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[LurchALC]

Pinkflamingo22 wrote...

So I'm pretty keen on genetics, and this makes no sense, the father must contribute something even if it is not a normal human breeding in which bith the mother and father account for half of the offspring's genotypes. If the DNA in the Asari keep mixing with human DNA then at some point a different "mutt" speicies of the two must be created. (this is assuming that the two species can produce viable offspring)

That would explain the differnt markings on the heads of the asari, and variations in the skin tone. That, and even as some one who know very little about genetics, I don't see how a child can be concived with out there being and DNA or genetic material transfered what so ever. If they don't need it, why do they need a mate at all?

[LucidStrike]

LurchALC wrote...

I thought they contributed a small amount of genetic material? Seems like it would be hard for s species to evolve with a stagnate gene pool.

Either way, I want to see what an Asari with a human father would look like.

They aren't stagnant. The genes do change through the Asari reproductive process. They might be stagnant if they only reproduced among their own gene pull, which is the rationale behind the "pure blood" stigma.

I don't imagine it makes much of an obvious diference. The Asari in ME1 just have different skin tones, markings, facial features, etc, like we do. It's not like a liger, especially because they aren't sterile.

[GnusmasTHX]

CommanderNuetral wrote...

Pinkflamingo22 wrote...

Wait so why is a father needed? Is it some weird clone? How can the father contribute no genetic material?

Asari are self fertilizing hermaphrodites that require some sort of bio feedback, via their "bond", to self-impregnate. The traits their offspring "inherit" from the "father" are most likely imprinted by the mother's memories/perseptions of the "father" while the offspring is in utero.

Why do Asari require a "father"? It's likely evolutionary. Humanoid organisms tend to be rather helpless at a young age and having two parents increases the likelihood of survival and the passing on of genes. So like humans, who developed strong pair-bondings for an increased chance of their offspring surviving, the Asari probably evolved this need to bond out of simple evolutionary forces. The offspring of Asari who reproduced without "bonding" to mates simply didn't live long enough to breed themselves. The offspring of Asari who had parents that reproduced by bonding did survive long enough to mate.

Sounds hot, you could write erotica.

[vhatever]

Phoenixblight wrote...

Although asari have one gender, they are not asexual. An asari provides two copies of her own genes to her offspring, which - regardless of the species or sex of the 'father' - is always an asari. The second set is altered in a unique process called melding, also known as the joining.

If it's two copies of the same set of genes, then it is indeed asexual reproduction. It could be 30 copies and it would still be asexual.

The asari are like asexual fungi/bacteria that will only reproduce when the right environmental stimuli is applied.

[Phoenixblight]

vhatever wrote...

Phoenixblight wrote...

Although asari have one gender, they are not asexual. An asari provides two copies of her own genes to her offspring, which - regardless of the species or sex of the 'father' - is always an asari. The second set is altered in a unique process called melding, also known as the joining.

If it's two copies of the same set of genes, then it is indeed asexual reproduction. It could be 30 copies and it would still be asexual.

The asari are like asexual fungi/bacteria that will only reproduce when the right environmental stimuli is applied.

Don't attack me its from the wiki. I just copied and pasted what was there.

[LucidStrike]

I just remembered a term that describes this phenomenon well enough. Parthenogenesis.

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[vhatever]

Phoenixblight wrote...

vhatever wrote...

Phoenixblight wrote...

Although asari have one gender, they are not asexual. An asari provides two copies of her own genes to her offspring, which - regardless of the species or sex of the 'father' - is always an asari. The second set is altered in a unique process called melding, also known as the joining.

If it's two copies of the same set of genes, then it is indeed asexual reproduction. It could be 30 copies and it would still be asexual.

The asari are like asexual fungi/bacteria that will only reproduce when the right environmental stimuli is applied.

Don't attack me its from the wiki. I just copied and pasted what was there.

don't say I'm attacking you when I'm simply correcting you.

[GnusmasTHX]

vhatever wrote...

Phoenixblight wrote...

vhatever wrote...

Phoenixblight wrote...

Although asari have one gender, they are not asexual. An asari provides two copies of her own genes to her offspring, which - regardless of the species or sex of the 'father' - is always an asari. The second set is altered in a unique process called melding, also known as the joining.

If it's two copies of the same set of genes, then it is indeed asexual reproduction. It could be 30 copies and it would still be asexual.

The asari are like asexual fungi/bacteria that will only reproduce when the right environmental stimuli is applied.

Don't attack me its from the wiki. I just copied and pasted what was there.

don't say I'm attacking you when I'm simply correcting you.

Intruder alert!

[Phoenixblight]

vhatever wrote...

Phoenixblight wrote...

vhatever wrote...

Phoenixblight wrote...

Although asari have one gender, they are not asexual. An asari provides two copies of her own genes to her offspring, which - regardless of the species or sex of the 'father' - is always an asari. The second set is altered in a unique process called melding, also known as the joining.

If it's two copies of the same set of genes, then it is indeed asexual reproduction. It could be 30 copies and it would still be asexual.

The asari are like asexual fungi/bacteria that will only reproduce when the right environmental stimuli is applied.

Don't attack me its from the wiki. I just copied and pasted what was there.

don't say I'm attacking you when I'm simply correcting you.

Again I copy and pasted it from the wiki. Should go correct it there.

[Archie591]

Father contributes nothing physical because Liara said to Shepard that the physical act was not required.



If there is no physical act then there cannot be transfer of genetic material. Unless the melding also involves the Asari gaining deep insights into the genetic code of the father race. In which case it's possible that some genetic knowledge is retrieved. I suppose the offspring's own genetic material could be influenced by this, creating an Asari that is somewhat different from the mother.



Interesting way to reproduce... still better then the Salarians though. They have no fun at all.

[LurchALC]

LucidStrike wrote...

LurchALC wrote...

I thought they contributed a small amount of genetic material? Seems like it would be hard for s species to evolve with a stagnate gene pool.

Either way, I want to see what an Asari with a human father would look like.

They aren't stagnant. The genes do change through the Asari reproductive process. They might be stagnant if they only reproduced among their own gene pull, which is the rationale behind the "pure blood" stigma.

I don't imagine it makes much of an obvious diference. The Asari in ME1 just have different skin tones, markings, facial features, etc, like we do. It's not like a liger, especially because they aren't sterile.

Well I noticed that their facial marking are similar to features on the other citadel races. And Liara, being the only know pure blood in the game, had unique features.
It wasn't explained very well, and Liara admitted shes not a biologist, so maybe it will be clarified in ME2.

[regnier666]

liara father is wrex, that would be funny. but i would like to know what kind of asari it will make if the father is a krogan. super-badass asari with bad attitude and always want to kill someone

Modifié par regnier666, 22 janvier 2010 - 08:40 .

[Andaius20]

Hasn't anyone given a link to the codex yet? They explain it all.

Asari: Biology

Asari have a robust cellular regenerative system. While they do not heal faster than other species, asari are known to reach 1,000 years of age.



Although asari have one gender, they are not asexual. An asari provides two copies of her own genes to her offspring. The second set is altered in a unique process called melding.



During melding, an asari consciously attunes her nervous system to her partner's, sending and receiving electrical impulses directly through the skin. The partner can be another asari, or an alien of either gender. Effectively, the asari and her partner briefly become one unified nervous system.

[vhatever]

Andaius20 wrote...


During melding, an asari consciously attunes her nervous system to her partner's, sending and receiving electrical impulses directly through the skin. The partner can be another asari, or an alien of either gender. Effectively, the asari and her partner briefly become one unified nervous system.

 
Kind of remind me off...

Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid.

[EatinMcRib]

I can't help but to imagine how it must suck to be the father. You just cuddle for a bit and taste purple for a second. You'd then have to go whack it out in the bathroom afterwords.

Modifié par EatinMcRib, 22 janvier 2010 - 09:00 .

[Matterialize]

I figure it works like this: Since the asari fiddles with the 2nd set of her genes to create a unique child instead of a clone, the meld probably enables her to read her partner's genes and imprint certain differences on the child's, sort of like scanning a sheet of paper. It'd all be happening subconsciously, she probably wouldn't be able to actively pick and choose traits to pass on. She might end up experiencing them, though - depending on which traits are being transferred, she might envision sounds, lights/colors, or even emotions. Maybe even tastes and smells.

Maybe that's why everything goes all pink during that one part if you decide to bone Liara. That could be what it's like "inside" the meld.

Modifié par Matterialize, 22 janvier 2010 - 09:15 .

[Schneidend]

EatinMcRib wrote...

I can't help but to imagine how it must suck to be the father. You just cuddle for a bit and taste purple for a second. You'd then have to go whack it out in the bathroom afterwords.

Er, except that asari have a birth canal analogous to a vagina? They also have mouths and, presumably, rectums. Did you fall asleep during the sex scene in ME1, or were you just not paying attention?

[EatinMcRib]

I didn't see any actual humping, and Shep was already full clothed and waiting by the time Liara woke up.

[Schneidend]

EatinMcRib wrote...

I didn't see any actual humping, and Shep was already full clothed and waiting by the time Liara woke up.

You don't see any actual humping with Kaiden or Ashley either. I suppose it must not happen, then.

Liara herself says that asari can have physical sex. They have holes for you to put things in. Discussion over.

[DaftPaycheck]

You know, it's pretty easy to use electrical impulses or stimuli on the brain to produce an orgasm..or so I've been told. So, in very...crude...terms Shep wouldn't necessarily need to well you know.

[T.E.M.Squad]

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[javierabegazo]

*Buries age old thread*