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So... finished Asunder... ((spoilers within))


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#351
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Really? We don't know what Jeanot was doing before he strolled in there and attempted to burn the Divine to a crisp.

 

I thought the Divine set that up? Or was it something else?


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I thought the Divine set that up? Or was it something else?

 

According to some text from Masked Empire it was Celene's idea she attend.



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According to some text from Masked Empire it was Celene's idea she attend.

 

Did the Divine know it was going to happen? I remember reading something in Asunder distinctly about the Divine and that event, how there was more to it than we knew at the beginning. It's going to drive me nuts :wacko:


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Did the Divine know it was going to happen? I remember reading something in Asunder distinctly about the Divine and that event, how there was more to it than we knew at the beginning. It's going to drive me nuts :wacko:

No, no one knew what would occur. But it was still Celene's idea that the Divine should attend the ball. She suggested it to Justinia through a redheaded messenger.



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No, no one knew what would occur. But it was still Celene's idea that the Divine should attend the ball.

Which does imply her complicity, although it doesn't confirm it.



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Which does imply her complicity, although it doesn't confirm it.

Possibly. But from I read, there would be no reason to engineer a fiasco like this, particularly when the two appear to have a pretty decent working relationship.



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Possibly. But from I read, there would be no reason to engineer a fiasco like this, particularly when the two appear to have a pretty decent working relationship.

 

Lots of reasons, Indirect or direct.

 

We don't know enough of their relationship or her position on the Chantry or Mage issue to really comment.



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Lots of reasons, Indirect or direct.

 

We don't know enough of their relationship or her position on the Chantry or Mage issue to really comment.

I read a crap ton of that preview, about 150 pages. Celene looked like she wanted compromise above all, and would much rather avoid a war between mages and templars.



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Possibly. But from I read, there would be no reason to engineer a fiasco like this, particularly when the two appear to have a pretty decent working relationship.

Not to mention the bloodshed.  While I'm sure that Celene and the Divine both are not adverse to using violence if needed, they aren't exactly the bloodthirsty types.  Plus, it just seemed too sloppy for the Empress of Orlais.  Everyone can have their "off" moments, but that seems too tactically unsound for her.

 

However, if a certain red haired mage was sending the word out and ended up orchestrating the whole assassination attempt?  Now you're talking.


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Not to mention the bloodshed.  While I'm sure that Celene and the Divine both are not adverse to using violence if needed, they aren't exactly the bloodthirsty types.  Plus, it just seemed too sloppy for the Empress of Orlais.  Everyone can have their "off" moments, but that seems too tactically unsound for her.

 

However, if a certain red haired mage was sending the word out and ended up orchestrating the whole assassination attempt? Now you're talking.

:angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry:


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:angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry:

Was that in disagreement or agreement with my post?



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I read a crap ton of that preview, about 150 pages. Celene looked like she wanted compromise above all, and would much rather avoid a war between mages and templars.

 

Hence the whole pushing for the Ball where the Divine was nearly assassinated, either she was pushing from beyond the scenes, or perhaps her elven harlot either way some one in the Imperial Court was pushing for things to go to pieces in this issue, some one who could put the idea into the Empresses head, some one who could get an assassin into spitting range within of the Divine and enough to make it not blow back in their direction.

 

Clout, Position, Authority and Intelligence.

 

I merely acknowledge it could be Celene, i am not directing anything but possible conjecture her way thus far.



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Was that in disagreement or agreement with my post?

 

Elu hates Adrian lol


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Elu hates Adrian lol

Gotcha.


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Was that in disagreement or agreement with my post?

Hatred of Adrian, that's all.



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Elven harlot...really, Z?



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I think she's a far more likely candidate behind that attack rather than Celene.  It was shown she will not hesitate to thrown anyone under a bus if she thinks it's needed.

 

 

Elven harlot...really, Z?

 

He's trying to bait you with that remark, so just let that one slide.


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Elven harlot...really, Z?

 

What else do you call the reason the Empress didn't marry?

 

A reason that by the way isn't a official consort or even concubine.



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What else do you call the reason the Empress didn't marry?

 

A reason that by the way isn't a official consort or even concubine.

 

Her lover.....?


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Her lover.....?

 

Exactly :P



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Her lover.....?

 

Why not marry the lover?



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Why not marry the lover?

 

Elf, Female and low born.

 

Three good reasons just off the top of my head :P



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Why not marry the lover?

The elven thing. The Orlesians would lose their damned minds if she did that. If it was a human woman, I don't even think they'd bat an eyelash.



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If it was a human woman,

 

People would still expect an Heir.

 

._. You keep the consorts for the pleasure house, not the Throne.



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People would still expect an Heir.

 

._. You keep the consorts for the pleasure house, not the Throne.

 

Unfortunately, yeah.


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