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#176
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Dr. Chakwas - this character was wasted. She should have had more lines.... "working on some files." Can Shepard ever talk about the nightmares with anyone?

 

Besides Liara and (for me) Tali?



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The problem with the volus is that unless he operates on Irune or some other environment that's compatible with his physiology, he's going to instantly give away the fact that he's a volus.

 

This is *ssssfffffffff* the Shadow Broker. I will be expecting *ssssffffffffff* reports on the STG incursion on the Blue Suns *sssssfffffffff* by second *sssssfffffff* rotation.

How hard would it be for the volus to speak to a drone that can translate the wording so he won't be known as a volus? Or type out what he wants to say without the 'sssssffffff' ?



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How hard would it be for the volus to speak to a drone that can translate the wording so he won't be known as a volus? Or type out what he wants to say without the 'sssssffffff' ?

Insert reference to "The Castle Arrrrrgh."
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The BSN might be to blame for that. In the aftermath of the first script leak people were complaining about Liara being a writer's pet.

 

In the original script much of Traynor's intel gathering content was written for Liara. At some point between that first script leak and the game's release that content was shifted from Liara to Traynor. It does make me wonder how much of an impact the complaint threads might have had on script rewrites after that first leak.

 

If BSN bitchfests were the reason for the shift of content from Liara to Traynor it would be quite ironic, because the same people who complained about Liara getting too much content in that original script now complain that she doesn't do enough as Shadowbroker. It would be like a repeat of the whole Mako fiasco, where people griped endlessly about it, and then complained when it didn't return in ME2.

 

Oh wow, I hope that isn't the case. That would be really pathetic.



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I still like how the ship lost its psychiatrist just as it needed one more than ever



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The Krogan birth rate... seriously? You want to cure the genophage? lol. Yeah, with the Asari in attendance she might have mentioned the fact that the only thing that was keeping Wrex in power was the fact that Urdnot controlled the fertile females, and that a full cure would undermine his power base. "Perhaps a compromise of an increase in the fertility rate would be more appropriate. Besides, it still takes a few decades for a krogan to reach maturity to fight and this war might not last that long." 

 

Wrex: "Hmmm. You're right. The other clan leaders might just return to the old ways. Okay, I'll accept your offer."

Didn't Wrex say in ME2 that a lot of the other clans liked that he was trying to unite the krogan? I mean, if Wrex only had all the other clans' support because he was holding the females hostage, they wouldn't have stood for it. They would have stomped him flat. Not to mention the females probably wouldn't have allowed themselves to be used in such a way.



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If they couldn't make Traynor relevant without stealing content from one character perhaps they shouldn't have had her in the first place....

 

 

and that is, for the record, the nicest thing I will say about Liara



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If they couldn't make Traynor relevant without stealing content from one character perhaps they shouldn't have had her in the first place....

 

 

and that is, for the record, the nicest thing I will say about Liara

Her role in the plot without that lifted content would have been "token lesbian love interest," and they couldn't have Steve without her.

 

Don't get me wrong, her Citadel content (minus the awkward hot-tub scene with anyone who didn't romance her) was hilarious; that's simply the reality of it.


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Could they not figure out a way to make her work? She couldn't be a co-pilot, medical assistant, cook, mechanic, engineer, replacement psychiatrist?
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#185
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Could they not figure out a way to make her work? She couldn't be a co-pilot, medical assistant, cook, mechanic, engineer, replacement psychiatrist?

Positions already taken by EDI, Dr. Michel, Mess Sergeant Gardner (wherever he may be), Tali/Adams/Ken/Gabby, and Kelly.

 

Could have been, probably should have been. Have her be the logistics procurement person and make Cortez focus exclusively on piloting, maybe? Oh well. We'll just go with Not-Kelly. It worked for Joker. :D


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#186
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Traynor is a much better Kelly than Kelly could ever hope to be.


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Traynor is a much better Kelly than Kelly could ever hope to be.

 

*gasp*



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Traynor is a much better Kelly than Kelly could ever hope to be.

 

I agree. I didn't like Kelly in ME2, and I worried that Traynor would be more of the same, but she was a nice addition to the team. She was actually helpful, seemed to do a lot more work than Kelly, and turned out to be someone that my Shepard considers a friend. 

 

I think Liara's focus should have been on the Crucible, personally. She's the prothean expert, and as the Shadow Broker she might be able to gather more resources for its construction. It makes sense that Traynor's work was the stuff that involved using the Normandy's systems. 


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I think Liara's focus should have been on the Crucible, personally.

 

Technically, it was, since some of her commentary in her cabin involves crunching numbers and studying the device. Problem is, some would not have been satisfied until Liara was off the ship entirely and was sent off to the Crucible construction site for the remainder of the game. I for one am glad BioWare didn't go ahead and do that.



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Technically, it was, since some of her commentary in her cabin involves crunching numbers and studying the device. Problem is, some would not have been satisfied until Liara was off the ship entirely and was sent off to the Crucible construction site for the remainder of the game. I for one am glad BioWare didn't go ahead and do that.

 

My idea would have been to have that option for most squadmates from the past two games - either have them on the Normandy or working on something else to help the war effort, like the choice we have with the Virmire survivor, and build our team that way. 

 

But yeah, it's good that they did show her studying the Crucible a few times. I don't think most of what Traynor's job involves would be something the Shadow Broker has to do though, so if it was that way in the original script, it makes more sense to me that they changed it. 



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Pretty much. Still not as bad as what they did to Rannoch, but just about everything Mordin argued in ME2 went out the window. The only remaining advocates for the genophage in ME3 are a shrill racist Shepard is railroaded into fighting with in the summit and a short-lived STG operative who only shows up if Kirrahe is dead (Tolan doesn't bow down before The Shepard, which to some on these boards is a nigh-capital offense in itself).

 

That's the problem with ME3 all around. They removed the shades of grey by making anyone on the "wrong" side into idiots or lunatics. Don't even get me started on the Rannoch arc.


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#192
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T'soni should've been sent to Hackett right after Mars. She had no reason to be on the Normandy. Had they kept her with whatever they gave to Traynor, she would've been more of idiot then we already knew. Thessia proves she is not the Prothean expert we're led to believe. She is very crappy when it comes to information. With Traynor she doesn't have to pretend to be something she's not. She is very intelligent and fits her role perfectly using her skill and training to find Grissom and the Ceberus scientists


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#193
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T'soni should've been sent to Hackett right after Mars. She had no reason to be on the Normandy. Had they kept her with whatever they gave to Traynor, she would've been more of idiot then we already knew. Thessia proves she is not the Prothean expert we're led to believe. She is very crappy when it comes to information. With Traynor she doesn't have to pretend to be something she's not. She is very intelligent and fits her role perfectly using her skill and training to find Grissom and the Ceberus scientists

 

If you're going to take that stance then most of the squad have no reason to be on the Normandy. I mean wouldn't Tali be better served coordinating things on Rannoch? Wouldn't Garrus be better working with Victus? Neither of them fill any purpose once their respective arc is over with.

 

Methinks you may be slightly clouded by your hatred here. Liara DOES serve a role. If you killed Kaiden and don't have access to Javik then she's the only biotic you have on the team.



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If you're going to take that stance then most of the squad have no reason to be on the Normandy. I mean wouldn't Tali be better served coordinating things on Rannoch? Wouldn't Garrus be better working with Victus? Neither of them fill any purpose once their respective arc is over with.

 

Methinks you may be slightly clouded by your hatred here.

Garrus offers nothing in the game. Not sure why he's on the Normandy at all at least in an ME3 default playthrough. Most of my playthroughs he's dead. Tali I either don't recruit her or she's dead in ME2. It was silly to make her an Admiral. And having her as a requirement to get peace I don't agree with.

 

With T'soni, there should've been a choice to either send her to Hackett if she's going to help with the crucible or if she wants to be a squadmate then that's al  she does. Sending her to Hackett would've given war assets just like sending Ashley/Kaidan to Hackett.



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If you're going to take that stance then most of the squad have no reason to be on the Normandy. I mean wouldn't Tali be better served coordinating things on Rannoch? Wouldn't Garrus be better working with Victus? Neither of them fill any purpose once their respective arc is over with.

 

Methinks you may be slightly clouded by your hatred here.

 

He's anything but unbiased but the relationship between plot relevance and squadmate candidacy is an interesting one. On one hand you'd think being relevant to the plot entitles a character to be around more. But on the other hand the Normandy is just one ship, running ground missions behind enemy lines. Having every VIP onboard makes no sense at all.

 

I think the ideal squadmates carry a balance. They're important to the plot by possessing relevant information or skills but they're not important people in-universe. Liara is (supposed to be) an important person in-universe. Perhaps one of the most important given what the Shadow Broker is supposed to be. That trumps her skills (good biotic). She should be in a Hackett-like role, providing information and quests. Someone like Tali on the other hand, already has natural skills, information and insight into her respective area of the plot. But she's not an important person (the token admiral thing is stupid and does nothing). She can be a squadmate just fine.

 

Once you run out of people who fit that balance I think taking from the "insignificant" side is better practice because it's always easier to add something where they are relevant and useful as opposed to justifying why a VIP joins you in a firefight on planet Bumblefuck, which is just illogical.


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I too will say ME3 Geth.  I'm all for fleshing out prior villains, but dear lord the level of Pinocchioness on Rannoch was off the chart.  I guess on paper they wanted to expand the ME2 Geth, which were really interesting, and give them more personality.  But the method was atrocious.  Come ME3 they become poor little victims who needed the magical reaper fairy code to become real boys.



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Garrus offers nothing in the game. Not sure why he's on the Normandy at all at least in an ME3 default playthrough. Most of my playthroughs he's dead. Tali I either don't recruit her or she's dead in ME2. It was silly to make her an Admiral. And having her as a requirement to get peace I don't agree with.

 

With T'soni, there should've been a choice to either send her to Hackett if she's going to help with the crucible or if she wants to be a squadmate then that's al  she does. Sending her to Hackett would've given war assets just like sending Ashley/Kaidan to Hackett.

The only squadmate that offeres anything in ME2 is Mordin. 

Garrus is easily the best squadmate. High firepower and overload, concussive shot, and his ammo are really useful. 

Admittedly, Tali doesn't make a lot of sense as an admiral, but maybe she represents the Migrant Fleet Marines. Gerrel has the Heavy Fleet, Raan has the Patrol Fleet, Koris has the Civilian Fleet, Xen has R&D, and Tali has the Marines. 

And having three fellow admirals yelling at you to stop your attack is a good reason to stop it. 



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The only squadmate that offeres anything in ME2 is Mordin. 

Garrus is easily the best squadmate. High firepower and overload, concussive shot, and his ammo are really useful. 

Admittedly, Tali doesn't make a lot of sense as an admiral, but maybe she represents the Migrant Fleet Marines. Gerrel has the Heavy Fleet, Raan has the Patrol Fleet, Koris has the Civilian Fleet, Xen has R&D, and Tali has the Marines. 

And having three fellow admirals yelling at you to stop your attack is a good reason to stop it. 

I like Mordin. I saw no reason for him to die if you choose to cure the genophage. Why couldn't that panel be on the bottom instead of at the top of the shroud?

 

Garrus is not the best squadmate. He was ok in ME2, but he turned into a wet noodle in ME3. I will stick with Ashley and James.

 

The Admirals wouldn't have to shout if they didn't attack the Geth in the first place while there is a galactic invasion going on.



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I like Mordin. I saw no reason for him to die if you choose to cure the genophage. Why couldn't that panel be on the bottom instead of at the top of the shroud?

 

Garrus is not the best squadmate. He was ok in ME2, but he turned into a wet noodle in ME3. I will stick with Ashley and James.

 

The Admirals wouldn't have to shout if they didn't attack the Geth in the first place while there is a galactic invasion going on.

 

Garrus is pretty comparable to Ashley, they both get the same weapons' damage bonuses and an ammo power. Out of the two the Armor Piercing is probably the more useful, especially if they have the squad evolution for Shepard. Proximity Mine (w/ the Damage Vulnerability evolution) and Overload vs Ashley's Inferno Grenades probably depends on class as for which is the more useful.



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Garrus is pretty comparable to Ashley, they both get the same weapons' damage bonuses and an ammo power. Out of the two the Armor Piercing is probably the more useful, especially if they have the squad evolution for Shepard. Proximity Mine (w/ the Damage Vulnerability evolution) and Overload vs Ashley's Inferno Grenades probably depends on class as for which is the more useful.

On the Ceberus scientists mission I had both Garrus and Ashley with me. Both had a level 10 particle rifle and a level 10 Black Widow. I was playing on hardcore.

 

At the part where the big door opens and you move forward to fight the Cerberus troopers, for some reason I was a litle slow in moving causing the door to shut in front of me while the squadmates moved forward. I had 8 medigels with me. I couldn't do nothing. Ashley ended up killing some while Garrus kept dying. It was only after I ran out of medigel and Ashley was killed that I reloaded the game. With that she can take more punishment than Garrus. I also notice he is not very good with the Black Widow, so I just have use an assault rifle.