionally, then yes. I can already tell.
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#234
Guest_Fandango_*
Posté 08 avril 2014 - 11:11
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I'm just confused how adding more of any kind of content can make something more rushed. Wouldn't DA2 without those fetch quests have been even more rushed than the version of DA2 we got? It would have had less content, right?
This is similar to the ME3 debate over squadmates's one-liner reactions to the previous mission. Some kinds of content make some players feel that they're getting less content even when they're getting more, and I'm curious about the thought process.
Really Alan? Look, I'm not saying that the incidental quests of DA2 made the game 'more rushed', more than I'm saying that they made the game worse by virtue of their being phoned in. Again, it's my view that the perfunctory quest content of DA2 added nothing to the game beyond confirming that it was horribly rushed. What is it you're having trouble understanding here?
#235
Posté 08 avril 2014 - 11:44
will wait to see the fan reaction before deciding whether to buy DA
I will probably not take any reactions, good or bad, to heart until I experience the game for myself. If I had listened to fan reactions of DA2, I would have passed up a really enjoyable game. ![]()
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#236
Posté 08 avril 2014 - 11:48
I will probably not take any reactions, good or bad, to heart until I experience the game for myself. If I had listened to fan reactions of DA2, I would have passed up a really enjoyable game.
Yeah, I'd rather form my own opinions of the game as well
#237
Posté 09 avril 2014 - 04:36
#238
Posté 11 avril 2014 - 03:10
It definitely won't be getting a pre-order from me. I learned my lesson the last time. But I doubt that I'll be disappointed.
I have evidence to back that claim.
#239
Posté 11 avril 2014 - 05:15
I liked DA2. Not as much as I liked Origins, but it was a decent enough game. I certainly don't regret the purchase. And while I was upset about ME3's original ending, I thought it was a very enjoyable game. As for DA:I...it actually might be one of my most anticipated titles at the moment.
#240
Posté 12 avril 2014 - 08:02
No.
I don't really care enough for that honestly.
#241
Posté 12 avril 2014 - 05:46
In the wasteland that is the RPG market, there's not a chance it'll be make or break, from the POV that I'd definitely be willing to try any future products that got good reviews - though if DA:I is bad I won't have any expectations for future games.
Planescape: Torment and Baldur's Gate 2 came out in 1999 and 2000 respectively. In the black hole between that time and the release of Origins, the only good fantasy RPG that came out was Mask of the Betrayer. At this point waiting a decade for another game in the vein of what I like is more the expectation than a surprise.
Though I hope this year with DA:I, Eternity, Witcher 3, Torment, that there will be something memorable and worth re-playing.
#242
Posté 12 avril 2014 - 05:57
In the wasteland that is the RPG market, there's not a chance it'll be make or break, from the POV that I'd definitely be willing to try any future products that got good reviews - though if DA:I is bad I won't have any expectations for future games.
Planescape: Torment and Baldur's Gate 2 came out in 1999 and 2000 respectively. In the black hole between that time and the release of Origins, the only good fantasy RPG that came out was Mask of the Betrayer. At this point waiting a decade for another game in the vein of what I like is more the expectation than a surprise.
Though I hope this year with DA:I, Eternity, Witcher 3, Torment, that there will be something memorable and worth re-playing.
Witcher 3 isn't out until next year
#243
Posté 12 avril 2014 - 06:28
ME3 was make or break for me.
The answer: Break.
DAI is more a question of "Can you win me back?"
Otherwise, I'm backing Pillars of Eternity and Tides of Numenera.
#244
Posté 13 avril 2014 - 01:08
No. I will buy DA:I. I'm pretty much sure of that. I'm too curious of the game and too curious of how Bioware will try to handle the situation they have put themselves in. And don't misunderstand one thing: - I'm rooting for DA:I. I hope it'll be a big success.
But no. The break has occured. Exactly when, I don't know. But I see Bioware as something completely different these days. I certainly no longer look on them as a group of people who can or want to develop my kind of games. I kinda also perceive Bioware as silently hostile against me and my ilk, because we're from their old customers, who don't want the kind of games they now want to do. "Go away and be quiet. Leave us in peace and let us pick up new customers". Like it's all our fault. That's the kind of vibes I get. Not that I don't totally sympathize with their situation. I do. It must often have been dreadful and a bad experience. Not at all what they signed up for when becoming game developers, and throwing in all their hard work, time and creativity.
#245
Posté 13 avril 2014 - 02:41
If you mean break me like emotionally, then yes. I can already tell.
Well, it certainly can't break anyone physically. I mean, it's a video game!
#246
Posté 13 avril 2014 - 07:06
At this point, most of the marketing for Inquisition is telling me exactly what I want to hear, and I want to be as unspoiled as possible on major plot choices while playing the game, so I might actually go ahead and preorder.
That being said, I completely sympathize with people that are wary of preordering any games, and particularly Bioware games because of all of the recent screw-ups. I have it a lot easier than most--although I definitely agree that DAII was *very* flawed, I still loved playing the gaem because I love the world and the characters, so I greatly enjoyed the game despite how obviously rushed it was (although I'm glad that at the time I played it because my brother bought it, and not me--when I did eventually buy the game myself for PC I got it for something like $5-10 on sale, so it's hard to have buyer's remorse since I like the game AND it cost me about what I'd pay to get some lunch). TOR didn't matter much to me--it was disappointing, because I had been interested in it, but TBH I don't really like MMORPGs anyway so it wasn't a huge loss for me.
But ME3? Eerrgghh. I enjoyed it for the most part (and I think they really got leveling/skill points just right in that game, at least for my taste), but I was one of the people that REALLY hated the ending. And believe me, I wanted to like it, but the actual ending and the fallout afterward left a really bitter taste in my mouth. Honestly, the main thing saving Bioware for me is that I love Dragon Age as a series and even liked Dragon Age II despite its flaws. Mass Effect as a series is sort of dead to me, at least right now. Like, I'm sure I'll follow news for the next game once it starts to come out, but I'm really not all that interested in the world anymore. I feel a little silly saying that, since I did at least enjoy most of the rest of the game--but I think the original ending really screwed up everything I really enjoyed about the setting of ME and made me feel like any possible continuation would no longer have the elements I really loved about the setting. (It probably doesn't help that, unlike DAII, I DID preorder Mass Effect 3, since at the time my brother was too broke to get it and I was excited.)
So no, my trust in Bioware isn't quite broken yet--or, rather, my trust in the Dragon Age team isn't broken. That being said, if (God forbid) Inquisition turned out to be a mess, I don't think I'd ever preorder a game from BW again, and I'd probably be less hyped over any upcoming titles in general.
#247
Posté 13 avril 2014 - 02:47
No. I will buy DA:I. I'm pretty much sure of that. I'm too curious of the game and too curious of how Bioware will try to handle the situation they have put themselves in. And don't misunderstand one thing: - I'm rooting for DA:I. I hope it'll be a big success.
But no. The break has occured. Exactly when, I don't know. But I see Bioware as something completely different these days. I certainly no longer look on them as a group of people who can or want to develop my kind of games. I kinda also perceive Bioware as silently hostile against me and my ilk, because we're from their old customers, who don't want the kind of games they now want to do. "Go away and be quiet. Leave us in peace and let us pick up new customers". Like it's all our fault. That's the kind of vibes I get. Not that I don't totally sympathize with their situation. I do. It must often have been dreadful and a bad experience. Not at all what they signed up for when becoming game developers, and throwing in all their hard work, time and creativity.
Yeah I don't know about the hostility but I definitely agree that I no longer feel like part of of Bioware's target audience which wasn't the case for many years. I don't blame them for wanting to try new things or wanting to make more money, I just wish there was a developer out there for whom I was still the target audience. Obsidian is fine but they've never developed the same quality of games as Bioware used to, or that they used to as Black Isle.
#248
Posté 13 avril 2014 - 03:38
#249
Posté 13 avril 2014 - 04:08
I still enjoy Bioware's character driven style. For example, while I enjoy Skyrim and it's open world, the Bethesda games just don't develop the close relationships with my companions or other NPCs that Bioware seems to deliver so well.
Bioware's focus on keeping their own lore / continuity in check does worry me though , and hope that can be of highest priority going ahead.
#250
Posté 13 avril 2014 - 04:32





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