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Is Dragon Age: Inquisition going to be a make or break for you?


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#51
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If\when Dragon Age I ends up being a great game, Dragon Age 4 will get feedback and expectations based on that game.

Actually more likely what happens with ME4. Which will be coming out closer to any DA4. Lets hope they learned a lot with ME3 and that does not cause problems for DA4. Like ME3 causes problems for DAI



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tbh I don't think people are deciding whether or not to buy DA:I on ME3, they are basing it on DA2, I think everyone understands that while both games are from Bioware two different divisions worked on each of them. When ME3 shipped it sold off the back of ME2 not DA2, if it was off the back of DA2 no one would have bought ME3, well very few.



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The lesson in the ME series is this. Don`t switch genre in the middle of a series. Turning and rpg into call of duty in space, was a bad move.



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Actually more likely what happens with ME4. Which will be coming out closer to any DA4. Lets hope they learned a lot with ME3 and that does not cause problems for DA4. Like ME3 causes problems for DAI

They might both be under Bioware but they are made by different teams altogether

 

So you shouldn't base whether you'll get DA : I on how ME 3 went but how much you enjoyed DA II and Origins, same for ME 4 you shouldn't base it on how well DA : I goes either. Different teams, different ideals 

 

obviously both teams will learn from each other for the better


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I'm going to pre-order, I just want them to tell us the date it's actually coming out and what comes with the collectors edition. ^_^ I think Bioware has put a TON of time and effort into this game and that they're going to make it the best they can. It looks amazing so far and I can't wait to play it  :D


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I am not worried in the least about this game. There is no reason to believe Bioware has learned nothing from the insane, and frankly undeserved, backlash of past games. I think people completely overreacted about especially ME 3's ending. In my opinion today's gamers expect a bit too much. We hear more and more about a game before release than ever and more people voice their opinions on what should be included in a game which is usually pretty much anything gamers can think of, without ever thinking about the feasibility of their pipe dreams.

 

I enjoyed DA 2 for what it was. I postponed buying it after the serious amount of complaining about the demo. I do agree that the game was on the light side when I finally did get it, but due to the short development time I understand why.

 

I enjoyed ME 3 as well. I don't care about the ending, it didn't change my opinion about the game one bit. Heck, I though the ending of ME 3 was at least better than that of ME 2; reaper terminator, ugh.

 

I also enjoyed SWTOR for what it was. It wasn't a great MMO but I think no MMO is even remotely great. Most MMOs have gotten way too linear which in turn makes replaying not worth it. I did like the stories for the most part which were better than that of most MMOs I have played, although that isn't saying much.

 

Anyway, I don't have a doubt in my mind I will DAI. I doubt Bioware hasn't "learned" anything. Even a past survey of theirs showed me they are in fact listening. But even then I expect lots of today's gamers to once again be up in arms about the end result of this game mainly because that pretty much happens with any game nowadays with expectancies which can't ever be met. So instead of making a particular game a make or break I think it is better to not expect everything one can think of, no game company will ever make the ultimate game.


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The lesson in the ME series is this. Don`t switch genre in the middle of a series. Turning and rpg into call of duty in space, was a bad move.

 

Except it wasn't? ME2 just had a better camera angle and more solid shooting mechanics. The problem with the "switch" was the removal of elements, and ME3 added those back. There's very little wrong with ME2 and ME3 as games, just with the writing.


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Seriously, I am not sure why people pre order games.  I mean, what's the rush?  If you pre order a game and feel burned because you don't like it, shame on you.  I always wait for the dust to settle.  I just got Assassin's Creed Black Flag on PC for $9.  And, it has been patched to 1.04.  I always wait for the kinks to be ironed out and get a general vibe of a game.  Most pre order bonuses are garbage, anyway.

 

The only reason publishers are pushing for pre orders are because they want to avoid poor reviews hurting sales post release.  Nobody gets that much of  free pass from me!

 

That being said, I did support Pillars of Eternity and Wasteland 2 Kickstarters, so, I sort of pre ordered?  But that is a bit different.



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Except it wasn't? ME2 just had a better camera angle and more solid shooting mechanics. The problem with the "switch" was the removal of elements, and ME3 added those back. There's very little wrong with ME2 and ME3 as games, just with the writing.

 

A steep increase in cutscenes, where the game takes over your character completely. Doing that means it is not an rpg anymore, because they player has no control over what his own character actualy says.

 

Removal of armours and equipment was a bad move too. Seeing jack walking around in a zero oxygen (and most likely ict cold area), wearing nothing but some tiny breathing apparatus, killed immersion

ME2 and 3 got dumbed down more and more. Sure, they were entertaining enough, but they didn`t resemble ME1 in the slightest. Completely different type of game. Just had the same logo.

 

Skills were removed as well. Instead we got to mess with the ammo, through space magic, instead. The ammo suddeny did fire damage etc, just because I chose to make it so. It was so overly simplified, and it made zero sense.


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Seriously, I am not sure why people pre order games.  I mean, what's the rush?  If you pre order a game and feel burned because you don't like it, shame on you.  I always wait for the dust to settle.  I just got Assassin's Creed Black Flag on PC for $9.  And, it has been patched to 1.04.  I always wait for the kinks to be ironed out and get a general vibe of a game.  Most pre order bonuses are garbage, anyway.

 

The only reason publishers are pushing for pre orders are because they want to avoid poor reviews hurting sales post release.  Nobody gets that much of  free pass from me!

 

That being said, I did support Pillars of Eternity and Wasteland 2 Kickstarters, so, I sort of pre ordered?  But that is a bit different.

I preorder solely to make paying for the game easier on myself and because I am impatient. It is much easier to pay $60 over a period of a few months then to pay it all at once and I find myself caring very little for the majority of game releases, yet easily bored. I want new games but I am extremely picky over what I will play. For me DA3 is a safe bet as I am 80% likely to love it as I have loved all of the previous Bioware titles I have played.



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I prefer to pre-order then I know that money is gone and secured, so I don't accidentally spend it elsewhere and be unable to buy the game. 



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Seriously, I am not sure why people pre order games.  I mean, what's the rush?  If you pre order a game and feel burned because you don't like it, shame on you.  I always wait for the dust to settle.  I just got Assassin's Creed Black Flag on PC for $9.  And, it has been patched to 1.04.  I always wait for the kinks to be ironed out and get a general vibe of a game.  Most pre order bonuses are garbage, anyway.

 

Let me put it to you this way: on the release day of Dragon Age: Inquisition, I will be outside my game store before nine o'clock, with a coffee in one hand a Danish in the other, waiting for them to roll up the metal curtain so I can MAKE THEM GIVE ME MY GAME. I have no intention whatsoever of waiting for reviews or reactions from other players. In fact, I'll be avoiding those until I've played the game myself and formed my own opinions. Given that, what exactly do I lose by pre-ordering? I might actually gain a few minutes of play time by paying in advance and saving time on the day.

 

The only other games I've pre-ordered have been ones I know I'm going to be playing on release day - that is, the previous two Dragon Age titles. (I've also kickstarted a few, but that's s a bit different to a standard pre-order.)  Almost every other game I've ever bought - and looking at my lifetime combination of 'played' and 'backlog' we're talking a couple of hundred titles - has been bought on sale. For Dragon Age, I make an exception.


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The very concept of judging a game based on its predecessor (or any previous game of a company) and not by its own merits is beyond me.

I disagree. I buy phones, cars, food and clothing based on past experiences. I do this with games as well. 

 

Especially if many of the same people are involved with the sequel. I happen to >like< BioWare games because of it's previous titles.

 

Despite BioWare's past mistakes I'll give them another shot. Because I have seen them at their best and know what they are capable of :)



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Let me put it to you this way: on the release day of Dragon Age: Inquisition, I will be outside my game store before nine o'clock, with a coffee in one hand a Danish in the other, waiting for them to roll up the metal curtain so I can MAKE THEM GIVE ME MY GAME. I have no intention whatsoever of waiting for reviews or reactions from other players. In fact, I'll be avoiding those until I've played the game myself and formed my own opinions. Given that, what exactly do I lose by pre-ordering? I might actually gain a few minutes of play time by paying in advance and saving time on the day.

 

The only other games I've pre-ordered have been ones I know I'm going to be playing on release day - that is, the previous two Dragon Age titles. (I've also kickstarted a few, but that's s a bit different to a standard pre-order.)  Almost every other game I've ever bought - and looking at my lifetime combination of 'played' and 'backlog' we're talking a couple of hundred titles - has been bought on sale. For Dragon Age, I make an exception.

9 am? You're willing to wait 9 hours? I'll be there at midnight if they do a midnight release. :)



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9 am? You're willing to wait 9 hours? I'll be there at midnight if they do a midnight release. :)

 

No game stores near me have done midnight releases for previous DA titles :( . If there's one in Melbourne this time, I'll be there!

 

Sometimes I think about getting the game on Origin instead, which would mean I could start at midnight. But what if the Collector's Edition has a cool box or a map or some other thing I need?!



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I haven't really decided If I want to own a digital or disc copy, my shelf is kind of full T____T



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I'll ultimately wait til what fans and some trusted friends think of the game. So far I have been impressed about what I've seen, but considering my current state I am living in and BW continious disappointments recently, I will await before I make my decision.

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ME3's endings have nothing to do with my love of Dragon Age so... I may or may not pre-order the game, depending if I have enough space on my PS3 or if I purchase a PS4. Right now, I can't confirm anything.



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I will pre-order the game as soon as it becomes available. :D :)



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Well ME3 is my favorite BioWare game despite the ending, at least I know DAI will not be worse than DA2.



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Nope.  Bioware hasn't made a bad game, imo. 

 

Zero worries.  Next to Bethesda, my favorite developer out there.



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I recently came to the conscious realization that all five of BioWare's most recent single-player offerings appear at various points on my Top 25 games list. So no, needless to say it won't be.

Apparently they'll keep making games for me at the expense of kicking everyone else to the curb. >_>
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DA2 is a rushed mess but ME3 is a great game and SWTOR is a perfectly fine WoW clone (probably the one that I enjoyed the most).

 

I don't know what you're talking about.

 

 

more solid shooting mechanics

 

So... Call of Duty in space.



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Nope. I wasn't enamoured of the ME3 ending, but I loved the hell out of the rest of the game; and while I can see that a fair amount of DA2 is a bit of a mess, it's a mess that I enjoy quite a lot - plus in Aveline and Varric it game me two of my favourite videogame characters (a list that is occupied by a number of Bioware characters, as it goes).

 

Also, as others have said, Bio occupies a bit of a niche. Party-based gameplay with well fleshed out companions, pause and play combat, decent customisation, a middle ground between complete freedom and total linearity, and good visuals and cinematics. Games that tick all those boxes don't come along often enough (yes, I'm looking forward to PoE!). I may well pre-order online since it's free to do so and more convenient for me than travelling several miles to a gameshop. Depending on what we see before pre-ordering becomes available (and I think it's looking very nice so far), I might end up with a CE.

 

I don't really have a 'dealbreaker' mindset with any company. Many developers have made games I enjoyed followed by games I didn't, and then gone on to make something else I liked, with Bio having overall a better record than most in this regard. So I tend to take each game as it comes.



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I don't really feel like the massive amount of complaints were that warranted. I didn't love the ending choices for ME3 and I was pretty annoyed at how many times DA2 recycled maps, but I still enjoyed them, for the most part. Everybody has different priorities, though, I guess.