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Nah i will just destroy everyone who is on my way to victory whether it be a mage or not...


What's the point of discussing social structure if you don't care about society? You should be the last person to care whether mages are imprisoned or killed if you personally have no problems handling them.

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You should fear the dog more actually. More people are killed on average from dog attacks than bear attacks.

Because bears are in cage appropriate for bears and it works mostly thats why we have less bear attacks but now free bears and we will see how many will we have bear attacks hehe... for mages such cages doesn't exist as they are unstable beings and dangerous one...



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Because bears are in cage appropriate for bears and it works mostly thats why we have less bear attacks but now free bears and we will see how many will we have bear attacks hehe... for mages such cages doesn't exist as they are unstable beings and dangerous one...

I was referring to wild bears actually, so...



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Pretty much, it's an endless circle debate to a question there are no right answer too.


This is the right answer. It's actually always the right answer in any situation - if you don't agree with someone and there is no way to not affect each other with these differences you fight it out and the dominant one wins.

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What's the point of discussing social structure if you don't care about society? You should be the last person to care whether mages are imprisoned or killed if you personally have no problems handling them.

 

Well why i should be indifferent on end of the world it would be rather stupid not care about dying end of the world is something that touches me as well... so thats why i "care" about mages...

 

 

 

I was referring to wild bears actually, so...

 

Then you will have to take many factors like that bears don't live in city and rather don't have desire to live them so well...



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Then you will have to take many factors like that bears don't live in city and rather don't have desire to live them so well...

Then that makes your dog vs bear comparison rather worthless now, doesn't it?  :whistle:



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Then that makes your dog vs bear comparison rather worthless now, doesn't it?

 

Facepalm how?

 

i guess you would prefer fight bear than dog by your logic as i understand

 

Gosh why peoples don't think?



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Nah i will just destroy everyone who is on my way to victory whether it be a mage or not...

 

 

 

He would do that anyway perhaps a little later but it is clear he was badly prepared and too arrogant to do that so well that would end way as it ended.

 

As i said 1000 times but non one seems hear prisoner in real life is danger as every human same level can be little stronger or weaker but pretty much same level.You react different on escape of dog and on escape of bear...

 

And considering that i can meet abomnations and blood mages in dark alleys in both cities nope i think that i would have chance end as sacrifice...

 

As i said mages>>(danger)>> non-mage

Well he didn't actually count on summoning demons to begin with, but things don't go he probably had originally planned, so he used his backup plan which then backfired.

 

Depends on the dog, some dogs can be very big.

 

you still have a greater chance of being killed by thieves then a mage and remember a big portion where people live are villages and not cities.

 

Danger yes, but you don't kill people what they might do or else we should kill every human on Earth.



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Facepalm how?

 

i guess you would prefer fight bear than dog by your logic as i understand

 

Gosh why peoples don't think?

Because the conditions of bears vs dogs are not even remotely similar to your argument's conditions.



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Well he didn't actually count on summoning demons to begin with, but things don't go he probably had originally planned, so he used his backup plan which then backfired.

 

Depends on the dog, some dogs can be very big.

 

you still have a greater chance of being killed by thieves then a mage and remember a big portion where people live are villages and not cities.

 

Danger yes, but you don't kill people what they might do or else we should kill every human on Earth.

 

Yes but you have greater chance that your city will burn by abomnation than thief don't you...

 

That you have greater chance being killed by thug on the street than aliens with death star doesn't mean that you treat second as less dangerous in fact you threat other as damn incomparably more dangerous...

 

 

if you don't get it i can help you if you don't want to think...

 

Because the conditions of bears vs dogs are not even remotely similar to your argument's conditions.

 

Oh my gosh look above you have aliens with deat star and you have common thief you have bigger probability that you will be attacked by second but does that mean that you don't care or treat first as less dangerous?



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Then that makes your dog vs bear comparison rather worthless now, doesn't it?  :whistle:

shhh, It makes him feel intellegence, don't ruin it for him.  :P

 

 

This is the right answer. It's actually always the right answer in any situation - if you don't agree with someone and there is no way to not affect each other with these differences you fight it out and the dominant one wins.

Life in a nutshell really. :ph34r:



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Oh my gosh look above you have aliens with deat star and you have common thief you have bigger probability that you will be attacked by second but does that mean that you don't care or treat first as less dangerous?

Well since a deat star is nonexistent since there is no such thing as a deat, I'd actually fear the thief more. 



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Nah, Komandor is actually right about the dangers. It is true that mages represent a very serious danger to everyone, And that danger is far greater than anything else in thedas.

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Nah, Komandor is actually right about the dangers. It is true that mages represent a very serious danger to everyone, And that danger is far greater than anything else in thedas.

:blink: wow really someone realized point i was trying put here? or is that just hope spot? :?



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:blink: wow really someone realized point i was trying put here? or that is just hope spot? :?


I agree with you mostly about everything you have said, i only mostly argue semantics. The only difference is I think mages are awesome dangers be damned, and I speak from a face of a mage, as I always role mages. I would love to be a mage if I was in thedas, regardless of all risks, and I would give mundanes a fight for dominance.

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I agree with you mostly about everything you have said, i only mostly argue semantics. The only difference is I think mages are awesome dangers be damned, and I speak from a face of a mage, as I always role mages. I would love to be a mage if I was in thedas, regardless of all risks, and I would give mundanes a fight for dominance.

Mage in da setting have little power ,belong to minority (well as in most settings) , non-mages can defeat mages even without anti-magic and we have anti-mages that pretty much make take your all powers in an instant , not mention many other flaws being mage like demonic possession. So well being mages in da universe don't make you better it is like born with 3 hand and also with possibility of exploding in any moment...



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We should bring this back to Asunder proper.



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Yes but you have greater chance that your city will burn by abomnation than thief don't you...

 

That you have greater chance being killed by thug on the street than aliens with death star doesn't mean that you treat second as less dangerous in fact you threat other as damn incomparably more dangerous...

That's pushing it for an abomination, it takes time to burn down a city and we haven't seen a city being burned down to the ground by one abomination.

 

indeed, but that means most people probably fears giant Spiders, bears, wolves, criminals, money problems etc. Mages isn't something people fear in their day to day until an actually mage is in their mist and even then chances are they could be all like "I got bigger things to worry about" because humans are humans mages may be more dangerous then most things in the world, but you have to remember it's a small number of mages that turn abomination, even the chantry says you have more to fear from blood mages then abominations.



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Nah, Komandor is actually right about the dangers. It is true that mages represent a very serious danger to everyone, And that danger is far greater than anything else in thedas.

Well as side from demons, dragons and the blight anyway.



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That's pushing it for an abomination, it takes time to burn down a city and we haven't seen a city being burned down to the ground by one abomination.

 

indeed, but that means most people probably fears giant Spiders, bears, wolves, criminals, money problems etc. Mages isn't something people fear in their day to day until an actually mage is in their mist and even then chances are they could be all like "I got bigger things to worry about" because humans are humans mages may be more dangerous then most things in the world, but you have to remember it's a small number of mages that turn abomination, even the chantry says you have more to fear from blood mages then abominations.

 

Well child abomnation took entire castle and village on ease good luck with pride demon possessing powerful mage in fact one that happened in da dawn of the seeker nor cassandra or one of most powerful in circle couldn't even scratch it  only deus ex machina saved day as one girl summoned high dragon (which still lost with pride demon) but managed to injure it to so cassandra could defeat it by jumping on it ans pushing it from high ground...

 

 

Well as side from demons, dragons and the blight anyway.

 

Demons mostly are in thedas thanks to mages so well... abomnation can take high-dragon and blight is mages creation hehe...



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Well child abomnation took entire castle and village on ease good luck with pride demon possessing powerful mage in fact one that happened in da dawn of the seeker nor cassandra or one of most powerful in circle couldn't even scratch it  only deus ex machina saved day as one girl summoned high dragon (which still lost with pride demon) but managed to injure it to so cassandra could defeat it by jumping on it ans pushing it from high ground...

After most of the soldiers left to search an earn and how many would kill a child when it comes down to it, you know the devil are in the details. I haven't seen that movie, so I can't comment on that, but pride demons are are among if not the strongest demons types out there (and still the warden and Hawke kill them, you see logic :P ), so a high dragon would mob the floor with most other demons and other stuff.

 

 

Demons mostly are in thedas thanks to mages so well... abomnation can take high-dragon and blight is mages creation hehe...

mostly, the important word in that sentence, if the mage is possessed by a pride demon and the blight was created by mages and some accident god that was either Dumath or Fenharrel posing as Dumath promising incredible power to the them by going to the co call Golden City.



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@TTTX:

 

It's Dumat, not Dumath. 



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@TTTX:

 

It's Dumat, not Dumath. 

Well I got most of his name right.



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After most of the soldiers left to search an earn and how many would kill a child when it comes down to it, you know the devil are in the details. I haven't seen that movie, so I can't comment on that, but pride demons are are among if not the strongest demons types out there (and still the warden and Hawke kill them, you see logic :P ), so a high dragon would mob the floor with most other demons and other stuff.

 

 

mostly, the important word in that sentence, if the mage is possessed by a pride demon and the blight was created by mages and some accident god that was either Dumath or Fenharrel posing as Dumath promising incredible power to the them by going to the co call Golden City.

 

Well warden and hawke are rpg protagonist if finall bos was god (well what in warden case was) they would kill it... and pretty doesn't change fact that demons are powerful being as i said child took over castle and village on ease.

 

And pretty much that mostly is over 90 % demons in thedas and then see abomnations so well pretty much it makes diffrence with or without mages very big diffrence.

 

No mages no blight ;)



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Well I got most of his name right.

Dumath, Dumat's education supporting cousin. :P