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[Grieving Natashina]

I always leave out important small words...

<hugs> S'okay.  I'm just really quick with my editing most of the time, but it happens to me a lot too.  

[Steelcan]

<hugs> S'okay.  I'm just really quick with my editing most of the time, but it happens to me a lot too.  

what is this editing you speak of?

[Grieving Natashina]

what is this editing you speak of?

Whatever do you mean?  And who is Cole?  

[Steelcan]

Whatever do you mean?  And who is Cole?  

As far as I know he is just a ghost boy, which make me think of the Catalyst

[Zazzerka]

As far as I know he is just a ghost boy, which make me think of the Catalyst

 

The joke.

 

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Your head.

[Steelcan]

The joke.

 

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Your head.

 

"I really need to read this book"

 

-me, like half an hour ago

[Zazzerka]

"I really need to read this book"

 

-me, like half an hour ago

 

I actually preferred The Stolen Throne, but that's only because the BSN has worn me out when it comes to the Mage-Templar conflict.

[Steelcan]

I have yet to read any EU material for either DA or ME, I usually just look up synopses

[Zazzerka]

Books are certainly inefficient as a means of transferring information.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Books are certainly inefficient as a means of transferring information.

Indeed. Once we get cyberbrains, we can just upload all the information immediately. 

[Grieving Natashina]

I have yet to read any EU material for either DA or ME, I usually just look up synopses

Before I go crash, I should recommend the EU for DA.  Asunder was really good and I like the style of WoT.  I plan on getting The Calling, Stolen Throne, and Masked Empire as well.  I read awhile back that the graphic novel version of the comics will be available in June.  I don't like reading much EU in other universes, and frankly because Blizzard abused that too much with World of Warcraft.   I like supplementary material, but I start to hate it when I have to read it in order to understand the sodding plot.  Plus their authors are all over the board in competence.

 

Ahem, excuse me. Yes, I am a little bitter.  Why do you ask?  

 

In the case of the DA EU however, I've heard that while some of the stories are a little weaker than others, all of it is pretty damned good for the most part.

[bairdduvessa]

Indeed. Once we get cyberbrains, we can just upload all the information immediately. 

as long as no one hacks our ghost

[Hanako Ikezawa]

as long as no one hacks our ghost

You sir get a like for getting the reference. Well done sir.

[Master Warder Z]

You sir get a like for getting the reference. Well done sir.

 

I will obviously assume the role of Goda then.

[GVulture]

As far as DA EU stuff goes, I recommend Asunder > the comics > The Stolen Throne > The Calling. That's in order of importance and the ability to get through it easily. For some reason, The Calling dragged with me and TST took awhile but once I got into it I blasted through. The comics are all excellent but get ranked lower due to the level of importance I think they might bring to later story lines.

 

Of course, The Masked Empire goes in there somewhere, but until I read it I can't rank it.

 

 

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I will obviously assume the role of Goda then.

You mean Gouda? 

[Wolfen09]

this is no time for fancy cheeses!

[Former_Fiend]

I'm sure this has been stated dozens of times by now, but without the templars and the seekers acting as muscle, the Chantry controls precisely Jack and sh*t, and Jack's converted to the Qun.

 

It's not like the dwarves are working on an honor system or are living in fear of revered mothers rapping their knuckles. Without the templars to enforce the limits on the lyrium trade, those limits no longer exist.

 

I imagine regaining control of the lyrium trade may well be a major quest in DAI.

[wcholcombe]

I'm sure this has been stated dozens of times by now, but without the templars and the seekers acting as muscle, the Chantry controls precisely Jack and sh*t, and Jack's converted to the Qun.

 

It's not like the dwarves are working on an honor system or are living in fear of revered mothers rapping their knuckles. Without the templars to enforce the limits on the lyrium trade, those limits no longer exist.

 

I imagine regaining control of the lyrium trade may well be a major quest in DAI.

Yeah the whole 75% of the surface population being Chantry faithful ready to mount a new Exalted March at a moments notice, doesn't give the Chantry any control....

 

I am routinely amazed that a group of soldiers that probably numbers less then 2000 total is seen as the source of strength of the Chantry.

 

Where did I come up with that number?  At the end of Asunder the number of mages in their entirety that had fled the circles and joined up at Andoral's reach for the vote was only several hundred.  If you say several hundred equals 600 mages and there are say 3 templars for every mage in the circles-doubtful but lets shoot for the high end- that is still only 1800 templars. 

 

The templars are there to handle the mages, they are by no means the source of the chantry's power.

[Former_Fiend]

Seventy five percent of Thedas being farmers, merchants, craftsmen, and in general people who physically could not care less about the lyrium trade if they tried, being that they're busy trying to survive various civil wars, plagues, uprisings, and, oh yea, a demonic invasion.

 

Even those who are trained men at arms are generally in the service of nations or nobles who have other problems to deal with at the moment than enforcing the Chantry's drug trade.

 

The vast majority of Andrastians we've seen in game and in novels have been on the casual end of faith. I am not seeing the starving masses deciding to ask "how high" when the Divine tells them to jump. 

[The Baconer]

Where did I come up with that number?  At the end of Asunder the number of mages in their entirety that had fled the circles and joined up at Andoral's reach for the vote was only several hundred.  If you say several hundred equals 600 mages and there are say 3 templars for every mage in the circles-doubtful but lets shoot for the high end- that is still only 1800 templars. 

 

The templars are there to handle the mages, they are by no means the source of the chantry's power.

 

600 wouldn't be accounting for those who died at Kirkwall and Dairsmuid, those who were unable to make it to Andoral's Reach, or the mages who simply decided to **** off.

 

I'm willing to bet that they number more than 2000, though how much more is a different matter.

[TK514]

The dwarves don't honor their deal with the Chantry because of the Templars.  The dwarves have exactly zero fear of invasion by the surface, given how they live in a fortress that is an impregnable mountain from the outside and whose underground entrances are guarded by dwarven city troops, the legion of the dead, and the small matter of the unnumberable hordes of Darkspawn.  There is nothing the Templars, or any other army, could possibly do to coerce the dwarves by force.  It's laughable.

 

The dwarves honor their deal with the Chantry because the Chantry is the highest bidder.  Money is the one and only factor in that relationship.  And since the Chantry is not going to be hurting for funds regardless of the presence of the Templars, that will remain unchanged.

[Former_Fiend]

The dwarves don't honor their deal with the Chantry because of the Templars.  The dwarves have exactly zero fear of invasion by the surface, given how they live in a fortress that is an impregnable mountain from the outside and whose underground entrances are guarded by dwarven city troops, the legion of the dead, and the small matter of the unnumberable hordes of Darkspawn.  There is nothing the Templars, or any other army, could possibly do to coerce the dwarves by force.  It's laughable.

 

The dwarves honor their deal with the Chantry because the Chantry is the highest bidder.  Money is the one and only factor in that relationship.  And since the Chantry is not going to be hurting for funds regardless of the presence of the Templars, that will remain unchanged.

 

The chantry can't get them in Orzamar, but they can get their trade caravans on the surface. In fact, one of the major jobs for templars aside from guarding mages and chantries is hunting down lyrium smugglers.

 

The Chantry may well remain the highest bidder, but there's nothing stopping the dwarves from double dealing now. They can take the Chantry's money to stock pile lyrium in Orzamar(I can't imagine the Chantry is stupid enough to have it shipped to them, leaving it exposed on the road and without a substantial force to protect it), but they could make a good deal extra money by selling to the templars and telling the Chantry "No idea where they're getting the stuff. Must have found another supply."

[TTTX]

Yeah the whole 75% of the surface population being Chantry faithful ready to mount a new Exalted March at a moments notice, doesn't give the Chantry any control....

That's assuming the countries aren't busy dealing with their own problems.

 

Orlais is having a civil war.

 

Ferelden is weaken by the blight.

 

The Free Marches well Kirkwall is probably still rebuilding after battle their and we don't how the other cites are holding up after the war broke out or even how many people they can provide since the probably don't want to leave themselves defenseless.

 

Tevinter well they won't help the Chantry unless it serves their goal or there is a revolution that topple the current government + they have their own version of the Chantry.

 

I would go on, but we don't know how the other countries are doing at the moment, not to mention maybe some of the other countries might even try to turn this disaster into an opportunity to get some more power.

[TTTX]

The chantry can't get them in Orzamar, but they can get their trade caravans on the surface. In fact, one of the major jobs for templars aside from guarding mages and chantries is hunting down lyrium smugglers.

 

The Chantry may well remain the highest bidder, but there's nothing stopping the dwarves from double dealing now. They can take the Chantry's money to stock pile lyrium in Orzamar(I can't imagine the Chantry is stupid enough to have it shipped to them, leaving it exposed on the road and without a substantial force to protect it), but they could make a good deal extra money by selling to the templars and telling the Chantry "No idea where they're getting the stuff. Must have found another supply."

They might even deal with Mages too.

Good way to earn more money is by dealing with both sides, which is why being neutral in a war can be quite profitable and no matter who wins, they way more money by the time it's done anyway.