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[Tilarta]

I'm not sure if this is a spoiler or not.

Although I have limited info so far, it seems most of your squadmates tend to be Biotics or Techs. Only Grunt seems to be "pure combat", at least, what what I know of Krogan battlestyles, I would expect him to be like Wrex.

Miranda, biotic.
Jacob, biotic.
Tali, tech.
Garrus, tech.
Thane, biotic.
Grunt, biotic soldier.
Subject Zero, biotic.
Mordin, tech.
Samara, biotic.
Zaeed, soldier.

Why are there so many support class squadmates and so few soldiers?

And why are most of them biotics?

[Amixon]

Legion is soldier

Modifié par Amixon, 22 janvier 2010 - 12:55 .

[Decho the Dolphin]

Well, you aren't really taking into account the fact that quite a few of the companions occupy hybrid roles. Garrus, for example, is a Turian Agent, which is effectively an infiltrator, making him half tech, half soldier.

[Sialboats]

Tilarta wrote...

Miranda - Biotic/Tech, Sentinel.
Jacob - Biotic/Combat, Vanguard?.
Tali - Tech, Engineer.
Garrus - Tech/Combat, Infiltrator.
Thane - Biotic/Combat, Infiltrator/Vanguard fusion.
Grunt - Combat, Krogan Battlemaster.
Subject Zero - Biotic/Combat, Vanguard
Mordin - Tech, Engineer.
Samara - Biotic, Adept.
Zaeed - Combat, Soldier.

I fixed your list for you. And, really, it's not all that unbalanced. If I see another thread like this, I think I'll gouge my eyes out.

I hate the whining.

[RyuKazuha]

There very few biotic krogans, I'd assume he's a pure soldier. However, just because there are a lot of biotics, it doesn't mean they are "supporters". They are, as far as i know, not really comparable to the classes of ME1 or the playerclasses of ME2, but more specialized.



SuZe is most likely not for support, but more likely for CQC like a Vanguard, Miranda is somewhat tech/biotic, from what was seen in the playthrough, Jacob is biotic/soldier, grunt i think is full soldier, maybe a bit tech.

[RavenholmeCP42]

I got the feeling that Jacob was a Sentinel (Tech/Biotic).



And, Legion is an Infiltrator or Engineer (Not sure which), or some unique Geth class.

[Tilarta]

Well, I define a pure soldier as one who can wear Heavy Armor.



And yes, I am aware that Garrus can double as a Soldier if needs be.



However, in my experience during ME1, Biotics don't have enough endurance as a Soldier class.



With Ashley and Wrex, we could charge into a mob, blast away for about 10 seconds and not really feel damage, because we were all using Heavy Armor and had high regen.



From my perspective, it's like I've been handed a bunch of lightly armored soldiers.





Is Legion recruitable? I was hoping he was, but he wasn't on the list I checked and I thought his status as an enemy ruled out that possibility.

[Andaius20]

Consider now that there is no more armor fro squadies adn Shepard wear what ever armor you want regardless of class now.

[NICKjnp]

Tilarta wrote...

Well, I define a pure soldier as one who can wear Heavy Armor.

And yes, I am aware that Garrus can double as a Soldier if needs be.

However, in my experience during ME1, Biotics don't have enough endurance as a Soldier class.

With Ashley and Wrex, we could charge into a mob, blast away for about 10 seconds and not really feel damage, because we were all using Heavy Armor and had high regen.

From my perspective, it's like I've been handed a bunch of lightly armored soldiers.


Is Legion recruitable? I was hoping he was, but he wasn't on the list I checked and I thought his status as an enemy ruled out that possibility.

Grunt is not Biotic.  Most alien squadmates will have unique classes to them.  Samara will likely be an Asari Commando (meaning she will have an assault rifle).  Garrus is a Turian Agent so he is effectively an infiltrator (but with an assault rifle instead of a pistol).  Tali is a Quarian Mechanic (or something) so she is an engineer with a shot gun.  Get the picture?

[riddick 116]

If your wantin tough soldier type characters your pretty much stuck with grunt jacob garrus (which theyre pretty good from the leak ive seen) and prob zaeed. as for the rest they all use powers pretty heavy, (lik suze shes ok but dies fast)

[GnusmasTHX]

It's the same as before.

Modifié par GnusmasTHX, 22 janvier 2010 - 11:53 .

[Popstick]

Because a group of Biotics can tear through a field of soldiers with a wave of the arm. Hell, even a single Biotic can decimate an entire squad. Biotics are far more deadly than your average soldier or engineer...so why wouldn't you want the most powerful individuals for a suicide mission?

[psychodude310]

There were 6 squad mates in ME1, 3 of which were biotic. Now we have 10, 5 of which are biotic. Its the same ratio. And if youre dissapoited by the lack of soldier there are only three pure class characters from the looks of it.

Maybe try grunt and legion

[psychodude310]

There were 6 squad mates in ME1, 3 of which were biotic. Now we have 10, 5 of which are biotic. Its the same ratio. And if youre dissapoited by the lack of soldier there are only three pure class characters from the looks of it.

Maybe try grunt and legion

[Tilarta]

Well, they're not doing me a lot of good dead on the ground.

That was how it often played out in ME1.

Whenever I used someone with light armor, they ended up dead and I had to take the heat until I could revive them.

Which meant, as a result of this happening too much, I decided for absolute critical missions, I'd use Ashley and Wrex, who had few special powers, but had survivability. I didn't have to watch out for them as much as I did with biotics or techs.

But yes, Grunt is a definite.

I'm not sure who else to use after that.


Besides, this is the one lesson I learned from ME1:

"With heavy armor and big guns, who needs Biotics?"

And that rule would apply even more so in ME2, with the Heavy Cannons now available.

Modifié par Tilarta, 23 janvier 2010 - 12:48 .

[InfiltratorN7]

This may be the dumbest question but how do you post ur own forum? as far as what this one is about i dont think any one class is support or fighter. All of them are fighters, and YOU play the support, since u r the on one who can heal.

[InfiltratorN7]

And even thought i know that they will most likely not do this, i want all he squadmates that we kept alive back for ME3. Or atleast have Legion show up with an army of the god geth, wrex with an army of krogan, and ashley/alenko with an army of humans through out th game. if they r not reruitable. And long live Thane too, atleast tell the unverse is safe from the Reapers

[Tilarta]

There's npt a traditional support role.



However, with Tali deploying things like combat drones and Thane taking out enemies by sniping, that's what I would define as support.



I think Samara has a healing power, but I'm not sure if it applies to the squad or just her.



To reiterate the ratios, ME1 has a combat class ratio of 40%, ME2 has a combat class ratio of 10%. Quite a difference there.



And I checked the stats. The only real soldier is Grunt, because he has both high health (600) and armor (300) and has Heavy Fortification.



Nobody else is even that close. Garrus has about 280 health, 250 armor.



I've been using Legion to team with Grunt, since he's very similar (250 Health, 350 Shields, Heavy Geth Shielding).



To be honest, I wouldn't really care if they had added one more core soldier (like Ashley in ME1 with her high health, immunity and shield boost). That would enable me to have my desired core team and I wouldn't have to bother with the others unless I really wanted to.



And before you say it, Zaeed doesn't count (no shielding power).





And yes, I'm hoping the alliances I'm making in ME1-2 will give me massive military backup in ME3.



I've got the Krogan Genophage cure data which I hope I can use to get them on my side, the Rachni have already agreed to help and I hope to convince the Quarians and the Geth to fight together.