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[UNSC Spartan-II]

Well it seems like a tough decision between LotSB and Overlord. I may have to get both if I have enough cash. Liara is not and never will be my LI (no offence Liara Lovers), so that part won't matter too much to me. Thanks for the help everyone. I'll post when I've got questions.

[ImaginaryMatter]

I'd actually say there's one ME2 alternate appearance pack that might be worthwhile - the one with new armor for Jack, Garrus, and Miranda. It resolves the problems of Jack and Miranda wearing next-to-nothing or a catsuit, respectively, into combat, and Garrus continuing to wear damaged armor without fixing it. (Switch off Miranda's alternate armor for her loyalty mission, though, or Captain Wasea will have a line that doesn't make any sense.)

 

Jack still isn't wearing that much, plus I can't stand those shades.

 

Although I greatly appreciate the Garrus and Miranda outfits.

[Jukaga]

I'd say Overlord is skippable. It has more awful hammerhead sequences and the gameplay is pretty bland. The climax is good though, and depending on how you handle that and the fate of the Geth there is an interesting consequence if you leave Jacob's ME3 mission till after the geth are dealt with.

[Jukaga]

Jack still isn't wearing that much, plus I can't stand those shades.

 

Although I greatly appreciate the Garrus and Miranda outfits.

Still it's a shame Miranda didn't get a helmet, only those HUD glasses.

[Jukaga]

 

 

(ME3 intro without arrival just explains him being grounded as, "The **** you've done? You're lucky you aren't court-marshalled!)

 

Either version of Anderson's dialog there sends me into a near rage. What sh*t is that Anderson? Saving the colonies from a genocidal alien race? or if Arrival is done 'you're locking me up and taking away my ship because reasons? The reapers would be here already! oh wait, I'm an idiot too for not going freelancer and actually doing something about the reapers (WHO ARE IN THE GALAXY RIGHT NOW IN THE THOUSANDS!!!!) instead of visiting lovely Vancouver.'

[FlyingSquirrel]

Either version of Anderson's dialog there sends me into a near rage. What sh*t is that Anderson? Saving the colonies from a genocidal alien race? or if Arrival is done 'you're locking me up and taking away my ship because reasons? The reapers would be here already! oh wait, I'm an idiot too for not going freelancer and actually doing something about the reapers (WHO ARE IN THE GALAXY RIGHT NOW IN THE THOUSANDS!!!!) instead of visiting lovely Vancouver.'

 

I don't think it's Anderson's fault, and either way he's pointing out that Shepard *is* actually being treated more leniently than someone else with a similar record would be. Remember that the political leadership is still unconvinced of the Reaper threat at this point, and if you *don't* do Arrival, the Alpha Relay is still destroyed with several hundred thousand batarians killed and the Alliance implicated. Under the circumstances, the Council is probably putting a lot of pressure on the Alliance to rein in their people - since they aren't convinced that the Reapers are real, they'll be more concerned about preventing a human/batarian war from breaking out.

 

Shepard may not be directly responsible for the relay explosion if you don't import Arrival, but s/he is still a former Alliance officer who just "came in from the cold" after working with a known terrorist organization. Given the politics, Shepard isn't just going to get a pat on the back and a reinstatement. And, without any further intel on the Reapers' next move, there isn't a whole lot Shepard could accomplish in those six months anyway without sufficient backing from the civilian leadership. Garrus apparently *did* get some backing from his government, after all, and the Reapers were still tearing Palaven and the turian fleet to pieces until the krogan agreed to help.

[CronoDragoon]

I don't think it's Anderson's fault, and either way he's pointing out that Shepard *is* actually being treated more leniently than someone else with a similar record would be. Remember that the political leadership is still unconvinced of the Reaper threat at this point, and if you *don't* do Arrival, the Alpha Relay is still destroyed with several hundred thousand batarians killed and the Alliance implicated. Under the circumstances, the Council is probably putting a lot of pressure on the Alliance to rein in their people - since they aren't convinced that the Reapers are real, they'll be more concerned about preventing a human/batarian war from breaking out.

 

Although I have no issue with Shepard being brought in for official questioning about Arrival, the Council did in fact believe the Reapers were real. Or perhaps more specifically, that Sovereign was a Reaper. Whether they actually believed thousands more Reapers were coming I'm not sure.

[congokong]

You're in a tough position. To get the full experience you need everything. Maybe you're not that into the series though. I didn't even know the game was still released without things like Kasumi or LotSB. I got it for PS3 and all of that was included.

 

ME2:

 

LotSB - A great DLC; especially for Liara fans. It's rather crucial for Liara who is a ME3 squadmate.

 

Overlord- It's ok but far from vital for the series. It was one of my least favorites.

 

Arrival - Wouldn't recommend it on a limited budget. It makes the ME3 prologue make more sense but that's pretty much it. It's short and nothing special.

 

 

ME3:

 

From Ashes - This contributes a lot besides the one mission because you get Javik who is one of the most interesting characters in the series IMO.

 

Leviathan- You get a few hours of gameplay and learn about the reapers' origins but it's not vital.

 

Omega- The greatest ripoff yet ironically seems among the most essential. Not doing this leaves a void in Aria's storyline. If that doesn't matter to you don't buy it. It's expensive for what you're getting.

 

Citadel- It gives the most for your money and yet is the least important for the story. It feels like swan song bonus content. It's very light0hearted and doesn't flow with the story well. That being said, it's long and very enjoyable.

[von uber]

And has great music you can download for free.

[UNSC Spartan-II]

You're in a tough position. To get the full experience you need everything. Maybe you're not that into the series though. I didn't even know the game was still released without things like Kasumi or LotSB. I got it for PS3 and all of that was included.

 

ME2:

 

LotSB - A great DLC; especially for Liara fans. It's rather crucial for Liara who is a ME3 squadmate.

 

Overlord- It's ok but far from vital for the series. It was one of my least favorites.

 

Arrival - Wouldn't recommend it on a limited budget. It makes the ME3 prologue make more sense but that's pretty much it. It's short and nothing special.

 

 

ME3:

 

From Ashes - This contributes a lot besides the one mission because you get Javik who is one of the most interesting characters in the series IMO.

 

Leviathan- You get a few hours of gameplay and learn about the reapers' origins but it's not vital.

 

Omega- The greatest ripoff yet ironically seems among the most essential. Not doing this leaves a void in Aria's storyline. If that doesn't matter to you don't buy it. It's expensive for what you're getting.

 

Citadel- It gives the most for your money and yet is the least important for the story. It feels like swan song bonus content. It's very light0hearted and doesn't flow with the story well. That being said, it's long and very enjoyable.

 

I'm deep into the series but have a limited amount of cash on me. So between Arrival and Overload, which would you recommend I buy and why?

[von uber]

I'd say Arrival personally, i preferred it to Overlord. Overlord I found to be a bit meh.

[Bob from Accounting]

Overlord.

 

It's longer. It's got some neat content in the Hammerhead. The story is more satisfying.

 

The great bulk of Arrival is merely Shepard fighting his way through the base by himself. Not too much dialogue, and rather short. 

[DeinonSlayer]

I'd say Arrival personally, i preferred it to Overlord. Overlord I found to be a bit meh.

Overlord.
 
It's longer. It's got some neat content in the Hammerhead. The story is more satisfying.
 
The great bulk of Arrival is merely Shepard fighting his way through the base by himself. Not too much dialogue, and rather short.

Gotta admit I find myself agreeing with David here.

[themikefest]

 

The great bulk of Arrival is merely Shepard fighting his way through the base by himself. Not too much dialogue, and rather short. 

That's one of the reason's I like Arrival it doesn't take long to complete. The other reason is if you do the the dlc after the suicide mission, you can see Harbinger in his true form.

[KaiserShep]

For strict roleplaying reasons, I find myself compelled to have Arrival be my pre-suicide mission objective, mainly because we're told by Hackett outright that it involves an impending reaper invasion. Since it's possible that everyone including the Normandy will be destroyed going across the relay, it makes sense to deal with that first.

[AlanC9]

For strict roleplaying reasons, I find myself compelled to have Arrival be my pre-suicide mission objective, mainly because we're told by Hackett outright that it involves an impending reaper invasion. Since it's possible that everyone including the Normandy will be destroyed going across the relay, it makes sense to deal with that first.

You could manipulate this by only installing Arrival post-SM, though that's a bit annoying..

[KaiserShep]

This is true, but aside from that, the Normandy is like new when you do Arrival post-SM, despite the spanking it got in the galactic core.

[Mcfly616]

For strict roleplaying reasons, I find myself compelled to have Arrival be my pre-suicide mission objective, mainly because we're told by Hackett outright that it involves an impending reaper invasion. Since it's possible that everyone including the Normandy will be destroyed going across the relay, it makes sense to deal with that first.

same here. However, I mostly do it because it still makes the ending (where Harbinger releases control of the Collector General) sort of a 'twist'. Like: "ahh they weren't just pawns of the Reapers. They were being directly controlled by one the entire time."


Also, doing the SM before Arrival just feels anti-climactic.

[ImaginaryMatter]

same here. However, I mostly do it because it still makes the ending (where Harbinger releases control of the Collector General) sort of a 'twist'. Like: "ahh they weren't just pawns of the Reapers. They were being directly controlled by one the entire time."


Also, doing the SM before Arrival just feels anti-climactic.

 

That's pretty much my reasons for doing Arrival before the Suicide Mission.

[von uber]

Gotta admit I find myself agreeing with David here.

Which is fine, I just prefer arrival. I like the scene where they try to sedate shep and she wakes up.

[Mordokai]

And has great music you can download for free.

 

Really? Wanna point me in the right direction?

 

For what is worth, I got pretty much all the DLC's for second game included on the disk itself. But if I'd have to suggest something... LotSB, Overlord, Kasumi, Zaeed, Arrival, in that order of preference.

 

For the third game, From the Ashes, strictly from the perspective it's the most relevant to the story. Followed by the Citadel(I just love that one), Leviathan(some nice inclusions and a really well made atmoshphere) and you can give Omega a skip, since it's nothing but a slog fest of combat. A glorious slog fest, yes, but rather lacking in everything else. It's definetly the most combat oriented, but if you don't like Aria(like I don't), you will rather suffer through it. If you find Arie likeable... well, still buy it last, but then it becomes a little better.

[von uber]

Its available from the old bsn site; bioware host it as a free 320mb d/l.
http://social.biowar...lsoundtrack.php

[Mordokai]

Much obliged.

*tips the hat*

[congokong]

I'm deep into the series but have a limited amount of cash on me. So between Arrival and Overload, which would you recommend I buy and why?

I'd pick Overlord. While Arrival makes the story flow a little better in the ME3 prologue, it's shorter with no real choices at all.

[congokong]

That's pretty much my reasons for doing Arrival before the Suicide Mission.

I can see arguments for both sides. Unlike LotSB which I feel should certainly be done before the SM, Arrival is a tough decision.

 

On the one hand it works as a good epilogue reminding you of the upcoming reaper threat which otherwise is a little awkward crammed into an otherwise collector threat exclusive story. It also fits well with ME3's prologue.

 

But on the other hand doing Arrival before the SM shows Harbinger's influence over the collectors. It fits well with the last scene before the credits after the SM; a reminder that the reapers are coming. The SM does feel like the end of the game anyway. It also makes sense not to hold off on something so crucial as an imminent reaper threat as well since you get the mission pretty early in the game (after Horizon).