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AngryFrozenWater wrote...

robedlizard wrote...

AngryFrozenWater wrote...

robedlizard wrote...

AngryFrozenWater wrote...




There is no use to attach yourself to LIs and squad members. Just use them as canon fodder. This is no trilogy, unless you consider 3 independent franchise titles to be one.





get out of here troll
your no ones LI
:devil:

Idea for a next post: Use the keywords "whine", "assumption" and "complaint" in it. They seem to be popular here.


i havnt whined about anything
ive told a troll to get out of here cuz thats obvious what you are by youre comment sometime ago as to start  antagonizing other people on the
internet this can result in banning.

I didn't say you were whining. I gave you a tip.



its the forum everyone can "whine", "assumption" and "complaint"
but ME is a trilogy just like
Star Wars
Lord of the Rings
which are the BIG triliogies.

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robedlizard wrote...
but ME is a trilogy just like
Star Wars
Lord of the Rings
which are the BIG triliogies.


That is more than just a little bit debatable.  In fact i'd say it is rather NOT like them.

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Nozybidaj wrote...

robedlizard wrote...
but ME is a trilogy just like
Star Wars
Lord of the Rings
which are the BIG triliogies.


That is more than just a little bit debatable.  In fact i'd say it is rather NOT like them.


of course its not like them in the sence that it not a movie but a video game
it has three parts. ME1 ME2 ME3
but ME is none the less a triliogy and in my own opinion is one of the best
because the decissions you made in ME1 carry over to ME2 and what you do in ME1 and ME2 will  also effect in the long run into ME3
and im saying this again my opinion.

Fact though is Mass Effect will be a triliogy.

Modifié par robedlizard, 22 janvier 2010 - 10:09 .


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thompsonaf

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Jesus christ.



Mass Effect =/= Dating Sim. Get over yourself.

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I was extremely disappointed when I heard that our old LI's weren't coming back, and when I heard the dev in one of CES interviews stating that they were thinking of a new crew for ME3 my heart sank even more...

At this point I agree with Dink and the others, a large unified forum spamming in the coming months may be our best hope of getting our original LI's to return in ME3.

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Yes, I think all Mass Effect fans and Veterans were upset about it, but even though they roles are reduced....I think I'm going to like this crew just the same.

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It's good to know that event he non-fanatics are pissed. Seriously, dropping the ball will come down to haunt them. Let the rage begin

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Youre right Shavon, but I guess in a way its not at all surprising. They made a decision just like the rest of us, and took the time to see it through in ME1, and after eagerly anticipating the game for two years, Bioware seem perfectly content to just let things get worse and worse on this subject.

We dont even know yet if they are being saved specifically FOR a squadmate role in ME3.

Its just "important stuff", which could be the same evasive crap they fed us throughout ME2s development, covering up another simple cameo role.

Modifié par Dinkamus_Littlelog, 22 janvier 2010 - 10:45 .


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I suggest a group being made, for at least the gathering of those interested in this being remedied and concerting all efforts should this li problem be as what is being speculated

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Dinkamus_Littlelog

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Already is one Here



I believe were the second most viewed group already....

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Marcus Aurelius

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Can I have permission to join lol

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Yeah, just PM Shavon, she runs the group. Dont worry, everyone here is really nice and loyal to eachother (well, mostly hehe)

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Just sent you a pm to make sure.

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Halfheart wrote...

I was extremely disappointed when I heard that our old LI's weren't coming back, and when I heard the dev in one of CES interviews stating that they were thinking of a new crew for ME3 my heart sank even more...
At this point I agree with Dink and the others, a large unified forum spamming in the coming months may be our best hope of getting our original LI's to return in ME3.


don't worry if they plan new crew for ME3 rage will start all ME2 Li lovers will take care of that
On some point i will be glad to see  all that people complaining now about our disapointment, how they will be feelling when MIranda or SuZe will not be recruitable

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solvill wrote...

don't worry if they plan new crew for ME3 rage will start all ME2 Li lovers will take care of that
On some point i will be glad to see  all that people complaining now about our disapointment, how they will be feelling when MIranda or SuZe will not be recruitable


So long as thats how it goes down... Ditto!

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Dinkamus_Littlelog wrote...

I think PissedOffIce makes a good point. The whole talk about the ME1 LIs and the ME2 squad suggests the characters are somewhat "expendable" in the overall trilogy. Why bother getting too attached if weve seen what it can lead to?

My own personal take will be to dispassionately move my way through their characters looking for the best possible outcome with zero "emotional engagement".

Hey Dink, hows it goin.

I still think that the ME2 squaddies value shouldnt relly on whether or not they have signifigant roles in ME3. The reason you can bother to get attched to them is to fully enjoy their characters for what they are. It pains me to see that you would go into what is going to be such an awesome game with a very negative attitude about one of its most key features.

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MajesticMoose wrote...

Hey Dink, hows it goin.

I still think that the ME2 squaddies value shouldnt relly on whether or not they have signifigant roles in ME3. The reason you can bother to get attched to them is to fully enjoy their characters for what they are. It pains me to see that you would go into what is going to be such an awesome game with a very negative attitude about one of its most key features.


Easy answer: Sadly every gamer must decide for themselves what is their most important aspect of the game.

For me in ME1 it was the squadmates, more specifically my favourites (though I did like them all). I expected new additions for sure, but didnt expect to see all of my favourites sidelined, with only Tali and Garrus returning. With what I have subsequently seen, heard and learnt about their role in ME2, I simply have no motivation to get attached to these new squadmates and expect to see them return significantly in ME3. Im not even convinced my "saved for ME3" favourite gets a squadmate role from here on out. ME1 squadmates made "Mass Effect" what it is for me. A cameo role like they are receiving just cant cut it. The game will feel empty without Wrex, Liara, Ash and Kaidan around to me.

Some folks dont like reloading in ME2. I couldnt care less to be honest. Combat isnt my concern in ME2. Just as characters, more specifically the ME1 LIs, arent certain others gamers concerns.

Dont know why it "pains" you, not that I find that offensive. I dont begrudge you enjoying the game, so dont worry about me being less than impressed. Mass Effect 2 looks like a good, high quality game. There are going to be disagreements however, and I hope ours will be heard this time and make ME1 LIs squadmates in ME3.

Modifié par Dinkamus_Littlelog, 22 janvier 2010 - 11:39 .


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The game seems to be great epic emotinally engaging ect. ect. blah blah

but as a part of trillogy sucks completely

all this talking about carry over saves etc whats the point ?? there is nothing ( maybe except Wrex) but the rest seriously ?!

Well if only ME 2 squad members returning in ME 3 i will kill as much as i can

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Geez guys OP is just asking a question, if you dont have a good thing to say... dont say it.

and OP I think we'll see, maybe a couple surprises are inbound who knows.

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I think a big problem that Bioware will have to seriously decide if they have the balls (and willingness to put in the effort) by Mass Effect 3 is this: is it worth dedicating time, resources, and energy to characters that could have died in the previous game? They go on and on about how the trilogy is supposed to evolve into a uniquely divergent storyline by the final game, but I have my doubts. Wrex was shunted out of the team because he could have died (though I'm actually happy with how this turned out), and both Kaiden and Ashley were downgraded to cameo appearances for a similar reason. Liara just happened to get dragged down with them to make it more fair.



So what does this mean for the next game, where everyone from this title has a chance to die? There will obviously now be room for Kaiden/Ashley and Liara to return, and even a possibility of Wrex coming back. But what of all the new characters from this game? Will they be taken out of the limelight just because they might have died? Would it be considered a "waste" to give them important roles for this reason? Isn't the point of Mass Effect to deal with the consequences of your actions, good and bad?



Obviously it's way too early to be discussing the ramifications of ME2's events on its eventual sequel, but it does make me a bit ill at ease to think about it.

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Ailith430 wrote...

**Potential spoilers**

After watching a streamed play through of the beginning of Illium, it looks like Liara plays a mildly bigger role than just a cameo. They aren't on your crew, and they don't come along with you on your ship, so how big could their role be?

And I think it alternates who gets captured by the Collectors (Ashley/Kaiden) depending on who made it off Virmire.

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the OP is a huge stanky ballsack, prolly beats off to his romance scenes from the first game

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coppercondor wrote...

the OP is a huge stanky ballsack, prolly beats off to his romance scenes from the first game


Your opinion on the topic is clearly the pinnacle of insight and logic.  Thank you for your contribution, I honestly don't know what we would do without you.

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Dinkamus_Littlelog wrote...

Shady314 wrote...

How do you ignore yourself? :blink:


Please, do try and be less predictable.

Yes thats right, Im a whining fanboy who is criticising the game for lacklustre carrying over of decisions from ME1.

That makes me a fanboy of what precisely?


Of making a game catered just to your interests. Guess what? Bioware can't please everyone-- it's not possible yet. Now, I do know what you fear about the ME1 LIs because, yeah, I wanted to see Liara in ME2 quite prominently, but oh well. Simple thing is, you come off overly harsh, almost trolling, with some of your wording and phrasing.

With that said, I do side with you in disappointment with the lack of love interest involvement... but I don't think it's quite as dismal as you make it seem. I believe ME3 will feature them much more, because if it didn't, then why bother saving the characters for that game?

The characters we should be concerned about are the ME2 party members. If they all can die... then that means none-- or very few of them-- would have major roles in the third installment. Bioware also probably doesn't want to give too much away about the involvement of prior main characters. I think Ashley/Kaiden will be important when rescuing humans from the Collectors. Personally, I'd wait to play the game first before deciding how much more BW should've put the characters in.

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Nozybidaj wrote...

coppercondor wrote...

the OP is a huge stanky ballsack, prolly beats off to his romance scenes from the first game


Your opinion on the topic is clearly the pinnacle of insight and logic.  Thank you for your contribution, I honestly don't know what we would do without you.



Why thank you im glad I could sum up the the reason for the thread so no one had to ask why :lol: