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[Pinkflamingo22]

It recently occured to me that Asari can reproduce with humans.... so wouldn't that make some ultra interspicies mutt? Like a liger? (Lion/Tiger offspring)

[JasonPogo]

Um no it would just make an Asari.

[Shad0wOGRE]

No. The "father" species contributes no genetic material to the offspring.

[Phoenixblight]

Read the codex.

[Arrtis]

Only when it comes to color and facial features

otherwise they are asari with a female body nothing really mutant*at least abomination sort of thing*

[GnusmasTHX]

All asari offspring are asari.

[Pinkflamingo22]

Wait so why is a father needed? Is it some weird clone? How can the father contribute no genetic material?

[GnusmasTHX]

They contribute memories and experiences or something like that. Non-physical traits, maybe. Read the wiki: http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Asari

[KainrycKarr]

Pinkflamingo22 wrote...

Wait so why is a father needed? Is it some weird clone? How can the father contribute no genetic material?

He DOES contribute it. Genetics is more than cosmetics. The offspring share traits, to my understanding, much like you might have similar traits to your father. This does not necessarily mean the physical traits.

But the offspring are, biologically, Asari.

[DarkSpiral]

The process by which Asari reproduce hasn't been explained in a way that really makes sense to me.

And no, I am not asking for details on the physical act. <_<

As I recall, Liara tells you that the "father" race contributes traits to the offspring, but the child is always Asari. There isn't any actual genetic crossbreeding.

But ah well. It's The Future, right? My suspension of disbelief can take the strain. ^.-

Modifié par DarkSpiral, 22 janvier 2010 - 07:52 .

[Red Viking]

The Asari basically believe that their offspring inherit "traits" of the father species, thus making the Asari stronger as a species. Hence why mating with another Asari to produce a "pureblood" is a social stigma.

[LurchALC]

I thought they contributed a small amount of genetic material? Seems like it would be hard for s species to evolve with a stagnate gene pool.



Either way, I want to see what an Asari with a human father would look like.

[Pinkflamingo22]

I don't get it

[KainrycKarr]

DarkSpiral wrote...

The process by which Asari reproduce hasn't been explained in a way that really makes sense to me.

And no, I am not asking for details on the physical act. <_<

As I recall, Liara tells you that the "father" race contributes traits to the offspring, but the child is always Asari. There isn't any actual genetic crossbreeding.

But ah well. It's The Future, right? My suspension of disbelief can take the strain. ^.-

It's really simple. you know how you might character traits from your dad?

For instance, both myself and my father are extremely stubborn, cynical, and express our anger poorly.

Mental/character traits.

I don't think that requires the "wizard did it" explanation. Quite believable in my opinion.

[Red Viking]

Pinkflamingo22 wrote...

I don't get it

A wizard did it.

[KainrycKarr]

Pinkflamingo22 wrote...

I don't get it

It's really simple. you know how you might character traits from your dad?

For instance, both myself and my father are extremely stubborn, cynical, and express our anger poorly.

Mental/character traits.

I don't think that requires the "wizard did it" explanation. Quite believable in my opinion.

[lokiarchetype]

The father, perhaps it'd be more correct to refer to them as 'donor' and 'recipient' in this situation, contributes his genetic memories, I believe it was, thus, the child would add the knowledge of an entire lineage to the collective.

[Schneidend]

Asari always beget asari. Even the idea that something is only "gained" by mating with non-asari is a purely cultural idea.

[Pinkflamingo22]

So I'm pretty keen on genetics, and this makes no sense, the father must contribute something even if it is not a normal human breeding in which bith the mother and father account for half of the offspring's genotypes. If the DNA in the Asari keep mixing with human DNA then at some point a different "mutt" speicies of the two must be created. (this is assuming that the two species can produce viable offspring)

[KainrycKarr]

Pinkflamingo22 wrote...

So I'm pretty keen on genetics, and this makes no sense, the father must contribute something even if it is not a normal human breeding in which bith the mother and father account for half of the offspring's genotypes. If the DNA in the Asari keep mixing with human DNA then at some point a different "mutt" speicies of the two must be created. (this is assuming that the two species can produce viable offspring)

We don't have any non-fictional alien genetics to toy with, so our modern knowledge of genetics is, mostly, irrelevent in this situation. There is no way to know how it would work, as the situation in question is entirely fictional.

I really don't know why you don't understand it.

[adam_grif]

KainrycKarr wrote...

Pinkflamingo22 wrote...

I don't get it

It's really simple. you know how you might character traits from your dad?

For instance, both myself and my father are extremely stubborn, cynical, and express our anger poorly.

Mental/character traits.

I don't think that requires the "wizard did it" explanation. Quite believable in my opinion.

Mental traits you get from your parents are either genetics or the result of being raised by them. Having mind sex to pass on mental traits is such a silly idea that I can't wrap my mind around the awfulness.

[Phoenixblight]

Although asari have one gender, they are not asexual. An asari provides two copies of her own genes to her offspring, which - regardless of the species or sex of the 'father' - is always an asari. The second set is altered in a unique process called melding, also known as the joining.



During melding, an asari consciously attunes her nervous system to her partner's, sending and receiving electrical impulses directly through the skin. A common phrase used before melding is "embrace eternity," presumably to help focus the partner's mind. Effectively, the asari and her partner briefly become one unified nervous system. This unique means of reproduction is the reason asari are talented biotics. Their evolved ability to consciously control nerve impulses is very similar to biotic training. The partner can be another asari, or an alien of any gender. However, since the asari began encountering other sentient species, non-asari mates have become preferred for the diversity they provide.

An asari's melding ability extends to a mental connection as well, which Liara describes as being the true union between an asari and her partner. It allows the asari to explore her partner's genetic heritage and pass desirable traits on to any offspring. During mating an asari and her partner share memories, thoughts, and feelings. It is also possible for an asari to to meld with another for the sole purpose of transferring thoughts, without reproduction. This technique is used by both Liara and Shiala, with varying success; Liara finds the ordeal extremely intense and debilitating

[Schneidend]

The father, at most, contributes resistances to diseases and such. But, the actual biology of the other race is not a factor. The act of conception is, for an asari, a purely mental exercise. No actual genetic material is exchanged.

[Pinkflamingo22]

Phoenixblight wrote...

Although asari have one gender, they are not asexual. An asari provides two copies of her own genes to her offspring, which - regardless of the species or sex of the 'father' - is always an asari. The second set is altered in a unique process called melding, also known as the joining.

During melding, an asari consciously attunes her nervous system to her partner's, sending and receiving electrical impulses directly through the skin. A common phrase used before melding is "embrace eternity," presumably to help focus the partner's mind. Effectively, the asari and her partner briefly become one unified nervous system. This unique means of reproduction is the reason asari are talented biotics. Their evolved ability to consciously control nerve impulses is very similar to biotic training. The partner can be another asari, or an alien of any gender. However, since the asari began encountering other sentient species, non-asari mates have become preferred for the diversity they provide.
An asari's melding ability extends to a mental connection as well, which Liara describes as being the true union between an asari and her partner. It allows the asari to explore her partner's genetic heritage and pass desirable traits on to any offspring. During mating an asari and her partner share memories, thoughts, and feelings. It is also possible for an asari to to meld with another for the sole purpose of transferring thoughts, without reproduction. This technique is used by both Liara and Shiala, with varying success; Liara finds the ordeal extremely intense and debilitating

You my friend, are awesome. Thank you, it now makes sense.

[Shad0wOGRE]

Pinkflamingo22 wrote...

Wait so why is a father needed? Is it some weird clone? How can the father contribute no genetic material?

Asari are self fertilizing hermaphrodites that require some sort of bio feedback, via their "bond", to self-impregnate. The traits their offspring "inherit" from the "father" are most likely imprinted by the mother's memories/perceptions of the "father" while the offspring is in utero.

Why do Asari require a "father"? It's likely evolutionary. Humanoid organisms tend to be rather helpless at a young age and having two parents increases the likelihood of survival and the passing on of genes. So like humans, who developed strong pair-bondings for an increased chance of their offspring surviving, the Asari probably evolved this need to bond out of simple evolutionary forces. The offspring of Asari who reproduced without "bonding" to mates simply didn't live long enough to breed themselves. The offspring of Asari who had parents that reproduced by bonding did survive long enough to mate.

Modifié par CommanderNuetral, 22 janvier 2010 - 08:06 .