[quote]Mechnic wrote...
MprezdNZ:
"When you said their inaction 'may' make you go elsewhere - I took that to mean you would consider obtaining it illegally. If you actually meant leaving the game entirely then I apologise for my assumption. If you play it and get the achievement, you can't just delete them as far as I am aware, so Bioware will know that you obtained it illegally even if you no longer have the dlc installed. "
1: Please show me where I said "their inaction may make me go elsewhere", I honestly don't think I said or "stated" that.
2: Anyone with your incredible knowledge should know that what ever is on your HD CAN be removed permantly and how please tell me would EA/BW know a DLC was illegitimate unless they put something on your computer to "watch" you? What I am trying to argue is the sematntcs of this whole BS pirating thing; the only people hurt are the honest people like you/others and me.
You do realise that the programmers working on the dlc didn't do the original game right? And it is entirely possible that they are more versed in one particular platform over another and being 'taught' the other platforms at the same time. Which would make it more understandable as to why the pc version was ready before the console versions. You know, sometimes you hire people and want to actually let them grow into the role and learn - and sometimes that means that they make mistakes.
1: UH are you saying that the programmers that worked on the original game did not have the same program or coding/engine as the programmers who worked on the DLCs' or the expansions? And are you saying that they have the "PC" programmers working on the PS3 or the Xbox programs? Me myself would hope that they have people who are specialized in certain platforms working on those and that there is a solid line of communication between them.
And why would you want to trust a money breaker release to a trainee? Yes you might have a tyro working the boring mundane stuff; but wouldn't you have a seasoned mentor overseeing him or her?
I still fail to see how modifying the game by creating additional content and obtaining the dlc through illegal means is the same concept to you. But if you can't get that then I don't believe there is any reason to try and actually make you understand. You obviously haven't played previous titles like NWN and actually seen what the community has done with the toolsets they have been given.
1: Yes illegal still is ILLEGAL and when the "legal" version of OtR comes out I am sure you will see tons of MODS. Like I have stated before I do not in any way support pirating. Because it screws us the honest gamers and users of software.
No I never played NWN because it was not my "cup of tea", but my son-inlaw plays it and I guess he likes it.
Bravo. The troll call is not at all cliche. Nothing like bringing that one out when you actually can't construct a thought process like a simple human being. Try to come up with even a half decent argument as to why ohupthis' comment was untrue. I'm intrigued.
1: The thought is likewise to you, it is better to pick the fruit off the tree than to wait until it falls to the ground.
You my friend are the fruit on the tree. Though what tree it is , is a different matter.


No KIWI's!!!!

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1. I take it back - you didn't say inaction you said "the delay and their total silence on WHY it is delayed "might" make me go elsewhere". look at page 13 for your post.
2. The achievements aren't on your hdd - they are linked to your bioware account. So no, if you simply delete it after completing it, it will not magically erase it from your bioware account. So if you currently show the achievement with a pc version of the game you obviously got it illegally.
3. I am saying that it appears that the people who were originally working ont his current expansion are not as experienced (in either x360/ps3/pc or maybe in all facets) as those who originally worked on the main game and shale/warden's keep as they are supposed to be working on Awakening. I get the feeling they are using this dlc is a bit of a test for future work they plan to do - seeing what they can do, the limits of their staff etc. I don't mean to insinuate that they have no mentor at all, but on the surface if the dlc appeared to be ok maybe they didn't look at it. Whether they now have their best team working on it I can't say.
4. We must drop the argument on mods and their legality as my mind cannot comprehend how you see it being illegal.