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[Kane-Corr]

@Nozybidaj



Haha yeah, I'm pretty sure I can bash the Mass Effect 1 characters as well, but I don't. Why?



Because I'm a fairly optimistic person, and I don't like to focus on character flaws, but character strengths, because those things make me happy, and therefore I enjoy the game more.





Also, I love how you are judging the new characters based off of their what, one to two minute trailers that were revealed months ago? You need to stop analyzing these characters based off of first impressions. But then again, you will probably be the MOST surprised by these characters once you get to know them.



Isn't Bioware brilliant?

[Nozybidaj]

ToshiStation38 wrote...
*sigh*

Why are you so prejudiced towards this game? I understand previews seem to indicate some the things you're saying, but you act as if there is no possible way this game won't be a let down. Can you not admit it's possible you'll enjoy the game? It seems you've already decided this game is going to suck.

I never said the game is going to suck.  I've repeatedly stated that I think the game will be more then just good based on the improved combat and customization features alone.  I do happen to feel though that the story is going to be a major letdown simply because of the huge oppurtunity lost here to make the game more than just another good actiony shooter game.

Why can't someone feel parts of the game are going to be a disappointment without thinking "zomg the game is the suxxorzzz!!!"? <_<  I understand fanboys wanting to protect even the slightest hint that something may be wrong with the game.  That doesn't mean we actually are "out to get you".

[Nozybidaj]

javierabegazo wrote...
but I don't understand why you would include such generalizations in why you are underwhelmed about ME2.

Well, I've repeatedly made myself pretty clear.  If you don't get it, then I guess you don't get it.  Fair enough.  I find it hard to understand how some think everything is uncategorically "teh awsomest ever" about a game they have never played, so I guess the feeling of misunderstanding is mutual.  I suppose there isn't anything wrong with that. /shrug

[Bootsykk]

coppercondor wrote...

Nozybidaj wrote...

coppercondor wrote...

the OP is a huge stanky ballsack, prolly beats off to his romance scenes from the first game

Your opinion on the topic is clearly the pinnacle of insight and logic.  Thank you for your contribution, I honestly don't know what we would do without you.

Why thank you im glad I could sum up the the reason for the thread so no one had to ask why 

Now that's the other extreme.

For example, if you ever felt the slightest bit of remorse when your favorite character in a movie, book, video game, or show died, then you obviously jacked off to them.

I mean, sex is the only reason anyone could get emotionally attatched to a character, clearly.

[solvill]

Back to topic i think and i even read somewhere that it will be possible that we will get Liara/SB DLC

[javierabegazo]

NO, ME1 LI's will NEVER be DLC squad members. The whole point of keeping them unrecruitable in ME2 was to make sure there was no possible way they could die in ME2.



They won't ever be DLC solvill

[jakl201]

javierabegazo wrote...

NO, ME1 LI's will NEVER be DLC squad members. The whole point of keeping them unrecruitable in ME2 was to make sure there was no possible way they could die in ME2.

They won't ever be DLC solvill

Yup. You'll probably get to have a booty call with them or something, but they won't be a part of your group.

[Nozybidaj]

Kane-Corr wrote...
 But then again, you will probably be the MOST surprised by these characters once you get to know them.

Isn't Bioware brilliant?

I suppose it is not outside the realm of all things possible. 

I don't see it happening though.  Grunt and Thane could win me over from disintrest to liking them fairly easily.  Miranda would have to be a flat out amazing character beyond anything I think BW is going to actually do with her though for that to happen.  There are a few circumstances where I could see Miranda growing on me, but I don't think that is a direction BW is going to take the character.

SuZe, no way, just the fact that she can't get through a single sentence without using multiple expletives just makes it far too hard to take her seriously.  I understand she is supposed to be "hip and edgy" and I have no real hang ups about cursing in general, but when the cursing is done soley for the sake of cursing and serves as the main driving force behind her "hip and edgy" attitude it just comes off as childish (yes I broke down and watched some SuZe spoilers just to stave off my desire to watch the Tali ones ).

[Kane-Corr]

And heres another thing....say the Devs DO make the LI's from the first game a cameo role in the third, whats to say there role isn't big in that game, or maybe even complex....I wouldn't rule out Biowares decisions. They haven't forgotten about these characters at all.

[solvill]

javierabegazo wrote...

NO, ME1 LI's will NEVER be DLC squad members. The whole point of keeping them unrecruitable in ME2 was to make sure there was no possible way they could die in ME2.

They won't ever be DLC solvill

I know that stuff about suicide mission but DLC except the day 1 DLC will take place after that right?? at least this is how i understood that
and i was thinking about mission some extra dialog not recruiting them
we still don't know what devs are planning for ME 3

[Mox Ruuga]

javierabegazo wrote...

NO, ME1 LI's will NEVER be DLC squad members. The whole point of keeping them unrecruitable in ME2 was to make sure there was no possible way they could die in ME2.

They won't ever be DLC solvill

Some people keep clinging to that "they'll have major roles in ME3" line like it's word from God. Forget about it! I anticipate more catering to the Tali freaks, but that's about it. Otherwise it'll be a new squad in ME3. Not that you won't love whatever it is that Bioware does, javier.

I do agree with you that we won't be seeing a Liara DLC. Unless the negative reaction after the release about the cutting of f/f romances and the ME1 LIs is much bigger and more hostile than I anticipate...

[Mox Ruuga]

Maviarab wrote...

You never know....they have stated that cheating on said LI from ME1 in ME2 will have dire consequences in ME3.....maybe if you dont cheat you get to live happy ever after with said LI from ME1....

Who knows, be gratfeul its there at all, anything could happen in ME3 yet as far as we are concerned....

"Dire" consequences? Lol, I think they just said consequences. Which means a cold shoulder, instead of a lukewarm kiss or something.

Garrus and Tali were given the preferential treatment. Expect that to continue, no matter what "just wait till ME3" line the devs may try to feed you.

[Nozybidaj]

Mox Ruuga wrote...

Maviarab wrote...

You never know....they have stated that cheating on said LI from ME1 in ME2 will have dire consequences in ME3.....maybe if you dont cheat you get to live happy ever after with said LI from ME1....

Who knows, be gratfeul its there at all, anything could happen in ME3 yet as far as we are concerned....

"Dire" consequences? Lol, I think they just said consequences. Which means a cold shoulder, instead of a lukewarm kiss or something.

Garrus and Tali were given the preferential treatment. Expect that to continue, no matter what "just wait till ME3" line the devs may try to feed you.

Yeah, I'm not reassured at all of any involved role in ME3, nor do I expect any "dire" consequences.  If our major choice of having a LI in ME1 amounts to a handshake and a pat on the butt in ME2, I don't expect "cheating" to have any more consequence in ME3 other than a cold shoulder for a convo or two then back to business.  I also don't expect them to amount to anything more in ME3 than they do in ME2, it would be silly to expect otherwise, not to mention making the final act feel very contrived.

[Mox Ruuga]

Nozybidaj wrote...

Yeah, I'm not reassured at all of any involved role in ME3, nor do I expect any "dire" consequences.  If our major choice of having a LI in ME1 amounts to a handshake and a pat on the butt in ME2, I don't expect "cheating" to have any more consequence in ME3 other than a cold shoulder for a convo or two then back to business.  I also don't expect them to amount to anything more in ME3 than they do in ME2, it would be silly to expect otherwise, not to mention making the final act feel very contrived.

True. Who knows just how big of a time jump there is between the end of ME2 and 3 anyway? In real life, it will have been 4 to 5 years. Might be the same two year jump in game time as well. Most of the new core audience won't care about people from the old game they never played. And Bioware, judging from how they handled ME2, won't go to the effort of adding something that might confuse the poor noobs. In fact, the ME2 squad faces that dilemma for the new generation of shooter fans entering the fandom in ME3.

Thus I predict that Tali will be the only character to remain a squaddie throughout all three games, Bioware wouldn't want to upset her fans, would they?

My least favorite of the old squad. Figures.

[Nozybidaj]

Mox Ruuga wrote...

Thus I predict that Tali will be the only character to remain a squaddie throughout all three games, Bioware wouldn't want to upset her fans, would they?

My least favorite of the old squad. Figures.

Well, I like Tali, she was always my favorite and went back and played a single MaleShep just so I could have glorius Talimance in ME2.  That at least makes me happy.

[fortunesque]

I'm upset about what I've seen as well.



I was angry about them not being squadmates initially. But then I thought, "Well, I'll give it a chance. It can't be so bad."



No, their role is absolutely miniscule.



Excuse me if I don't trust the developer that said that if we don't like what they did with the romances that we were 'acceptable losses'.



So you give the people that whined about not having a Tali/Garrus romance what they want and those that were CONTENT with what they had and LIKED what the romance options were in the first game get the shaft.



Count me as an "acceptable loss", then. I'm not going to trust someone's word that things will be better in two years when the third game comes out.

[phlying]

I was actually kind of hoping that an expanded ME1 LI role DLC was in the works. All the people I know who've played the game are really looking forward to that particular aspect of Mass Effect and seeing some of these minor spoilers, I'm starting to lose some of my excitement over the game.



There's all this talk about being able to play the game after you survive the suicide mission so I'm kind of hoping that you get a nice, happy snuggle scene with your ME1 LI if you choose to go back and visit them after the big throw down. It'd be epic.

[fortunesque]

phlying wrote...

I was actually kind of hoping that an expanded ME1 LI role DLC was in the works. All the people I know who've played the game are really looking forward to that particular aspect of Mass Effect and seeing some of these minor spoilers, I'm starting to lose some of my excitement over the game.

There's all this talk about being able to play the game after you survive the suicide mission so I'm kind of hoping that you get a nice, happy snuggle scene with your ME1 LI if you choose to go back and visit them after the big throw down. It'd be epic.

It'd be nice, but I wouldn't count on it.

Why would they give a bigger role to three characters they've already sidelined?

More importantly, they've stressed that if someone hasn't played the first game, they want to avoid confusing those people.

I just don't see how they would be able to 'not confuse' people (which is BS in my mind) if they suddenly gave us DLC about 'that person that I talked to for about a minute'.

[phlying]

fortunesque wrote...

It'd be nice, but I wouldn't count on it.

Why would they give a bigger role to three characters they've already sidelined?

More importantly, they've stressed that if someone hasn't played the first game, they want to avoid confusing those people.

I just don't see how they would be able to 'not confuse' people (which is BS in my mind) if they suddenly gave us DLC about 'that person that I talked to for about a minute'.

Well, isn't that the thing with DLC? It's optional content. You don't have to purchase it if you don't feel like you'd enjoy the experience. I held off on getting Pinnacle Station until just last night because I didn't honestly think some stupid fight club was worth my time. 

If the ME1 LI doesn't pertain to a new player, then they don't NEED to download the content, but Bioware should have considered giving all of us who aren't planning on cheating on our ME LI a pat on the back with some DLC lovin'.

[Mox Ruuga]

Nozybidaj wrote...


Well, I like Tali, she was always my favorite and went back and played a single MaleShep just so I could have glorius Talimance in ME2.  That at least makes me happy.

Well, for whatever it's worth, good for you (and I do mean that in a non sarcastic, non cynical manner). At least one of us will have a personal favorite with them the whole trilogy. IF they don't just relegate Tali to the cold shoulder/lukewark kiss mode for ME3. Could very well happen.

As for me... Well, I don't see my favorites Wrex, Liara, or Ash returning. Or even Kaidan, whom I always liked.

[fortunesque]

phlying wrote...

fortunesque wrote...

It'd be nice, but I wouldn't count on it.

Why would they give a bigger role to three characters they've already sidelined?

More importantly, they've stressed that if someone hasn't played the first game, they want to avoid confusing those people.

I just don't see how they would be able to 'not confuse' people (which is BS in my mind) if they suddenly gave us DLC about 'that person that I talked to for about a minute'.

Well, isn't that the thing with DLC? It's optional content. You don't have to purchase it if you don't feel like you'd enjoy the experience. I held off on getting Pinnacle Station until just last night because I didn't honestly think some stupid fight club was worth my time. 

If the ME1 LI doesn't pertain to a new player, then they don't NEED to download the content, but Bioware should have considered giving all of us who aren't planning on cheating on our ME LI a pat on the back with some DLC lovin'.

I hope you're right. But at the moment, I don't trust them.

[Nozybidaj]

Mox Ruuga wrote...

Nozybidaj wrote...


Well, I like Tali, she was always my favorite and went back and played a single MaleShep just so I could have glorius Talimance in ME2.  That at least makes me happy.

Well, for whatever it's worth, good for you (and I do mean that in a non sarcastic, non cynical manner). At least one of us will have a personal favorite with them the whole trilogy. IF they don't just relegate Tali to the cold shoulder/lukewark kiss mode for ME3. Could very well happen.

As for me... Well, I don't see my favorites Wrex, Liara, or Ash returning. Or even Kaidan, whom I always liked.

Well, I don't expect Tali to be back for ME3, so I figure I'll enjoy it while I can.

[MICHELLE7]

phlying wrote...

fortunesque wrote...

It'd be nice, but I wouldn't count on it.

Why would they give a bigger role to three characters they've already sidelined?

More importantly, they've stressed that if someone hasn't played the first game, they want to avoid confusing those people.

I just don't see how they would be able to 'not confuse' people (which is BS in my mind) if they suddenly gave us DLC about 'that person that I talked to for about a minute'.

Well, isn't that the thing with DLC? It's optional content. You don't have to purchase it if you don't feel like you'd enjoy the experience. I held off on getting Pinnacle Station until just last night because I didn't honestly think some stupid fight club was worth my time. 

If the ME1 LI doesn't pertain to a new player, then they don't NEED to download the content, but Bioware should have considered giving all of us who aren't planning on cheating on our ME LI a pat on the back with some DLC lovin'.

I think that giving the people who are staying loyal to their LI a DLC to continue the relationship after the main quest  would be the nicest thing Bioware could do for us. Would probably go a long way to smooth over some of the ruffled feathers about the subject. I know it'd make me happier.