Dinosaurs of course. The reapers eventually killed all dino's and eventually man came and now the reapers want to kill us too.
Or it was the big bang.
Or maybe the light or the darkness or maybe the force.
Does anyone know who made the reapers?
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#27
Posté 22 janvier 2010 - 04:17
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I would say, they formed themselves like the Geth without the Quarians.
They continually evolved as AI, sentient beings.
Much like God made himself.
You just have to believe in them as they come every 50,000 years.
They continually evolved as AI, sentient beings.
Much like God made himself.
You just have to believe in them as they come every 50,000 years.
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Posté 22 janvier 2010 - 04:25
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What I find interesting is that sentient life happens without any assistance (debatable, but no "sci-fi" assistance) - and yet, these Reapers insist that they are essential to "The Cycle".
Did they invent the Cycle? Does it confuse them that - no matter what they do, they can never seem to destroy advanced life?
It's easy to guess why they do it. They're afraid that civilized 'biotics' (as opposed to synthetics) will destroy them.
Mass Effect represented a huge paranoid fear of "Sythetics". I'd find it interesting if the synthetic creatures are terrified of biological lifeforms. There would be so much that doesn't compute. A machine knows where it comes from - it knows every process that goes into its creation. It is simple - and largely unimpressive. ((There are still questions like - am I alive? Why can I think? Etc.))
But where does biological life come from? How does it run? Why does it run? It would seem wildly uncontrolled and dangerous to synthetics.
The Reapers want us gone because no matter how hard they try - they cannot stop us (life) from happening.
Did they invent the Cycle? Does it confuse them that - no matter what they do, they can never seem to destroy advanced life?
It's easy to guess why they do it. They're afraid that civilized 'biotics' (as opposed to synthetics) will destroy them.
Mass Effect represented a huge paranoid fear of "Sythetics". I'd find it interesting if the synthetic creatures are terrified of biological lifeforms. There would be so much that doesn't compute. A machine knows where it comes from - it knows every process that goes into its creation. It is simple - and largely unimpressive. ((There are still questions like - am I alive? Why can I think? Etc.))
But where does biological life come from? How does it run? Why does it run? It would seem wildly uncontrolled and dangerous to synthetics.
The Reapers want us gone because no matter how hard they try - they cannot stop us (life) from happening.
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Posté 22 janvier 2010 - 04:27
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Well said Medhia Nox.
The ending of mass effect 3 should be pretty epic if the reaper fleet is to be destroyed. Using a simple virus like in independence day would be pretty lame IMO. I hope there's some explanation where they come from and hopefully we will know by the end of the trilogy.
The ending of mass effect 3 should be pretty epic if the reaper fleet is to be destroyed. Using a simple virus like in independence day would be pretty lame IMO. I hope there's some explanation where they come from and hopefully we will know by the end of the trilogy.
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My Theory: The Reapers made themselves. They were the first galactic civilization, and they began to over-develop. They eventually realized that technology was the limit of achievement and that flesh and blood fell far beneath it. So they turned themselves progressively into machines, and made themselves more and more advanced until they no longer could. Couple that with hyper-intelligence brought on from centuries and centuries of existence, and you have your species of genocidal robots.
From being on both forums and my own investigation and ideas I came up with the same conclusion almost. This is the best answer or close to the best answer at this time.
#32
Posté 22 janvier 2010 - 04:35
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armass wrote...
God made them?
Why does God need a spaceship?
#33
Posté 22 janvier 2010 - 04:36
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Khayness wrote...
armass wrote...
God made them?
Why does God need a spaceship?
love that quote from Star Trek
#35
Posté 22 janvier 2010 - 04:39
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Hahaha Wayne Enterprises made Reapers .... lmao
#36
Posté 22 janvier 2010 - 04:42
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What if it's actually the Collectors?
Think about it; they haven't been much of a problem to anyone up until Sovereign went boom, and suddenly, they go insane on everyone.
Step 1: Reapers destroy all organic life every 50,000 years. Meanwhile, the collectors collect unusual individuals from each species. But if the Reapers fail...
Step 2: The big creators step in to finish the job, starting with whichever species pwned their Reaper.
Step 3: Eventually, the Collectors win, because if anyone goes through the Omega 4 relay, the get utterly destroyed. Then, the Collectors send in another Reaper, and we go back to Step 1.
Think about it; they haven't been much of a problem to anyone up until Sovereign went boom, and suddenly, they go insane on everyone.
Step 1: Reapers destroy all organic life every 50,000 years. Meanwhile, the collectors collect unusual individuals from each species. But if the Reapers fail...
Step 2: The big creators step in to finish the job, starting with whichever species pwned their Reaper.
Step 3: Eventually, the Collectors win, because if anyone goes through the Omega 4 relay, the get utterly destroyed. Then, the Collectors send in another Reaper, and we go back to Step 1.
#37
Posté 22 janvier 2010 - 04:52
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Who made who?
Who made you?
Who made who?
Ain't nobody told you?
If you made them and they made you?
So who picked up the bill, who?
And who made who?
Yeeeoooooow!
Who made who?
Who turned the screw?
Who made you?
Who made who?
Ain't nobody told you?
If you made them and they made you?
So who picked up the bill, who?
And who made who?
Yeeeoooooow!
Who made who?
Who turned the screw?
#38
Posté 22 janvier 2010 - 04:54
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ResidentNoob wrote...
What if it's actually the Collectors?
Think about it; they haven't been much of a problem to anyone up until Sovereign went boom, and suddenly, they go insane on everyone.
Step 1: Reapers destroy all organic life every 50,000 years. Meanwhile, the collectors collect unusual individuals from each species. But if the Reapers fail...
Step 2: The big creators step in to finish the job, starting with whichever species pwned their Reaper.
Step 3: Eventually, the Collectors win, because if anyone goes through the Omega 4 relay, the get utterly destroyed. Then, the Collectors send in another Reaper, and we go back to Step 1.
That's a really nice one, if the Reaper Vanguard, in this case Sovereign, fails, the Collector's come and collect the species that was victorious, then experiment in this species, and use it's genectic caracteristics to...(someone continue, please
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#39
Posté 22 janvier 2010 - 04:56
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This main idea behind the Reapers is almost exactly the same As the Freespace series Shivans.
An overwhelmingly advanced alien race that emerges from dark space every few dozen millenia to exterminate all advanced life forms and then retreat back to dark space. There is no knowledge of their origins or motives. They just are and they are nigh impossible to stop.
I'm not making this up. These few sentences could describe both games.
In Freespace 1 it took the most elite soldiers to destroy the capital ship of the enemy and even then it was a bittersweet victory as the jumpnode connecting earth to the colonized space was destroyed in the process (akin to our Charon jump node being destoryed, effectively cutting Earth off from the rest of the galax).
In Freespace 2 it took every ship the Alliance of two races to hold up against the Shivans. In a joint program they constructed the Colossus a massive 6 kilometer long destroyer. Armed with the most advanced weapons available in order to destroy the Shivan threat once and for all.
Shivans most powerful warship was eventually destroyed in one-on-one battle with the Colossus while it suffered considerable damage.
Yet only a little while later - dozens upon dozens of those Massive, overpowered ships arrived to destroy the human race despite our best efforts. This time bittersweet victory was achieved when a star was supernova'd that destroyed the enemy fleet. You, the main hero died.
Obvious physics aside, I don't think it will be possible to simply destroy the Reapers in conventional ways. Some specific course of action will probably be required that deals with the situation in an unexpected way.
On an another note. I can't figure the Reapers out. What's the point in destroying everyone. Furthermore, considering that the Entire Citadel Space is less then 1% of the galaxy - do they simply satisfy with that?
In my opinion, the Reapers have constructed dozens of Citadels across the galaxy, in order to supress all life in the entire galaxy.
And even then it makes little sense. What about other galaxies? It makes sense that there are races just as advanced out there as the Reapers. Any galaxy that is left to develop without interferance like the Reapers will probably be quite advanced.
If the Reapers are simply trying to survive by destroying all potential enemies, then they must realize that in the vastness of space, that is simply impossible. And if they hibernate between cycles then what's the point? They don't use any of the "free time" given to them to do anything as far as we know.
Weird. I'm really looking forward to Bioware's conclusion to all this
An overwhelmingly advanced alien race that emerges from dark space every few dozen millenia to exterminate all advanced life forms and then retreat back to dark space. There is no knowledge of their origins or motives. They just are and they are nigh impossible to stop.
I'm not making this up. These few sentences could describe both games.
In Freespace 1 it took the most elite soldiers to destroy the capital ship of the enemy and even then it was a bittersweet victory as the jumpnode connecting earth to the colonized space was destroyed in the process (akin to our Charon jump node being destoryed, effectively cutting Earth off from the rest of the galax).
In Freespace 2 it took every ship the Alliance of two races to hold up against the Shivans. In a joint program they constructed the Colossus a massive 6 kilometer long destroyer. Armed with the most advanced weapons available in order to destroy the Shivan threat once and for all.
Shivans most powerful warship was eventually destroyed in one-on-one battle with the Colossus while it suffered considerable damage.
Yet only a little while later - dozens upon dozens of those Massive, overpowered ships arrived to destroy the human race despite our best efforts. This time bittersweet victory was achieved when a star was supernova'd that destroyed the enemy fleet. You, the main hero died.
Obvious physics aside, I don't think it will be possible to simply destroy the Reapers in conventional ways. Some specific course of action will probably be required that deals with the situation in an unexpected way.
On an another note. I can't figure the Reapers out. What's the point in destroying everyone. Furthermore, considering that the Entire Citadel Space is less then 1% of the galaxy - do they simply satisfy with that?
In my opinion, the Reapers have constructed dozens of Citadels across the galaxy, in order to supress all life in the entire galaxy.
And even then it makes little sense. What about other galaxies? It makes sense that there are races just as advanced out there as the Reapers. Any galaxy that is left to develop without interferance like the Reapers will probably be quite advanced.
If the Reapers are simply trying to survive by destroying all potential enemies, then they must realize that in the vastness of space, that is simply impossible. And if they hibernate between cycles then what's the point? They don't use any of the "free time" given to them to do anything as far as we know.
Weird. I'm really looking forward to Bioware's conclusion to all this
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Posté 22 janvier 2010 - 05:02
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I created the Reapers...now what? lolz
#41
Posté 22 janvier 2010 - 05:11
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I think its odd that they are ships, with living space, corridors and such. I don't see why they would have these if they developed themselves.
I imagine instead, that they were created simply to be vessels of war, their computers given AI and then they out-lived their creators, or killed them in the traditional sci-fi manner. They either then forgot what happened (memory wipe?), or simply refuse to acknowledge it.
They could have been made to protect their creators from attack by other advanced spacefaring races. Maybe that's why they return to wipe out civilisation every 50,000 years? It could be that's how long it takes for a species' technology to advance to the point where its considered a threat?
I dunno - It doesn't seem like a very dramatic storyline for the galaxy's greatest threat, does it?
I imagine instead, that they were created simply to be vessels of war, their computers given AI and then they out-lived their creators, or killed them in the traditional sci-fi manner. They either then forgot what happened (memory wipe?), or simply refuse to acknowledge it.
They could have been made to protect their creators from attack by other advanced spacefaring races. Maybe that's why they return to wipe out civilisation every 50,000 years? It could be that's how long it takes for a species' technology to advance to the point where its considered a threat?
I dunno - It doesn't seem like a very dramatic storyline for the galaxy's greatest threat, does it?
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Posté 22 janvier 2010 - 05:24
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Well, If the Reapers wasnt "created", but simply one of the very first sentient beeings, they would have to start out as organic life.
And that would mean that like 99% of a reaper was made, but 1% carries something from their former organic life (like, maybe the brain?)
Personally I dont find this theory solid, simply because I dont see how any organic life would want to made into what Sovereign was. Think about it, yes they are all powerful, but they also spend their time in constant "stand-by" mode, before they have a "short time" of destruction and genocide to do.
I dont really see how any organic life would want to live like that. Organic life is driven my complex emotions and the urge to multiply (the theory of evolution), no one would want what the reapers do - In fact, I'd personally consider it a living hell.
As far as I can see, this ruthless purging of our galaxy needs an emotionless AI behind it, and we all know AI's must be created. Who created them? Time will show.
And that would mean that like 99% of a reaper was made, but 1% carries something from their former organic life (like, maybe the brain?)
Personally I dont find this theory solid, simply because I dont see how any organic life would want to made into what Sovereign was. Think about it, yes they are all powerful, but they also spend their time in constant "stand-by" mode, before they have a "short time" of destruction and genocide to do.
I dont really see how any organic life would want to live like that. Organic life is driven my complex emotions and the urge to multiply (the theory of evolution), no one would want what the reapers do - In fact, I'd personally consider it a living hell.
As far as I can see, this ruthless purging of our galaxy needs an emotionless AI behind it, and we all know AI's must be created. Who created them? Time will show.
#43
Posté 22 janvier 2010 - 05:42
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Ash probably claims "God" made the reapers.
Dr. Warren, "the Maker" praising survivor on Eden Prime, believes the reapers are a product of the Archdemon.
Dr. Warren, "the Maker" praising survivor on Eden Prime, believes the reapers are a product of the Archdemon.
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Posté 22 janvier 2010 - 05:42
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Many planets in ME1 show evidence of past civilizations - including that one with this huuuuge canyon carved out by a "glancing blow" from a super-massive mass driver round millions and millions of years ago. If it anyone made them, it was likely that race.
Because I really, really doubt that a race that can carve a huge trench in a planet by missing is going to die to Sovereign and his Ilk.
Because I really, really doubt that a race that can carve a huge trench in a planet by missing is going to die to Sovereign and his Ilk.
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Posté 22 janvier 2010 - 05:50
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I have two theories
suporting the concept they were once organic, I suspect the reapers motives, are out of sympathy, to prevent other races from making the same mistakes that lead to the reapers to become what they are today. After they see the pattern of advancement, they save people from becoming like a reaper the only way they knew how, by killing everyone off before they get a chance to.
I have come to this conclussion because reapers are the pinicale of synthetic life. Possibly becoming immortal through technology, but at a heavy price, because they said they 'simply are'.
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Or my second theory, that they may have been created, but noone from that race is alive today, therefore they have no creators. After seeing their creators die from something, they saw organic life as weak, and decided to kill all organic life to root out weakness
suporting the concept they were once organic, I suspect the reapers motives, are out of sympathy, to prevent other races from making the same mistakes that lead to the reapers to become what they are today. After they see the pattern of advancement, they save people from becoming like a reaper the only way they knew how, by killing everyone off before they get a chance to.
I have come to this conclussion because reapers are the pinicale of synthetic life. Possibly becoming immortal through technology, but at a heavy price, because they said they 'simply are'.
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Or my second theory, that they may have been created, but noone from that race is alive today, therefore they have no creators. After seeing their creators die from something, they saw organic life as weak, and decided to kill all organic life to root out weakness
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Posté 22 janvier 2010 - 06:27
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organics wants to be immortal. not everything is known at the start, some just happen after a long time, or are less of a problem when you consider that living longer requires longer rests too.
I don't want to be synth, but I bet a lot of humans want to, if they could live forever.
I don't want to be synth, but I bet a lot of humans want to, if they could live forever.
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Posté 22 janvier 2010 - 06:29
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Bioware made them.
Ha! Get it! Bioware made them!
Ha! Get it! Bioware made them!
#49
Posté 22 janvier 2010 - 07:23
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Or the Reapers were all Conrad Verner's fault for neglecting his wife
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Posté 22 janvier 2010 - 07:31
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