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#401
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well yeah

 

I don't see the point of caring about how the people in Thedas would conceive of race, since they are fictional. At a certain level this must be viewed through the lens of popular media conventions.

 

Vivienne is very obviously a black woman, a demographic that is marginalized in mainstream culture and media. Additionally, she has the kind of features that can cause black women to be further marginalized even relative to that (if you look around, you see a lot of white nerds complaining about her lips, etc), so people who are interested in such things are well within their rights to pose questions such as "is the use of this character something that should be commended as a progressive blow against typecasting?" or "is there anything offensive in their portrayal of this character, as related to black womanhood?". 

 

Dorian, regardless of whether he should be considered technically white or not, doesn't have an appearance that invites that kind of systemic marginalization, and I don't think his very vague duskiness (overlaid on highly caucasian-normative features) strikes any particular blows in favor of inclusiveness 

 

so I don't see why they are arguing about it. They're basically just arguing about whether southern europeans count as "white", since they're all identifying him as such, and there are other, nastier parts of the internet for that.

 
 

 

yeah, exactly. it's all very needless. i was really enjoying that thread when it was mostly just gushing over how good he looks. i didn't want that to be complicated at all. 



#402
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i just really don't feel like being impressed with them including Viv and the scribe girl because that's not ****** enough

if you want to make your game diverse you should just start with NPCs/decorative crowds in your hubs and not just be proud of a couple (literally couple) of POC you managed to squeeze into companion cast

like yes it's super excellent that they're there but 

idk

you're not trying hard enough



#403
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i think ME1 was way better at this than anything they've done since



#404
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pups i don't think there are nastier parts of internet than BSN



#405
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i think ME1 was way better at this than anything they've done since

I know right? It was pretty cool. I wish they hadn't dropped it afterward

I dunno, we haven't seen much of the random npcs yet it's mostly been quest characters at this point. We better see something good if we're supposedly going across countries and back.

#406
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I'm disappointed that we won't be seeing Tevinter as a major city, especially since Dorian and friends are going to be yapping about it for 30+ hours.

Seeing Orlais is going to be really cool, but I've had enough of Fereldan. Can we go see Antiva instead

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i think ME1 was way better at this than anything they've done since

 

the weirdest thing about them reverting away from ME1 policy was that it is literally emphasized several times in that series' canon that an overwhelming majority of humans are brown

 

this shouldn't need to be emphasized, considering it is the case in real life and should probably be assumed as the default, but there it is. 

 

so the real reason for them not doing that anymore is probably that they didn't care, plus a little reinforcement from EA, but the impression you get is that all the people who are successful enough to be shown in places like the Citadel or Illium, or who are formidable enough to make it into the main cast, must all be some kinda big white heroes 



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ah, race theory and fedoras, how i missed the scent



#409
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anyway, I am excited to find out exactly who-all can be banged. 



#410
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Varric

#411
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varric is a highly chaste individual 



#412
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sera and dorian confirmed bangability

 

cass and cullen too, i guess 



#413
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Solas, character interview.

 

Spoiler


#414
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nicholas cage



#415
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nice pants



#416
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no



#417
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I do like tight pants

#418
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It kinda looks like a really impressive tuck there

#419
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I think I will tap that

#420
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where's your animal avatar thingie i want it back



#421
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i went through a phase

 

im back now



#422
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that's not even a real rabbit



#423
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does it even lift??



#424
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It totally is

And it totally can

#425
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I really disliked how Gaider talked about Zevran pre-release. He had  a stupid joke about magaritas..

 

One thing I can also rememebr is someone complaining that zevran was the m romance and not Alistair, and there was a  lot of heteronormative sentiment and white guys > other races sentiment