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[Metroidvania]

OLILIOLLOLOLIOLOLI wrote...

Any of those female characters can be a F/F, no where on that image does it state are they only for male or only for female. In fact someone is playing on a female Shepard right now. PM for any further curiosity on that subject.

Aside from the statement that Casey made about no F/F options in ME1 in the Best Buy chat, you mean?

Granted, it might have been "Dev talk", but I don't think they'd state it over multiple conveyances without meaning it.

[Revan312]

OLILIOLLOLOLIOLOLI wrote...

Any of those female characters can be a F/F, no where on that image does it state are they only for male or only for female. In fact someone is playing on a female Shepard right now. PM for any further curiosity on that subject.

Chris stated, quite clearly, that there are NO f/f options in ME2, we assumed since he also said that there wasn't any in ME1 that Samara could potentially fill that gap, but since she's not romancable, that means NO f/f romance, period

[Sunflower Samurai]

octoberfire wrote...

Anthropophobic wrote...

octoberfire wrote...

Revan312 wrote...

*Spoiler!!*

Well, I may be able to ninja this spoiler in as you'll have to click on the link, but supposedly, this is a picture of the files associated with the "love scenes" shep may have. Someone cracked into the ISO, got this off gamefaqs and anything marked "cabin" is a romance option as that's where the dirty dead goes down, in shep's cabin.

Don't say I never warned you - img716.imageshack.us/img716/5618/canhave.png

Sooo... seems pretty official...

Oh you have GOT to be kididng me. All my worst fears have come true. No Samara, but Garrus is in?! *Ignores the urge to projectile vomit*

Thanks for all the fish men, lizards, and raptors BioWare. You sure as hell listened to the wrong type of fan feedback. I guess I'm just going to be blunt here. First the Tali romance (for males only, no less) and now the Garrus one. MaleSheps get the hot and wild bachelor party while FemSheps get the zoo animals to party with. Ugh. F*** this.

Garrus is a million times sexier than any other character.

Well, congratulations the game is tailor-made for you then. Have fun with your raptor.

Yes, I for one will certainly enjoy my time with my man-raptor-bird. I love Garrus immensely. Wrong feedback? It was the majority. At least vocally. The girls that didn't want Garrus were like what, 1 or 2%? So that was the right feedback? 
The demand for Tali and Garrus were higher than anything. At least, from what they saw.
If you love the male's options so much. Just play the male shep. No big deal at all.

[Eternal Dust]

Sunflower Samurai wrote...

Yes, I for one will certainly enjoy my time with my man-raptor-bird. I love Garrus immensely. Wrong feedback? It was the majority. At least vocally. The girls that didn't want Garrus were like what, 1 or 2%? So that was the right feedback? 
The demand for Tali and Garrus were higher than anything. At least, from what they saw.
If you love the male's options so much. Just play the male shep. No big deal at all.

And you're getting these statistics where? Yeah, the demand was high on only their boards. What makes you think that this sentiment carried through out there...in the real world...where there are more players than the small congregation on BioWare's site?

[Eradyn]

It is also possible that they conducted their own market research and came to the conclusions they did. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, just that they may very well have done that.

[Revan312]

As I posted in my other thread, I'd like to know why, since Garrus was now made the malien romance option, that they made a brand new race just to be a malien romance option, I'm confused.



If I was the devs, I would have made Garrus and Jacob femshep options and then Samara, or another female. Creating a whole new race just to throw more strangeness at femsheps seems bizarre considering the overwhelming majority of male gamers enjoy f/f action.. Plus you'd appease the gay romance gamers (somewhat) and nobody would have even known about Thane to care that he wasn't available...



I'm just a little flabbergasted that they went down this path, the anger is going to be continual (Which I'm sure they find annoying) until ME3. Bioware = masochists

[xxSgt_Reed_24xx]

Revan312 wrote...

As I posted in my other thread, I'd like to know why, since Garrus was now made the malien romance option, that they made a brand new race just to be a malien romance option, I'm confused.

If I was the devs, I would have made Garrus and Jacob femshep options and then Samara, or another female. Creating a whole new race just to throw more strangeness at femsheps seems bizarre considering the overwhelming majority of male gamers enjoy f/f action.. Plus you'd appease the gay romance gamers (somewhat) and nobody would have even known about Thane to care that he wasn't available...

I'm just a little flabbergasted that they went down this path, the anger is going to be continual (Which I'm sure they find annoying) until ME3. Bioware = masochists

Well, I'm sure that didn't just make thane so he could be a romance option for the ladies. He seems like an awesome character to me and will most likely be in my party a lot.

That being said, I would have liked a Suze/FemShep romance or a Miranda/FemShep romance.

[Mokthr]

octoberfire wrote...

Sunflower Samurai wrote...

Yes, I for one will certainly enjoy my time with my man-raptor-bird. I love Garrus immensely. Wrong feedback? It was the majority. At least vocally. The girls that didn't want Garrus were like what, 1 or 2%? So that was the right feedback? 
The demand for Tali and Garrus were higher than anything. At least, from what they saw.
If you love the male's options so much. Just play the male shep. No big deal at all.

And you're getting these statistics where? Yeah, the demand was high on only their boards. What makes you think that this sentiment carried through out there...in the real world...where there are more players than the small congregation on BioWare's site?

Ok, now please dont bite my head off

But honestly, Bioware is not dumb. I'm sure they did their homework when seeing exactly how popular garrus and tali were. They have a whole lot of people working on this game, i doubt their only source for this information was their own boards.

They didn't make Garrus or Tali LIs in the first game because they didn't think they would be that popular. So i doubt they would make them LIs in ME2 without knowing for sure that a lot of people wanted it. Bioware has proven again and again that they know how to make games, i trust their judgement.

Also, from that one interview with Casey, there could always be more than 3 romance options in the game, so Samara isn't completely out yet.

[Phoenixblight]

Revan312 wrote...

As I posted in my other thread, I'd like to know why, since Garrus was now made the malien romance option, that they made a brand new race just to be a malien romance option, I'm confused.

If I was the devs, I would have made Garrus and Jacob femshep options and then Samara, or another female. Creating a whole new race just to throw more strangeness at femsheps seems bizarre considering the overwhelming majority of male gamers enjoy f/f action.. Plus you'd appease the gay romance gamers (somewhat) and nobody would have even known about Thane to care that he wasn't available...

I'm just a little flabbergasted that they went down this path, the anger is going to be continual (Which I'm sure they find annoying) until ME3. Bioware = masochists

You have proof that they made an entire new race just for Femsheps? IT could easily because They wanted to creat THane because he worked with the story. I guess thats too far fetched.

[Metroidvania]

You have proof that they made an entire new race just for Femsheps? IT could easily because They wanted to creat THane because he worked with the story. I guess thats too far fetched.

They specifically said they made Thane's character, (as well as his entire species since he was the first primary design )based on the fact that he was to be a female Shepard Alien Romance.

[ERJAK1]

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

octoberfire wrote...

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

My theory is that DAO was meant to cater to one batch of folks and now Bioware is catering to another batch. Just saying...

What, the heterosexual douchebag frat-boy types?

Well, us femshep malien lovers got handed a few bones as well I think.

Yeah and us Femshep Femalien/female lovers just got boned. So F*** you.

[Nyaore]

Come on guys, let's not fight... *sighs* I'm sorry to all the Samara fans who are disappointed with this news. I know what it's like to want a character to be romanceable only to find out that they aren't. (Teagan... *sniff*) However there's no need to get snippy with one another, and no need to gloat for that matter either. *looks at people from both sides* Can't we all just get along?

Modifié par Nyaore, 23 janvier 2010 - 02:24 .

[ERJAK1]

Mokthr wrote...

octoberfire wrote...

Sunflower Samurai wrote...

Yes, I for one will certainly enjoy my time with my man-raptor-bird. I love Garrus immensely. Wrong feedback? It was the majority. At least vocally. The girls that didn't want Garrus were like what, 1 or 2%? So that was the right feedback? 
The demand for Tali and Garrus were higher than anything. At least, from what they saw.
If you love the male's options so much. Just play the male shep. No big deal at all.

And you're getting these statistics where? Yeah, the demand was high on only their boards. What makes you think that this sentiment carried through out there...in the real world...where there are more players than the small congregation on BioWare's site?

Ok, now please dont bite my head off

But honestly, Bioware is not dumb. I'm sure they did their homework when seeing exactly how popular garrus and tali were. They have a whole lot of people working on this game, i doubt their only source for this information was their own boards.

They didn't make Garrus or Tali LIs in the first game because they didn't think they would be that popular. So i doubt they would make them LIs in ME2 without knowing for sure that a lot of people wanted it. Bioware has proven again and again that they know how to make games, i trust their judgement.

Also, from that one interview with Casey, there could always be more than 3 romance options in the game, so Samara isn't completely out yet.

How about the F/F then huh? Only Fox complained about that and they got enough backlash they had to publicly apologize. Biowares just being a bunch of B******.




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[Revan312]

Phoenixblight wrote...

You have proof that they made an entire new race just for Femsheps? IT could easily because They wanted to creat THane because he worked with the story. I guess thats too far fetched.

I'll admit, that was an exaguration, he's a cool character in concept and desgn, but why make him the 2nd malien option when nobody wanted anything but Garrus to fill that role to begin with... seems strange is all, I'm not as upset as a lot of others, yes I was hoping for a Samara romance but at this point I'm just confused at the ultimate decision to not include a f/f option...  Such options are ALWAYS popular by straight and gay gamers and is the safest route to allow blatent fanfare

Bioware just seemed a bit on the mentally disabled side of things concerning this decision...

[creature from the black bethesda]

Mokthr wrote...

Ok, now please dont bite my head off 

But honestly, Bioware is not dumb. I'm sure they did their homework when seeing exactly how popular garrus and tali were. They have a whole lot of people working on this game, i doubt their only source for this information was their own boards.

They didn't make Garrus or Tali LIs in the first game because they didn't think they would be that popular. So i doubt they would make them LIs in ME2 without knowing for sure that a lot of people wanted it. Bioware has proven again and again that they know how to make games, i trust their judgement.

Also, from that one interview with Casey, there could always be more than 3 romance options in the game, so Samara isn't completely out yet.

The only thing I'm a bit accept about is that out of everything they would make some tall turtle into a LI and an LI that is against the lore simply because of a few (okay well maybe not a few ) fans that are obsessed with them wanted it.

Ah well, maybe in ME3 I guess it's kind of fair considering you guys have been waiting for like what 3 or 2 years?

[Eternal Dust]

Mokthr wrote...
Ok, now please dont bite my head off

*Eases back, takes a breath*

Mokthr wrote...
But honestly, Bioware is not dumb. I'm sure they did their homework when seeing exactly how popular garrus and tali were. They have a whole lot of people working on this game, i doubt their only source for this information was their own boards.

They didn't make Garrus or Tali LIs in the first game because they didn't think they would be that popular. So i doubt they would make them LIs in ME2 without knowing for sure that a lot of people wanted it. Bioware has proven again and again that they know how to make games, i trust their judgement.

Also, from that one interview with Casey, there could always be more than 3 romance options in the game, so Samara isn't completely out yet.

I happen to frequent many boards and believe me when I say that things get the freakiest on BioWare's boards when it's in regards to Tali or Garrus....

I don't know. I've just lost all hope. It would have been easier if they had just told us this weeks ago so people like me can take it all in earlier and not just days before the release. It really kills the mood.

[Phoenixblight]

Metroidvania wrote...

You have proof that they made an entire new race just for Femsheps? IT could easily because They wanted to creat THane because he worked with the story. I guess thats too far fetched.

They specifically said they made Thane's character, (as well as his entire species since he was the first primary design )based on the fact that he was to be a female Shepard Alien Romance.

Where is this stated? Not calling you a liar, just curious.

[Mokthr]

octoberfire wrote...

Mokthr wrote...
Ok, now please dont bite my head off

*Eases back, takes a breath*

Mokthr wrote...
But honestly, Bioware is not dumb. I'm sure they did their homework when seeing exactly how popular garrus and tali were. They have a whole lot of people working on this game, i doubt their only source for this information was their own boards.

They didn't make Garrus or Tali LIs in the first game because they didn't think they would be that popular. So i doubt they would make them LIs in ME2 without knowing for sure that a lot of people wanted it. Bioware has proven again and again that they know how to make games, i trust their judgement.

Also, from that one interview with Casey, there could always be more than 3 romance options in the game, so Samara isn't completely out yet.

I happen to frequent many boards and believe me when I say that things get the freakiest on BioWare's boards when it's in regards to Tali or Garrus....

I don't know. I've just lost all hope. It would have been easier if they had just told us this weeks ago so people like me can take it all in earlier and not just days before the release. It really kills the mood.

As far as Samara is concerned, really, other than her reveal video, we haven't seen or heard much of anything about her. So she could still be a LI. Also, in that pic people are talking about, the one about the cabins and the LI names next to them, i saw one cabin that didn't have a name next to it. Not sure if that means anything, but you never know.

And if Samara is a LI, a lot of people are going to have to apologize to Bioware for jumping the gun

[Metroidvania]

Phoenixblight wrote...
Where is this stated? Not calling you a liar, just curious.

I probably overexaggerated , for which I apologize.

It has been stated multiple times by Casey. this is one I found by googling.

http://io9.com/54521...n-mass-effect-2

Thane was, at the very least, created halfway in the sense that he was designed to be a romance interest.

[creature from the black bethesda]

Mokthr wrote...

octoberfire wrote...

Mokthr wrote...
Ok, now please dont bite my head off

*Eases back, takes a breath*

Mokthr wrote...
But honestly, Bioware is not dumb. I'm sure they did their homework when seeing exactly how popular garrus and tali were. They have a whole lot of people working on this game, i doubt their only source for this information was their own boards.

They didn't make Garrus or Tali LIs in the first game because they didn't think they would be that popular. So i doubt they would make them LIs in ME2 without knowing for sure that a lot of people wanted it. Bioware has proven again and again that they know how to make games, i trust their judgement.

Also, from that one interview with Casey, there could always be more than 3 romance options in the game, so Samara isn't completely out yet.

I happen to frequent many boards and believe me when I say that things get the freakiest on BioWare's boards when it's in regards to Tali or Garrus....

I don't know. I've just lost all hope. It would have been easier if they had just told us this weeks ago so people like me can take it all in earlier and not just days before the release. It really kills the mood.

As far as Samara is concerned, really, other than her reveal video, we haven't seen or heard much of anything about her. So she could still be a LI. Also, in that pic people are talking about, the one about the cabins and the LI names next to them, i saw one cabin that didn't have a name next to it. Not sure if that means anything, but you never know.

And if Samara is a LI, a lot of people are going to have to apologize to Bioware for jumping the gun

I would kiss them all, spit shine their shoes, and tattoo the logo on my chest and back as big as it can fit. 

jkjk

I've gotten over the initial shock now. Well, it's a good thing I romanced Liara in my final play-through. Hopefully the game will be epic enough to make me forgive and forget.

[Sunflower Samurai]

octoberfire wrote...

Sunflower Samurai wrote...

Yes, I for one will certainly enjoy my time with my man-raptor-bird. I love Garrus immensely. Wrong feedback? It was the majority. At least vocally. The girls that didn't want Garrus were like what, 1 or 2%? So that was the right feedback? 
The demand for Tali and Garrus were higher than anything. At least, from what they saw.
If you love the male's options so much. Just play the male shep. No big deal at all.

And you're getting these statistics where? Yeah, the demand was high on only their boards. What makes you think that this sentiment carried through out there...in the real world...where there are more players than the small congregation on BioWare's site?

What statistics? I said 'like what' meaning it wasn't meant to be taken as an actual reference to a real number. Actually, it is quite high on deviant art as well. Not just the boards. But shouldn't they really look at their boards? They ask for feedback. It seemed like to me the people who loved Garrus cared more actually. In the real world? The boards are full of real life people. Do you think Bioware should go out on the street and ask people? Really? THey shouldn't have to scavenge for feedback. The truth is, it is their board. The majority on the boards, which is actually quite a sum of people(not just Garrus lovers, just everyone in general), said they wanted Garrus and Tali. Bioware got their feedback. They shouldn't have to look anywhere else. But they do actually. They check everything they can. Casey Hudson even said that in an interview. He said the demand for Garrus and Tali was high everywhere. Its not to say that a lot of people don't like that. Its just the people who did were more vocal about it. If you go to google, you can really see quite a lot of people over the net. I only found a couple of people who didn't like Garrus and who didn't like Tali. Its all just who is more vocal. Again, it is Bioware's boards. If people didn't want to see the romance, they certainly didn't voice it enough or there wasn't enough people. Its just simple as that. The "small" congregation one because they vocalized where Bioware would be sure to see it.

[creature from the black bethesda]

Who else here thinks there's still hope? That thing in the OP mentioned 5 lovers and there's only 4 named LI in the code thing, and there's a cabin one with no name. I don't know about you guys but I've still got some hope.

[Eternal Dust]

Sunflower Samurai wrote...

What statistics? I said 'like what' meaning it wasn't meant to be taken as an actual reference to a real number.

So you really have no argument because you don't have any evidence that more people even wanted Garrus. It's only that the people who wanted him were just more vocal about it.

Sunflower Samurai wrote...
Actually, it is quite high on deviant art as well. Not just the boards. But shouldn't they really look at their boards? They ask for feedback. <snip>

Yes, they should look at their boards and also other boards, which I doubt they even did otherwise they would have addressed at least HALF of the concerns about the first game instead of adding things that people didn't like and improving things instead of removing them altogether. Really, if you're going to wholeheartedly believe everything they tell you that they did then I salute your willingness to live in total bliss and ignorance.