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Synthesis and the Hayflick Limit


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#26
Hadeedak

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It fails even sooner than that.

 

"Add your energy to the Crucible"

 

Wait, what?  My energy?  Am I hooked up to the Matrix?  Did Joker plug in the overlord?

 

Haven't you been listening to Swoby?



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Haven't you been listening to Swoby?

 

IKR

 

Synthesis is just making the Perfect Reaper. Duhhhh.

 

It's not forced this time because Shepard is allowed to make the decision himself without compulsion.

 

By adding his memories, hopes, dreams to a Reaper, he'll 'teach it how to love'. The experiment is a huge success, as far as the 'Catalyst' is concerned. It doesn't see the difference between physical and virtual existence. Bodies are useless illusions to it.

 

All of ME3 was a virtual dream. A retelling of the actual events, meant to keep us in the dark on what 'Shepard' may actually mean.

 

Destroy wins. Control loses. Synthesis is wrong.

(But only from our protagonist POV. The story would imo continue onward and in interesting ways, justifying choosing Control and Synth in other terms - not just in the Reaper War framework of 'win/lose'. So don't worry.)

 

 

I'm sarcastic here but not even really sarcastic. I actually think this. The IT forum has a tin foil hat emote. Where's this forum's? :(

 

 

They will remember Shepard... in a future with limitless possibilities... but they will always remember what it took to win.

 

All endings may lose Shepard, but all my keep him 'alive'.

 

(Blue is bolded because I believe it may be the default canon. Red however is the continuation reward for trilogy players. And Green will just be a weird new experience for us to explore. No more Shepard. Everything will change. But on our terms.)



#28
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And yes, we plugged in the Overlord. At least with Synthesis.

 

More like Shepard VI in Control.

 

And getting out of the rubble in Destroy (but in what form?), with a badass Reaper Destroyer in tow.



#29
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3D, the Crucible blasts Shepard's "essence" or "organic energy" not his DNA. See, when you think of it that way it makes sense!



#30
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What I always wondered is that since the machine appears to amplify Shepard's organic energy (whatever the hell that means) couldn't he just put in a little less of himself in (like a finger) instead of doing the swan dive?



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Because our Shepard wasn't physical. The Crucible was a moral choice.

 

Ok I stop. Night :)

 

EDIT: To reiterate - I don't think Synthesis, taken at face value, makes a lick of sense. None. At all. Not in what we're shown.

 



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The limit on cell division is almost exclusively based in the telomeres, which shorten after each cell division.

 

Basically the Hayflick Limit can be beaten by 'simply' lenghtening the telomeres. This is current research.

 

I'm grossly oversimplifying things here, but the point is that we do not need Synthesis to beat the Hayflick limit. Most of you can expect it to happen within your lifetime. 


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The limit on cell division is almost exclusively based in the telomeres, which shorten after each cell division.

 

Basically the Hayflick Limit can be beaten by 'simply' lenghtening the telomeres. This is current research.

 

I'm grossly oversimplifying things here, but the point is that we do not need Synthesis to beat the Hayflick limit. Most of you can expect it to happen within your lifetime. 

 

So many go blah blah about "I'm losing my faith in humanity" and "I wish I was born in ____".

 

Naw, come on. We could live at least decades longer within the next couple hundred years - and that's a conservative estimate. That rocks! Go us. Go science.

 

Ok really going to bed now. Was on Rick and Morty marathon.



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So many go blah blah about "I'm losing my faith in humanity" and "I wish I was born in ____".

 

Naw, come on. We could live at least decades longer within the next couple hundred years - and that's a conservative estimate. That rocks! Go us. Go science.

 

Ok really going to bed now. Was on Rick and Morty marathon.

 

According to Aubrey de Grey the first person that becomes a thousand years old is already alive today.

 

yes, his last name is de Grey, and he looks like Gandalf before his hair turned grey.


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