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[Anacronian Stryx]

I think a TV-series would be better, It's the only way you would have enough time to show of the many aspects of the Mass Effect universe.

[v0rt3x22]

A Mass Effect movie would only be good - in my opinion - if it were in 3D a la Final Fantasy.



Because then you'd have the same characters, the same look, the same feeling.....hell Bioware could create the movie themselves.

[Sialboats]

Battlestar Normandy.


'nuff said. If they could do a film/TV series with the same darkness and "realism" that BSG had, I'd dance in circles.

Modifié par Sialboats, 22 janvier 2010 - 12:29 .

[golak]

v0rt3x22 wrote...

A Mass Effect movie would only be good - in my opinion - if it were in 3D a la Final Fantasy.

Because then you'd have the same characters, the same look, the same feeling.....hell Bioware could create the movie themselves.

i agree to this els it whould just be anohter "wing commander" movie that u only wanna see ones

Modifié par golak, 01 février 2010 - 04:16 .

[HAGA NAGA]

ugh. please no. never.

the only people that could potentially be happy with the movie are those that know nothing about Mass Effect going into it.

[Lightice_av]

It can only work if it doesn't take an interactive plot of the game, and turn it static. The best way to get the fanbase to hate it would be to make a "canon" Shepard and forget about the customizability that made the games great.



I would really prefer a TV series, but if I was in charge of the movie, I would make the main character Lieutnant Anderson, and make it about the First Contact War. It's like made to be a movie plot - humanity comes to the brink of disaster for a misunderstanding, but manages to work around it with outside help. The turians work great as frightening space monsters who end up having more depth to them than meets the eye.

[Avissel]

If you rush, it takes about what....20ish hours to beat the game? Now reduce that down to a 2 hour, more like 1 hour 30 minute, movie run time.



It would be awful.

[Timex1]

They better never make one about Shepard because the games are a movie in themselves, even better.



I would like to see one about a different timeline in Mass Effect.

[sinosleep]

You guys are being WAY too harsh on the movie industry.



The reason video game movies suck is because the people attached to them are horrible film makers, horrible screen writers, and horrible actors. Of course your movie is going to turn out to be trash when you've got that going on. It's not an issue of transferring it from one format to another, and it's certainly not an issue of length.



The same thing was said about comic book movies until a few years ago. And then TALENTED people actually started working on them. They managed to attract guys like Christian Bale, Christopher Nolan, Sam Raimi, and Robert Downey Jr. and all of a sudden the comic book film became one of the most popular and profitable genres.



And don't even get me started on books. Mystic River and Gone Baby Gone were spectacular books, far longer than the scripts that were used to turn them into films and yet Mystic River and Gone Baby Gone were both easily two of the best movies to be released in the years they were released. Why? Because they had talented people like Clint Eastwood, Kevin Bacon, Casey Afleck, and Sean Penn involved.



Also, while game may take 50 hours to complete, that does not mean the game contains 50 hours of narrative. In that time frame you're including loads of side missions that usually add little to nothing, action sequences FAR longer than anything that's going to be in a move that, again, add nothing to the narrative, and other factors that add to the time played that in no way shape or form add to the lore or narrative of the game. In reality, a 50 hour playthrough has at absolute best, 10 hours of narrative that actually kind of matters.

[vadril]

ME2 is indeed a digital movie now. I actually find the story and sequence of events reminds me of the newest Star Trek movie.



Personal character development, work out character issues as you handle a couple dangerous enemy encounters, get the bad guys....Very fast pace and enjoyable experience in both cases. In any case, a move or series would be redundant to the game as it stands today.

[Fris13]

If Uwe Boll has anything to do with the movie -- NO! Dear god no! Just . . . no.



Anyone else -- Yes

[Lightice_av]

The reason video game movies suck is because the people attached to them are horrible film makers, horrible screen writers, and horrible actors.

Those are not the only reasons - not all video game movies have had horrible directors or actors, but have been rather lacklustre anyway. It's also because turning an interactive experience into a static one just doesn't work - people miss the ability to participate, and the previously compelling story falls apart. That and only recently there have been video games that have been able to compete with even the simplest of movies storywise.

Not to mention that you've already experienced the plot much more thoroughly than you can by watching a movie. Hence, it doesn't draw you in, any more.



That's why the only way a Mass Effect movie can be any good is by telling an entirely different story with a different cast, simply set in the same world.

[Jeremy Shepherd]

No.

[Timex1]

sinosleep wrote...


And don't even get me started on books. Mystic River and Gone Baby Gone were spectacular books, far longer than the scripts that were used to turn them into films and yet Mystic River and Gone Baby Gone were both easily two of the best movies to be released in the years they were released. Why? Because they had talented people like Clint Eastwood, Kevin Bacon, Casey Afleck, and Sean Penn involved.

I agree, a lot of movies that have come from books have turned out really well. And I also agree with your comments about Mystic River and Gone Baby Gone. My favorite book to movie is Fight Club. They did a really good job sticking to the book, almost word for word. Besides the fact they changed the ending. Edward, Brad, Hellan, and the whole cast did an amazing job in it. It brought the book to life for me.

[sinosleep]

Lightice_av wrote...

Those are not the only reasons - not all video game movies have had horrible directors or actors, but have been rather lacklustre anyway. It's also because turning an interactive experience into a static one just doesn't work - people miss the ability to participate, and the previously compelling story falls apart. That and only recently there have been video games that have been able to compete with even the simplest of movies storywise.
Not to mention that you've already experienced the plot much more thoroughly than you can by watching a movie. Hence, it doesn't draw you in, any more.

That's why the only way a Mass Effect movie can be any good is by telling an entirely different story with a different cast, simply set in the same world.

Name 5. Seriously, the only movie video game movie I can think of that had any semblence of talent attached to it was Max Payne, and while Mark Whalberg has been a pretty damned good supporting actor in some pretty damned good movies (The Departed) he's never been headline material. Not only that, but he's just one guy. Sir Ben Kingsley must have been behind on the rent when he took a part in Blood Rayne, but even though he's a supremely gifted actor he phoned his perormance in and everything else about the movie was garbage so the movie wound up being garbage.

Modifié par sinosleep, 01 février 2010 - 06:01 .

[Irensesvox]

I'd much rather see Mass Effect done as a miniseries. Gives them way more time to flesh out characters and develop the universe. Maybe even get Joss Whedon to direct, that'd make for a sick show.

[Lightice_av]

Name 5. Seriously, the only movie video game movie I can think of that had any semblence of talent attached to it was Max Payne, and while Mark Whalberg has been a pretty damned good supporting actor in some pretty damned good movies (The Departed) he's never been headline material.

Haven't seen that many game movies in the first place, but the old Super Mario Bros. film actually had Bob Hoskins as the lead! If he's not A-grade talent, I don't know what is. Ofcourse the directors (plural) sucked. Silent Hill had Sean Bean in it. There are others certainly; sometimes good actors have even been in crappy video games - look at John Rhys-Davies' career some time, for example.



But as I said, even if you had top line actors and director, you still couldn't turn an interactive experience into a static one without suffering in quality. You need to make something new in order to get good results.

[knight5923]

I don't think it's in production or anything. I heard that Bioware had been approached by a couple of studios who were interested in it, but I don't think it's actually been moved forward in any way.



First, i don't think it would work. You couldn't get the same level of attachment with a movie, I don't think. Second, if they were to even try, they should wait until after ME3, so that if the movie is a huge success, they can use that steam to continue that game series.

[sinosleep]

Lightice_av wrote...

Haven't seen that many game movies in the first place, but the old Super Mario Bros. film actually had Bob Hoskins as the lead! If he's not A-grade talent, I don't know what is. Ofcourse the directors (plural) sucked. Silent Hill had Sean Bean in it. There are others certainly; sometimes good actors have even been in crappy video games - look at John Rhys-Davies' career some time, for example.

But as I said, even if you had top line actors and director, you still couldn't turn an interactive experience into a static one without suffering in quality. You need to make something new in order to get good results.

I disagree. People have said the same kind of things about books and movies (not interactivity but a more detailed narrative) and yet there have been hundreds of spectacular movies based on books. And dozens of good flicks based on comics. I think if the cast and director is solid you can turn practically anything into a movie and it'll turn out ok.

Modifié par sinosleep, 01 février 2010 - 06:13 .

[Timex1]

I have to agree with sinosleep on this one. A movie is only good if done right and you need the people to do it. It can be done but the problem with most movies is the backing of the people they hire. You want a good movie hire people who will do it right.

[Lightice_av]

I disagree. People have said the same kind of things about books and movies (not interactivity but a more detailed narrative) and yet there have been hundreds of spectacular movies based on books. And dozens of good flicks based on comics. I think if the cast and director is solid you can turn practically anything into a movie and it'll turn out ok.

Neither books nor comics match video games as a narrative. Both are static mediums that can be converted into another static medium without significant trouble. The same does not apply to video games, which are an interactive medium. If you slavishly follow a video game's plot in turning it into a movie script, it will fail, just as it would fail to convert a book into a movie scene by scene. You need major alterations to get out anything worthwhile Especially in the case of a game with as subjective playing experience as Mass Effect the only way to do this decently is to shift the focus entirely, and tell a different story in the same universe.

[Kwonnern]

Aceattack wrote...

I know this has obviously been discussed in the previous forums and obviously given the uneven track record of game to movie adaptations it is a some what loaded topic of conversation. But after seeing the new launch trailer I feel the Mass effect universe might have enough depth and emotion overall to actually make for a compelling movie script. Further more the time seem right following a hugely successful Sci-Fi movie in Avatar. I figured I would make a post and see what everyone else’s thoughts are regarding this. 

An interesting cast indeed! (worst cast ever?)
news.vgchartz.com/news.php

Modifié par Kwonnern, 01 février 2010 - 07:08 .

[sinosleep]

Lightice_av wrote...

Neither books nor comics match video games as a narrative. Both are static mediums that can be converted into another static medium without significant trouble. The same does not apply to video games, which are an interactive medium. If you slavishly follow a video game's plot in turning it into a movie script, it will fail, just as it would fail to convert a book into a movie scene by scene. You need major alterations to get out anything worthwhile Especially in the case of a game with as subjective playing experience as Mass Effect the only way to do this decently is to shift the focus entirely, and tell a different story in the same universe.

Like I said, while the specific issue of transference from an interactive medium to a noninteractive medium isn't there, other issues presented themselves that fans of books and comics both assumed making movies of either was an impossibility. You are doing the same thing, with a different issue and I disagree about it.

90% of time spent playing a game you are doing just that, playing it. Spending 35 minutes shooting at things in a level doesn't impact the narrative in any way whatsoever. You could distill that 35 minute level into a 10 minute action squence and lose nothing narratively, which is the key. If the game's universe is well built and has a good narrative I don't see why with a talented crew you couldn't turn it into a damned good movie.

Also at the end of the day most "choice" in videogames is merely the illusion of choice. ME 2 is much better in this regard than previous games, but in most games you wind up reaching the same conclusions regardless of what "choice" you made.

[Sidac]

Mas effect movie?! nononono see heres the thing..You can make good games from movies...



You cannot make good movies off of games. There have been attempts but those have failed Horribly.