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Is Dragon Age: Inquisition going to be a make or break for you?

Débuté par Ridwan , mars 30 2014 12:00

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Posté 30 mars 2014 - 06:24

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Removal of armours and equipment was a bad move too. Seeing jack walking around in a zero oxygen (and most likely ict cold area), wearing nothing but some tiny breathing apparatus, killed immersion

ME2 and 3 got dumbed down more and more. Sure, they were entertaining enough, but they didn`t resemble ME1 in the slightest. Completely different type of game. Just had the same logo.

 

Skills were removed as well. Instead we got to mess with the ammo, through space magic, instead. The ammo suddeny did fire damage etc, just because I chose to make it so. It was so overly simplified, and it made zero sense.

 

Removal of armours and equipment was not a bad move. ME1's inventory system was terrible, I spent so much time comparing one type of random add-on to another, ugh! and the interface made that difficult to do.  And it added an esthetic value to the characters, which was nice.

 

The streamlining of the inventory system was a great idea. Too many people give RPGs with an over complicated inventory and menu system a free ride because they're "old school". 

 

I also don't agree that skills were removed, they grew with the player. So rather than putting lots of points into 'lift' and just making it a bit stronger, you could get it do do different things, like lift more than one person or increase the damage a person affected by 'lift' would take. Much better than putting a points into 'lift' and not seeing the benefit until you'd reached an arbitrarly point like in ME1

 

As for the ammo effects, I always just thought they represented an add-on that Shepard or a Squadmate had on their weapon. The animation is them turning something on their gun on or off, no space magic needed.


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Posté 30 mars 2014 - 06:25

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OP, if you're so disillusioned with Bioware, and apparently game devs in general, why don't you just find another hobby? Seems like kind of a waste of your time to continue posting "Down with Bioware grrr, amirit, who's with me?" threads. But whatever... it's your time.
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#78
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Posté 30 mars 2014 - 06:35

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Yeah, if DA:I is as disappointing as ME3(and yes I mean the WHOLE game not the ending) or DA2 then it will be time to move on. I don't see how that's possible though since they added race options back in, there wont be copy/paste dungeons, and I am super skeptical and with low expectations. After DA2/ME3, there's nowhere to go but up IMO.


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Posté 30 mars 2014 - 06:50

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Aye, mark me down as another who hopes that Inquisition represents a return to form for Bioware (if they end up laying another egg in the manner of DA2, I cant imagine I'll be buying another Dragon Age game anytime soon). Thankfully, what little I've seen and heard about the game looks and sounds terrific. Fingers firmly crossed!


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Posté 30 mars 2014 - 06:54

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I'll likely pre-order it. I've enjoyed the DA titles so far and I know it's heresy, but I prefer DA2 to DAO and like everything I've seen so far on DAI. If it suddenly looks awful, there's nothing stopping me from cancelling it and I did that recently with another game (not from Bioware) that shall remain nameless. Even with the issues I have with DA2, SWTOR and ME3; Bioware still puts out some of my favourite games. In fact, ME3's endings wouldn't bother me if it or the earlier games had been average. It's because ME3 was so close to perfect that that really, really, really stung. At the moment they still have the benefit of the doubt with me, but another game with issues like those three had and of course that'll go.


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Posté 30 mars 2014 - 07:00

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9 am? You're willing to wait 9 hours? I'll be there at midnight if they do a midnight release. :)

 

lol, that's how I feel too!  Those would be 9 restless hours, thinking about all the people already playing >.<  That's not so embarrassing to admit considering we're all here obsessing over DA:I 6+ months before its release.  I used to love working midnight releases because the people who show up are so cool and generally fun to talk to.  Customers would get so excited when we handed out free t-shirts and stuff.  I miss that!


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Posté 30 mars 2014 - 07:04

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The very concept of judging a game based on its predecessor (or any previous game of a company) and not by its own merits is beyond me.

Pretty much this.


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Posté 30 mars 2014 - 07:13

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Removal of armours and equipment was a bad move too. Seeing jack walking around in a zero oxygen (and most likely ict cold area), wearing nothing but some tiny breathing apparatus, killed immersion.


You're muddling up two unrelated issues there, you know. Player control over equipment to put on Jack wouldn't guarantee that she had a full spacesuit, and lack of player control wouldn't prevent Bio from giving her one.


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Posté 30 mars 2014 - 07:40

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Definitely not a make or break for me. I've played NWN, NWN2, DA:O and DA:2, with all expansions and DLCs, save NWN2. Even though I personally didn't care for NWN2, that doesn't mean it wasn't a good, even great, game as I recall, and I still would have followed and purchased NWN3, if they had made one. I believe each game should be judged on their own merit. That's why I absolutely adored DA:2, more than Origins even. There's no reason for me to not be excited for DA:I. 

 

Dragon Age came out while I was in an almost 4 year gaming hiatus. I didn't even look at the games until last Fall, and I was able to purchase DA:Origins Ultimate Edition, DA:2 with the Black Emporium, and the Mass Effect Trilogy, all for $19.18. So yeah, while it definitely pays to wait, I will be happily preordering DA:I. I'm off my hiatus and I want to support Bioware by paying full price, and paying it as early as possible. I also just really, really, really want to play it, and am not willing to wait years to do so!


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Posté 30 mars 2014 - 07:49

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You're muddling up two unrelated issues there, you know. Player control over equipment to put on Jack wouldn't guarantee that she had a full spacesuit, and lack of player control wouldn't prevent Bio from giving her one.

 

 

We could do that in the first game. Make the player and the companions have their visor down and stuff like that. It only worked if we had equipped an armour on the character, though.


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Posté 30 mars 2014 - 08:20

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You're muddling up two unrelated issues there, you know. Player control over equipment to put on Jack wouldn't guarantee that she had a full spacesuit, and lack of player control wouldn't prevent Bio from giving her one.

 

 

We could do that in the first game. Make the player and the companions have their visor down and stuff like that. It only worked if we had equipped an armour on the character, though.

 

In the first game everyone was forced to wear a spacesuit - so apart from the colour there was not much esthetic difference. ME1 style player control over what Jack wore would not guarantee that one of the things she could wear was a space suit.

 

And the only thing that could be changed about a esthetics of a particular armour set in ME1 was whether or not they wore the helmet. 

 

I much prefer when companions have their own esthetic style.

 

I'm looking forward to seeing how it works in DA:I Apparently characters still maintain their own style but that each one has a number of different armour sets to choose from.


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Posté 30 mars 2014 - 08:21

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Looks like it will be reat in DA:I, yes. Didn`t one of the devs say that a key-word was Customiation?


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Posté 30 mars 2014 - 08:44

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@OP

 

Not at all. DA2 pales in comparison to Origins, but it's still a good game. ME3 was also, underwhelming ending aside, a phenomenal experience. Overall I still view BioWare positively. Yes, they've made mistakes, but they seem to learn from and try to improve upon them.


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Posté 30 mars 2014 - 08:45

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 Yes, they've made mistakes, but they seem to learn from and try to improve upon them.

Like any good game developer should :)


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Posté 30 mars 2014 - 08:46

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I'm part of an incredibly niche market, and although for the most part I don't like the direction Bioware is taking, they are still the only ones that will make tactical RPGs like Dragon Age. So if I don't like DA:I I am very likely to whine a lot but Bioware is the only dealer on the block and I need to get my fix.

 

You should check out Fire Emblem.

And I don't trust anything EA makes, nor anything most others make. Pre-ordering is just shooting yourself in the foot, it's buying a cat in a bag, spending money on a word that may be a lie or misinterpreted.


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Posté 30 mars 2014 - 08:48

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You should check out Fire Emblem.

 

While I typically agree with that statement ( <3 Fire Emblem) I'm not sure that it's "like" Dragon Age. 


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Posté 30 mars 2014 - 08:53

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Like any good game developer should :)

 

Yup, can't ask for much more.  :)


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Posté 30 mars 2014 - 08:56

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Is Dragon Age: Inquisition going to be a make or break for you?


No.
 

Still trust Bioware enough to pre-order or will you be putting on your sceptic hat and hold your money until you're satisfied with enough information to justify a purchase?


I'll pre-order the CE if I can afford it.

Pre-ordering is just shooting yourself in the foot...


I've never been unhappy with pre-ordering something. Pre-ordering is shooting yourself in the foot if you're bad at evaluating a product and understanding whether you value it enough to pre-order it. This is a skill, like many others.
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Posté 30 mars 2014 - 09:15

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I am not worried in the least about this game. There is no reason to believe Bioware has learned nothing from the insane, and frankly undeserved, backlash of past games. I think people completely overreacted about especially ME 3's ending. In my opinion today's gamers expect a bit too much. We hear more and more about a game before release than ever and more people voice their opinions on what should be included in a game which is usually pretty much anything gamers can think of, without ever thinking about the feasibility of their pipe dreams.

 

I enjoyed DA 2 for what it was. I postponed buying it after the serious amount of complaining about the demo. I do agree that the game was on the light side when I finally did get it, but due to the short development time I understand why.

 

I enjoyed ME 3 as well. I don't care about the ending, it didn't change my opinion about the game one bit. Heck, I though the ending of ME 3 was at least better than that of ME 2; reaper terminator, ugh.

 

I also enjoyed SWTOR for what it was. It wasn't a great MMO but I think no MMO is even remotely great. Most MMOs have gotten way too linear which in turn makes replaying not worth it. I did like the stories for the most part which were better than that of most MMOs I have played, although that isn't saying much.

 

Anyway, I don't have a doubt in my mind I will DAI. I doubt Bioware hasn't "learned" anything. Even a past survey of theirs showed me they are in fact listening. But even then I expect lots of today's gamers to once again be up in arms about the end result of this game mainly because that pretty much happens with any game nowadays with expectancies which can't ever be met. So instead of making a particular game a make or break I think it is better to not expect everything one can think of, no game company will ever make the ultimate game.

People reacted just enough. A lot of people were disappointed by ME3's ending and they have the right to praise or criticise an element of the game whether their opinion matches up with yours or not. Any abuse that was going around at that time on the forum however was unacceptable and unlike the genuine criticism shouldn't have happened. DA II suffered from a short development time and ME2 at least had an ending that wrapped up the main storyline while still leaving the door open for the events of ME3.

 

ME3's ending just left its storylines hanging and a lot of people expected something more along the lines of the Extended Cut DLC. Not a fancy medal ceremony or anything like that but an understandable conclusion to the story.


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Posté 30 mars 2014 - 09:28

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I don't think I'd be on here if I was that close to renouncing my fan-ship.  DA2 was still fun, but quite underwhelming.  ME3 was their best game, aside from the ending.  I'll keep playing the DA games.


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Posté 30 mars 2014 - 10:40

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What about you folks? Still trust Bioware enough to pre-order or will you be putting on your sceptic hat and hold your money until you're satisfied with enough information to justify a purchase?

 

Sceptic hat. Even if DA2 had been really good, I think its DRM would have prompted the hat anyway. No point doing a pre-order if you can't play the damn game because of badly-programmed security.


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Posté 30 mars 2014 - 11:01

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I don't think I'll ever NOT be a fan of Bioware. Even if by some miracle DAI ends up being downright awful, I will still be a huge fan of the company. The DA games have been exactly what I've always craved, and the ME series ruined my life (in a good way if you know what I mean :P ) for months. I get some people have been continuously disappointed as of late, but it's been the opposite for me.

 

There's no one else like Bioware out there, and no other RPGs quite to this standard. For me. :)


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Posté 30 mars 2014 - 11:01

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Double post sorry


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Posté 30 mars 2014 - 11:02

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I don't think I'll ever NOT be a fan of Bioware. Even if by some miracle DAI ends up being downright awful, I will still be a huge fan of the company. The DA games have been exactly what I've always craved, and the ME series ruined my life (in a good way if you know what I mean :P ) for months. I get some people have been continuously disappointed as of late, but it's been the opposite for me.

 

There's no one else like Bioware out there, and no other RPGs quite to this standard. For me. :)

:D love this statement

 

p.s. you may want to sort out your double posting :P


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Posté 30 mars 2014 - 11:10

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:D love this statement

 

p.s. you may want to sort out your double posting :P

 

Yeah sorry haha must have been too eager with the "post" button. No way to delete, eh?


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