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#201
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T1l wrote...
No, he's not. I haven't seen a post from Chris in ages. I have no doubt he's busy with something, but he's not been forum moderating at all over on ME2. Those forums are a veritable ****fight of "omg it leaked" and "why can't I **** [insert alien race]?". Chris, if anything, is probably self-administering large doses of alcohol trying to forget where he's employed and the demographic of people he’s paid to moderate.


Then, either you didn't look closely enough, or you have a pretty weird notion of the timespan that could be defined as "ages". His last post is from 3 hours ago, and he never stopped posting in the last few days: 
http://social.biowar...716825/5#717591

Modifié par Abriael_CG, 23 janvier 2010 - 07:25 .


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So another week with no return to ostagar. Guess I will be playing ME 2 before I get rto, unless they surprise me and get it out before friday. After that awakening will be nearly here.

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Lucy Glitter

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 This feels like a conspiracy. Creepy.

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Major Alenko

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i got the DLC a while ago now, along with the damn update that locked all the specilaizations, really guys your not missing much. Completed it in less than 30mins, the achievement as well was pretty pointless :lol:

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Trajan60 wrote...

It's never coming out. Move on with your life.

UPDATE it's still not out yet if you want to return to ostagar just play through the game again! lol

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'Tis disheartening to read all this.



Too bad my excitement for RtO died when Chris announced the day of that it was going to be delayed.



I'm in a love/hate relationship with BioWare right now.

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Now I'm really glad of being a Blizzard fan for such a long time. Anytime someone asks Blizz when the next game is coming, the response is 'When it's ready.' Few years of waiting for StarCraft and Diablo 3 can teach one how to remain patient. Almost like zen-buddhism ;)

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chiliztri wrote...

'Tis disheartening to read all this.

Too bad my excitement for RtO died when Chris announced the day of that it was going to be delayed.

I'm in a love/hate relationship with BioWare right now.


All will be forgiven with ME 2. Whether you like that or not. >=D

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DoctorPringles wrote...
All will be forgiven with ME 2. Whether you like that or not. >=D


beware of excessive hype...

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J-all

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For as long as the wait this better be a masterpiece of content.

Modifié par J-all, 23 janvier 2010 - 03:48 .


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chiliztri

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DoctorPringles wrote...

chiliztri wrote...

'Tis disheartening to read all this.

Too bad my excitement for RtO died when Chris announced the day of that it was going to be delayed.

I'm in a love/hate relationship with BioWare right now.


All will be forgiven with ME 2. Whether you like that or not. >=D


That smiley is evil! Evil I say! :pinched:

If ME2 gets released on time, all will be forgiven...for now.

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SuperMaoriFulla wrote...

If you preorder and pay for an online product - let's say a a dark fantasy novel based on a game franchise, and you're informed that said product will be available on x given date, then you expect to receive that book on or soon about the release date. So a delay occurs. No problem, usually the online retailer will advise before hand if there's any problem. That's what good customer support should do.



You might even be fortunate to be offered a discount off your next purchase, upgraded priority shipping, and/or a complete refund with those options. If there's a second or third delay and your paid for product hasn't been delivered or arrived and there's no explanation or communication from the online retailer then you have recourse to agencies like the Better Business Bureau, Consumer Affairs etc. (depending on which country you're in). However, it's been my personal experience when a product gets the dreaded 'delivery date unavailable' tag attached to it, I've been contacted by the online retailer, offered an apology and once more concessions to make up for what has happened.



It hasn't happened often to me, but it has happened. Once involving a pre-paid for PC Game ordered in New Zealand, and the other involving some academic textbooks ordered from a major US retailer. Both times customer support literally bent over backwards and were apologetic, polite and courteous. Even when these rare bad things happen, I remember that these companies went out of their way to try and make things right. And so I keep coming back to them to do business.



At the end of the day, if a company can't supply you with a good or service you paid for, then by all means you should expect an explanation and/or ask for a refund if you feel strongly enough about the situation.



I've personally enjoyed gaming products from Bioware for years, and the quality of what they have put out into the market has generally been very good. Setbacks, delays, and unforeseen acts of god aside, I will give Bioware the benefit of the doubt. They're not 100% perfect, but I will wait until some official announcement is made that RTO has entered the dreaded 'delivery date unavailable' status before deciding whether or not to request a refund from EA Games. For now I'll just wait and see.



i was with you until the last paragraph (granted, its your opinion and i respect that). just because bioware has been doing a great job over the years, doesn't mean they "should" get a pass by their paying customers. like you mentioned, companies do try to make up for things in order to keep the paying customers satisfaction. they are not obligated, but man, good customer service can make a big difference, its sad that bioware hasn't even said a word to appease their paying customers.

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I've already given up on it and said goodbye to my $5. Been busy with other more time consuming hobbies which have prompted me not even pay attention to Dragon Age for two weeks now, heck, this is my first forum post in a while, which is weird. So yeah, I'll just be checking back about a week before Awakening expansion to try and play a bit to get in the mood to possibly shell out the money.



Will be shocked if RtO is even out by then.

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The funny thing is that the expansion is already on "pre-order" status and "available" on steam, that is if you don't mind buying now and waiting for a month before it comes out, IF it comes out on time of course.



As for me, I'll be playing Mass Effect 2 till they'll have RTO and the expansion out, already have ME2 downloaded and pre-installed, now just waiting for release and activation day, then I'll be blasting aliens away hopefully with a really big arse gun and my trusty sniper rifle.



Maybe by the time I am done playing the few characters I want to play in ME (Paragon and Renegade Infiltrator / Commando) they'll have RTO's kinks worked out.

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awsome_robot wrote...
i was with you until the last paragraph (granted, its your opinion and i respect that). just because bioware has been doing a great job over the years, doesn't mean they "should" get a pass by their paying customers. like you mentioned, companies do try to make up for things in order to keep the paying customers satisfaction. they are not obligated, but man, good customer service can make a big difference, its sad that bioware hasn't even said a word to appease their paying customers.


True, and that is disappointing. The lack of any real progress update, even if the update is to say there's nothing to update on.

This is the first time I've had a 'bad' run-in with Bioware. Hence the wait and see approach. But like many others, my patience is not infinite.

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*sighs* I can't believe they didn't give us an update of some sort Friday evening.

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ok ive been sitting here reading some comments. ok heres the thing, bioware dropped the ball. but crying about it wont bring RtO any faster to us. if any of you paid attention to the last update, only god knows where its at now. biowares system couldnt test all of the possible areas of the game. this is why it passed through the dev so easily. the game is so complex and massive, it was like this, now they scrapped the title update and is also fixing their testing system so this doesnt happen again with future (expansions updates etc) just wait. To the people who are crying about not getting RtO when they were told, tough, grow up, this kind of stuff happens all the time in the gaming world. learn to cope, and if somehow you cant manage without the update, thats sad and maybe you should seek professional help.

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I would just prefer an update of any sort about where they're at, not an estimated time of completion.

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Enigm4tic W4rrior wrote...

ok ive been sitting here reading some comments. ok heres the thing, bioware dropped the ball. but crying about it wont bring RtO any faster to us. if any of you paid attention to the last update, only god knows where its at now. biowares system couldnt test all of the possible areas of the game. this is why it passed through the dev so easily. the game is so complex and massive, it was like this, now they scrapped the title update and is also fixing their testing system so this doesnt happen again with future (expansions updates etc) just wait. To the people who are crying about not getting RtO when they were told, tough, grow up, this kind of stuff happens all the time in the gaming world. learn to cope, and if somehow you cant manage without the update, thats sad and maybe you should seek professional help.

Tool in a forum, more at 11.

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you all are in violation of rule 3.14 subsection sixty-twelve paragraph -62 of the site rules
Also this thread is redundant as there are many threds bashing bio
As such this thred will be locked...
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#221
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Return to Ostagar shouldn't have been a DLC in the first place since

1) its the place where you go after the origin story.

2) It should have been an in game quest.




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I got the DL as soon as i saw in the forums it was available for xbox live. I have finished it. It took maybe an hour and was very enjoyable, i do have a few questions about items/possible bugs i noticed. If someone whos finished it could pm me about a question i have about a gift you find, that would be awesome, i want to see if i messed something up with talking to people and didn't get a cut seen/plot item or something. Thanks, -malice-

Also i got the dl without opening the game the same day. I waited till last night to play it. So i didn't have the title update, my specializations are not locked or anything, but now im getting a weird "cannot connect to bioware servers" thing on my main screen, idk if its cause i have the content or theres just nothing more to be gotten. If anyone knows that would be cool to know as well : ):ph34r:

Modifié par MaliceDelight, 23 janvier 2010 - 08:09 .


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What a Twist wrote...

Enigm4tic W4rrior wrote...

ok ive been sitting here reading some comments. ok heres the thing, bioware dropped the ball. but crying about it wont bring RtO any faster to us. if any of you paid attention to the last update, only god knows where its at now. biowares system couldnt test all of the possible areas of the game. this is why it passed through the dev so easily. the game is so complex and massive, it was like this, now they scrapped the title update and is also fixing their testing system so this doesnt happen again with future (expansions updates etc) just wait. To the people who are crying about not getting RtO when they were told, tough, grow up, this kind of stuff happens all the time in the gaming world. learn to cope, and if somehow you cant manage without the update, thats sad and maybe you should seek professional help.

Tool in a forum, more at 11.




Het twisty does that make it redundant?

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the delay is most likely cause ME2 is coming next week and most resources are on that at the moment, so expect RTo when ME2 comes out, still imagine if ME2 gets delayed and isnt available on tuesday then the forums will be alive

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Since ME2 is already on my PC awaiting the unlock code, and went gold some time ago, I would say this is false. I would also suggest that the post release team for DA:O and the Pre-release team for ME2 are totally different. This would make shifting people from one to the other unlikely.