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[JasonPogo]

I was a FemShepard Paragon to the letter on my main save file. But this time it looks like things will be a lot different and being Renegade just makes more sense. I mean going to prison ships, working with Cerberus, and generally doing what need to be done. I think my Shep will be far more Renegade this time.

[Schneidend]

Or you could just play as a Paragon that isn't retarded. Cerberus is the only group able to help you battle a far greater threat. You're not working with them because you share their ideals, you're working with them because, without them, you'd have no support at all.

[tommythetomcat]

Renegade is too corny most of the time for a proper play though. Renegade playthroughs are like a tasty treat for me once I've played the game the way I want my shepard to be.

[GnusmasTHX]

I might in one playthrough, just so I can redeem myself and go back Paragon in ME3.

[merikano]

I'm a paragade.



SPOILER BELOW



Example: If I capture a sentry and interrogate him I'll knock him out afterwards and hide his unconscious body. If however his radio squawks asking for a roll call and he doesn't answer in a manner that conceals my presence then hell yes I'll put one right between his eyes.



END SPOILER



So basically, do my best to ensure protection of life but the moment someone endangers my mission to protect humanity and ultimately the galaxy? That's when I take the dog off the chain - so to speak.

[Marlina]

Reporter-punching aside, why do people seem to think that renegade is like the "joke" choice? Many renegade decisions make a lot of sense.

[Specs30]

ill prolly just be the normal paragon with a lil renegade (i.e. when certain people just need to die)

[fairandbalancedfan]

Marlina wrote...

Reporter-punching aside, why do people seem to think that renegade is like the "joke" choice? Many renegade decisions make a lot of sense.

This. When I play I usually have Paragon conversations, but Renegade major decisions.

[tommythetomcat]

Marlina wrote...

Reporter-punching aside, why do people seem to think that renegade is like the "joke" choice? Many renegade decisions make a lot of sense.

They make sense, if you like to role play a complete jackass.  Granted some renegade options are suiting for some situations but a sensible person isn't a jackass without reason or cause. 

[Xivai]

Live life on the moderately intense side. Paragade. You have the intelligence and kindness to care for other beings that are alive. However, your not so much of a fluffy bunny you pass up opportunities for greater good to be done. Your brain is actually located in your head, and you think before acting about allt he possibilities.



Living life on the EXTREME edge... with kindness.



Unlike Paragon where your brain is only half alive, on life support from heart. Renegades brain is transplanted into his gun, and thus tends to be temperamental ass. That's why the gun is always shoved in peoples faces, it's Renegade Shepherds brain.



The true evil to look out for... not Renegade, but Renegon.... intelligent evil. Dun Dun dun....

[lokiarchetype]

Marlina wrote...

Reporter-punching aside, why do people seem to think that renegade is like the "joke" choice? Many renegade decisions make a lot of sense.

It's because a considerable amount of renegade choices were poorly written and came across more as the "jerk" option than the "do whatever it takes" option. 

As the devs have mentioned, it's easier to write "good" and "bad" options than it is to write two options that both have their own merits and drawbacks and its difficult to choose which sacrifice is better to make. 

As such, renegade and paragon often fell into the good/evil dichotemy instead of the original intention.

A lot of the lines are pretty funny though, at least.

[Marlina]

tommythetomcat wrote...

They make sense, if you like to role play a complete jackass.  Granted some renegade options are suiting for some situations but a sensible person isn't a jackass without reason or cause. 

You don't have to always pick the bottom option when playing a renegade. I'll agree that there are some really corny lines in there, but for the major decisions, I personally think Renegade makes the most sense. 

[Marlina]

lokiarchetype wrote...

Marlina wrote...

Reporter-punching aside, why do people seem to think that renegade is like the "joke" choice? Many renegade decisions make a lot of sense.

It's because a considerable amount of renegade choices were poorly written and came across more as the "jerk" option than the "do whatever it takes" option. 

As the devs have mentioned, it's easier to write "good" and "bad" options than it is to write two options that both have their own merits and drawbacks and its difficult to choose which sacrifice is better to make. 

As such, renegade and paragon often fell into the good/evil dichotemy instead of the original intention.

A lot of the lines are pretty funny though, at least.

Again, I agree that a lot of the bottom conversation options are sort of jerk-ish, but I'm talking mostly about the ones that actually give you renegade or paragon points. My almost straight renegade FemShep chooses mostly neutral options, but will go for renegade when it's called for. 

[lokiarchetype]

Again, I agree that a lot of the bottom conversation options are sort
of jerk-ish, but I'm talking mostly about the ones that actually give
you renegade or paragon points. My almost straight renegade FemShep
chooses mostly neutral options, but will go for renegade when it's
called for.

Bottom conversation options did give renegade points occasionally, so they're associated with renegade shepard.

Personally, I often went renegade in terms of principal even on my paragon playthroughs like the BDTS decision, or Garrus's interactions and his Dr Saleon quest.

I hope they do renegade conversation options a little better this time honestly.

Modifié par lokiarchetype, 22 janvier 2010 - 07:06 .

[baardhimself]

Im gunna have to be a paragon because I want to recruit everyone and get their loyalty, and being an ass isnt going to get me those achievements

[Marlina]

lokiarchetype wrote...

Bottom conversation options did give renegade points occasionally, so they're associated with renegade shepard.

Personally, I often went renegade in terms of principal even on my paragon playthroughs like the BDTS decision, or Garrus's interactions and his Dr Saleon quest.

I hope they do renegade conversation options a little better this time honestly.

I completely agree that they should make the bottom options more convincing, but I disagree about them being required for renegade Sheps. Sure, they're "associated" with renegade, but it's very simple to play even a straight renegade without sounding like a jerk.

[J e s s e]

I never stick to one side or the other entirely on any character. Sure, they may lean heavily towards one of the two, but I make my choices on a case by case basis overall.

[Veex]

"Because it's a big, stupid jellyfish"

[lokiarchetype]

Marlina wrote...

lokiarchetype wrote...

Bottom conversation options did give renegade points occasionally, so they're associated with renegade shepard.

Personally, I often went renegade in terms of principal even on my paragon playthroughs like the BDTS decision, or Garrus's interactions and his Dr Saleon quest.

I hope they do renegade conversation options a little better this time honestly.

I completely agree that they should make the bottom options more convincing, but I disagree about them being required for renegade Sheps. Sure, they're "associated" with renegade, but it's very simple to play even a straight renegade without sounding like a jerk.

I wasn't suggesting they were required, I was simply saying that people consider renegade shepard to be the joke/jerk character because the joke/jerk conversation options occasionally award renegade points, thus the two are associated with eachother.
Simply answering the question, not taking a stance of the validity of that interpretation.

Veex wrote...

"Because it's a big, stupid jellyfish"

"You're just a bean-counter, Jeong!"

Modifié par lokiarchetype, 22 janvier 2010 - 07:40 .

[Bryy_Miller]

I'm most likely going to be a little more renegade now that I've basically on my own and technically no longer working for the council.

Modifié par Bryy_Miller, 22 janvier 2010 - 07:40 .

[bytehoven]

I have been thinking Paragon/Paragade.



My reasoning, it might be better for winning over more squad members.



Certainly, one can command allegiance as a tough commander. However, the combination of a strong command and strong paragon principles, might allow for helping settle squad member conflicts, without losing a squad members allegiance.



I had really thought this thru, until I was reviewing some of the videos, regarding the importance of squad member allegiance and development for the end game.



So, if I almost have this settled in my mind, now I have to pick which class will be the most fun. Man, this will also be a tough decision.

[Marlina]

lokiarchetype wrote...

I wasn't suggesting they were required, I was simply saying that people consider renegade shepard to be the joke/jerk character because the joke/jerk conversation options occasionally award renegade points, thus the two are associated with eachother.
Simply answering the question, not taking a stance of the validity of that interpretation.

Well, I did say "reporter-punching aside", meaning silly jerk actions. 

My point is just that you can play a renegade Shepard that ISN'T a joke.