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in the end of me2 you see that the reapers seem to melt people down into goo and somehow use this to produce new reapers and they probably only do this to races they see worthy which means the species who get turned into reapers have to be advanced and intelligent enough to be fused into a reaper which allows the reaper to gain all of his knowledge and personality so what if the original reaper was created by a race of ancient beings who thought it was their final evolution and the pinnacle of an advanced race and they do the cycles of extinction as a way to vary themselves and also think they are helping the species achieve greatness and at the same time allowing them to absorb the knowledge from the same race.
Does anyone know who made the reapers?
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Posté 10 juin 2010 - 03:46
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Soverign boasted they had no beginning and will never end. It is likley that they were there since the beginning of time, made form matter but they don't remeber it.
Theory 2:
Sovereign is a liar. Maybe he just wants to frighten Shepard into thinking the Reapers were eternal. Maybe the Reapers were created by a really really really really old race millions of years ago but the Reapers killed all their creators.
Theory 2:
Sovereign is a liar. Maybe he just wants to frighten Shepard into thinking the Reapers were eternal. Maybe the Reapers were created by a really really really really old race millions of years ago but the Reapers killed all their creators.
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Posté 10 juin 2010 - 06:38
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Well they have been around for more than 37 million years. we know that much.
If you listen to Sovereign in ME1 he tells you that the Reapers "Simply are." which would make him a liar since from ME2 we find out they are indeed created. Or perhaps Sovereign just didn't know perhaps when a Reaper is born they aren't told.
If you think about it if nobody told you you were born you could only assume you've just always existed. So perhaps there is something behind it all that created the Reapers and filled their minds with BS making them believe they are eternal and god-like when they are just like every other species in the Galaxy, who knows maybe the Reapers are just pawns of something more.
If you listen to Sovereign in ME1 he tells you that the Reapers "Simply are." which would make him a liar since from ME2 we find out they are indeed created. Or perhaps Sovereign just didn't know perhaps when a Reaper is born they aren't told.
If you think about it if nobody told you you were born you could only assume you've just always existed. So perhaps there is something behind it all that created the Reapers and filled their minds with BS making them believe they are eternal and god-like when they are just like every other species in the Galaxy, who knows maybe the Reapers are just pawns of something more.
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Posté 10 juin 2010 - 07:22
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Long explaination, hold on to your seats.
Well here's my best opinion, I've played ME1 through 6 times, 4 paragon 2 renegade. All on insantity
ME2 played through 9 times, 5 renegade, 4 paragon. Insanity as well, insanity's fun, very fun
And well the pattern I'm seeing is that the title of the game, Mass effect has more reason then we realize.
I actually read the codex in both, thought about everything ive seen in the game, and I put 2 and 2 together.
There is a pattern, let's start with the most simple concept in the game. Every 50,000 years give or take. Soveriegn sent a signal to the citadel to let the reapers through. They got the better of (for the lack of a better word) our society by basically turning us into a form of "physical information":blink:. They set us up in a way that they could get the better of us. They basically never gave us a fighting chance information wise, the same conept can be seen as a 3 year old killing chuck norris (hypothetically no flames please)
, he could do it if he was asleep, had a gun and snuck up on him. I think humans are smarter than reapers in the game metaphysically speaking.
Like the ability to see the natural strengths of individual's and useing them in the correct situation, or one procsesser that tells other procsessor's how to handle a situation or physical movements to take and do, hence the fighting style in the game, the abilty to work together to the fullest extent. It's stated in the game that humans are so diverse, I think that we developed a unique ability to try to understand the other by looking for patterns in behavior. Something we learned from the diffrent type of people dealt with over time on our planet. Not to mention that humans, Salarians, and Turians are the only species that got to the citadel completely on on ther'ye own doing. No alien intervention.
Correct me if im wrong on this one to please.
I've never seen an alien in the game try to be beat someone by understanding them they usually try to win by doing what thery'e good at, Iv'e only seen humans doing this in the game. But at the same point there are stupid humans in the game to. But were all different. I can only claim one moment where Garrus came close, when you went to save him he started think about it. But didn't come to a conclusion until after he heard the explosion.
Don't take this to heart this is highly unlikely, but fun to speculate.
"There's only 3 of them, how can you not stop them".
I lol'd when I heard that on Korlus and smiled from ear to ear.
Now comes paragon and renegade, good and evil. Every race has good and bad guys, but it goes deeper than this. Their race had alot to do with how many good and bad there were per race. Hardware (the body) and software (the brain). Legion's example during the heretic mission can clarify this better. Take the krogan, Their blood pack, Renegade, and renegade style fighting definently suits a krogan's physical abilty's, I HATE GETTING CHARGED.
LMAO
Grunt rip's through husk's like nobody's business, husk's are melee creature's and krogan are definently melee creatures, with the abilty to use a weapon which makes them very dangerous in close quarters.
and the mindset for them is kill or be killed, confidence which is needed in a position where you can't really run away. When it comes down to the quick even our world works a lil like this, just not to the extreme.
And you never see vorcha being good, ME3 might change this of course. But it's mostly due to there lack of intelligience, if the vorcha realized that the way they live is the reason behind why there treated like vermin they could live almost anywhere they pleased. Even though they aren't always hostile, Shisk proves this. But, they're always with the blood pack, why because this is the only way there mindset allows them to live. And the blood pack isn't nescessarily refered to as good. Mix in the fact that if you healed that fast in real life it'd be pretty easy to win just about any standard gunfight, BOOM BOOM, im hit oh it healed, hey he just died from a bleed out, I WIN.
lol
Another example is the volus, wouldn't it make sense that if the volus were the first to the citadel. That the asari and turians and humans would be wearing envirosuits, thus putting us at a fighting disadvantage and then becomeing book keepers. This was the case with the geth, AI is illegal remember, so if there peaceful (which the majority of them are) why would they go to the citadel knowing there gonna get shot at. And come to find out that the heretics are only 5% of the geth that existed. Now the game states that humans are the most genetically diverse, you see humans doing everything in game, very key if you ask me. As compared to the rest of the organics and synthetics. Keep that in mind.
I believe that the reapers know these good and evil factions exist in the galaxy "we are all knowing". Therefore they manipulate the galaxy through the collector's or any other indoctrinated race in order to help themsleve's stay under the radar even further, by getting these factions to chronically fight with eachother. Now don't get ahead of me.
In a way these renegade splinter's of each race tend to do there own thing, not technically bad. But more good for this specific situation, bad for this specific situtuation and vice versa. Not to mention that the Reaper's tap into our information all the time, so if these renegade groups hide information as it is, there's a possib;e chance the the Reaper's might overlook something.
In ME1 the protheans built a mass realy that linked to the citadel, using this they managed to jam the signal. How did the reapers not know about this, um splinter renegade group much.
half of shepard's upgrades come from an illicit form of research, not to mention looting money from a scene of combat. Think about this now, back during WWII we tried to help people but at the same point we took thing's. My grandfather has 20 dollars of old fashioned euro's he took from a civilians house, did any one stop him, no. And at the same point it is just a game. Gotta give it some lieniency, other wise it wouldn't be fun, lol. "Shepard you need to work for another 5 hours to afford the submachinegun damage, now sit down and finish this paperwork". lol, Not fun.
Now, Look at cereberus they're the only ones who accept the reapers as the truth as far as humans go. Conversation overheard on the normandy prove's this, because there informed about it. And yet the most powerful organic entity in the galaxy "the council" see's them as a myth.
Another example, Nobody's seen a Raloie, but galactic news states that they're an avian species that just joined up with them. But I never seen a Raloie why should I believe it, that's exactly how the council treats shepard when he talks about the reapers, what gives the galactic news more power than the man who killed hundreds of geth, people, and stoped a reaper.
I'll tell you STUPIDITY, this does exist in the real world as well, unfortunetly. Anyway.
Because there's so many citadel followers on top of the fact that the reapers always use intermediaries to do there dirty work. Keep in mind that the council is supposed to be good, even though I want to hit them upside the head after saving there @#!%$ and still not backing me up.
Now the reapers know these two powers exist, now look back at the logs found on the derelict reaper.
"wait, I though that was my wife what's going on here" Remember. I think that the indoctrination isn't so much brain washing, but a tech that allows organic species, synthetic species to instantly share thoughts, (information). And if you think about it, what a person remembers tends to dictate your personality. Somone in real life will hate the police if there chronically harassed by them enough, even if the police are trying to be good and help, the bad guy won't be able to comprehend that part because he doesn't see that end of it, could just as well be a bad round of luck that causes this for the person.
Look at EDI as an example,when she was created and she was only a brain that could talk at first, If you think about she's only as old as the the second normandy. She was physically cut off from the ship's sensors at first. After Joker hooked her up miranda was concered with EDI going rogue EDI then state's. "Even if I weren't bound by my protocols, YOUR STILL MY CREW".
Now what would've happened if EDI had access to the ship before she had met everyone and gotten to know them, there's a good question. Now that she's the ship her own personal experiences with the crew has given her a personality The odd's of her going rogue are in fact lower now then they ever were because of that.
Now, what were to happen if all the knowledge she knew were coupled with the reapers memory's, would she still be the same. Good question can't answer it myself, more than likely no because she's still a computerized AI. Which means, that she'll base all her idea's of the information she initally hold's and will not delete it believeing that the previous was correct, and being a computer has the abilty to turn her senses off if need be, unlike organic species.
Now if information is the key to defining good and evil, and the reapers knew this. They also all had the same memory's themselves, basically the same person or soul (again for the lack of a better word). For themsleves good and evil doesnt exist. "It's just me". Possibly just harbinger, he could possibly be the brain of all of them. Which could also be a weakness.
And also the reapers seem to have the ability to send and recieve information instantly how would they know all the way out in darkspace whats happening in the galaxy if information can't be sent faster than the speed of light? And a single processer could run an infinite number of ship's/body's if the information was sent at an infinite rate, that's truth actually I am a little bit of a programmer myself.
Dark energy, I think that it's actually a form of biotics sending waves of gravity that can be read just like radio waves, gravity is instant even in our world, if you can manipulate it like you can in the mass effect world, what's to stop you from building a device that can use it for instant information transfer, or turning it into a form of language. Hence the reapers all haveing the same thoughts, no time lag in the processing of information. Therefore the reapers all know the same thing therefor every one has the same goal, or same personality.
The people they indoctrinate, they technically kill because they ruin there personality's. Basically reprogamming, and stealing any information that they didn't know.
LMAO in fact I came to this idea when I was playing so after my 3rd playthourgh of ME2 I stopped useing AI hack or reave, it just didn't seem right to me cause i was acting like a reaper. lol but that's just me.
Now I am not sideing with the reapers at all, I think they all need to be destroyed. And I think in ME3 you'll have the choice to destroy or live with them. Even though I will wind up destroying them if it's an option. I can think of two things behind the whole reason for doing this.
A. That mass relays need to be put into position and used. Meaning that someone has to travel to a place the old fashioned way and put one there. Then you can get back instantly. Therefor the reapers now want to move on to another galaxy, so they started heading for one, which is going to take a googlplex of years, so they took a mass relay with them linked to the citadel, so when the vangaurd signals it's the best time to come back and harvest further energy needed to continue the trip. They then go back through the citadel after farming and learning even more and continue further to there next victim. Knowing that at some point of time, the milky way galaxy will run 100% out of energy, and this is what drives them. Surivial just like us. Until something better comes along of course, Like humans persay, and throws them for a loop. As harbigner said, "you think evolution stop's shepard",
lol yes it stops with humans haha eat your own words harbinger.
B. According to their thought process, they see that if they allow
intelligence to grow eventually one species will rise to the top in the galaxy and
come up with the same tech that there made of, then they will pose as a
threat.They truely are super beings like gods and want to survive like any other living thinking thing, and the system they have set up is the best way to ensure they're survival.
Bearing all those concpets in mind, I think that the reapers are really nothing more than the first
superintelligient species of the galaxy. Just like alot of the others on this forum.
Now the logic in my head reads like this, lol. Now if you were the very first species
with no limits in the mass effect world. Then it would make sense that
darwinsim would hold very very true. Notice how all the reapers look the
same at the end, THERE'S MILLIONS, and they ALL look the same. But the human reaper looked like a human. Well I think that this
was a species that became so advanced and strong that they dominated the
galaxy before they came up with the tech to turn themsleves into these giant ships. The math makes sense to, they said they needed millions of more humans to complete the reaper. Well if the entire Galaxy only had one type of intelligence species in it, there would be an insane number that I can't even think of many of those species especially at the point of time they would've figured out reaper tech on there own. Add the time needed to change over to the reapers, Coupled with reproduction on this huge number as it was well, coupled with the fact that this was the last few times to make woopee, yeah. They then turned themsleves into these reaper things, and useing this dark energy information transfer thing they created a form of superintelligence by putting all there memory's together, thus makeing and entirely new personaltiy, and if they
were that intellegent at that point and with them being the only speices around due to how long they existed. There were very few to argue against doing such a thing. Or the balancing of good and evil, so to speak.
there's that my Idea, please bear in mind that this my idea on the ME world.
lol I know long, But I LOVE this game, I love thinking games and this one does it for me^_^.
Well here's my best opinion, I've played ME1 through 6 times, 4 paragon 2 renegade. All on insantity
ME2 played through 9 times, 5 renegade, 4 paragon. Insanity as well, insanity's fun, very fun
And well the pattern I'm seeing is that the title of the game, Mass effect has more reason then we realize.
I actually read the codex in both, thought about everything ive seen in the game, and I put 2 and 2 together.
There is a pattern, let's start with the most simple concept in the game. Every 50,000 years give or take. Soveriegn sent a signal to the citadel to let the reapers through. They got the better of (for the lack of a better word) our society by basically turning us into a form of "physical information":blink:. They set us up in a way that they could get the better of us. They basically never gave us a fighting chance information wise, the same conept can be seen as a 3 year old killing chuck norris (hypothetically no flames please)
, he could do it if he was asleep, had a gun and snuck up on him. I think humans are smarter than reapers in the game metaphysically speaking.Like the ability to see the natural strengths of individual's and useing them in the correct situation, or one procsesser that tells other procsessor's how to handle a situation or physical movements to take and do, hence the fighting style in the game, the abilty to work together to the fullest extent. It's stated in the game that humans are so diverse, I think that we developed a unique ability to try to understand the other by looking for patterns in behavior. Something we learned from the diffrent type of people dealt with over time on our planet. Not to mention that humans, Salarians, and Turians are the only species that got to the citadel completely on on ther'ye own doing. No alien intervention.
Correct me if im wrong on this one to please.
I've never seen an alien in the game try to be beat someone by understanding them they usually try to win by doing what thery'e good at, Iv'e only seen humans doing this in the game. But at the same point there are stupid humans in the game to. But were all different. I can only claim one moment where Garrus came close, when you went to save him he started think about it. But didn't come to a conclusion until after he heard the explosion.
Don't take this to heart this is highly unlikely, but fun to speculate.
"There's only 3 of them, how can you not stop them".
I lol'd when I heard that on Korlus and smiled from ear to ear.Now comes paragon and renegade, good and evil. Every race has good and bad guys, but it goes deeper than this. Their race had alot to do with how many good and bad there were per race. Hardware (the body) and software (the brain). Legion's example during the heretic mission can clarify this better. Take the krogan, Their blood pack, Renegade, and renegade style fighting definently suits a krogan's physical abilty's, I HATE GETTING CHARGED.
LMAO
Grunt rip's through husk's like nobody's business, husk's are melee creature's and krogan are definently melee creatures, with the abilty to use a weapon which makes them very dangerous in close quarters.and the mindset for them is kill or be killed, confidence which is needed in a position where you can't really run away. When it comes down to the quick even our world works a lil like this, just not to the extreme.
And you never see vorcha being good, ME3 might change this of course. But it's mostly due to there lack of intelligience, if the vorcha realized that the way they live is the reason behind why there treated like vermin they could live almost anywhere they pleased. Even though they aren't always hostile, Shisk proves this. But, they're always with the blood pack, why because this is the only way there mindset allows them to live. And the blood pack isn't nescessarily refered to as good. Mix in the fact that if you healed that fast in real life it'd be pretty easy to win just about any standard gunfight, BOOM BOOM, im hit oh it healed, hey he just died from a bleed out, I WIN.
lol
Another example is the volus, wouldn't it make sense that if the volus were the first to the citadel. That the asari and turians and humans would be wearing envirosuits, thus putting us at a fighting disadvantage and then becomeing book keepers. This was the case with the geth, AI is illegal remember, so if there peaceful (which the majority of them are) why would they go to the citadel knowing there gonna get shot at. And come to find out that the heretics are only 5% of the geth that existed. Now the game states that humans are the most genetically diverse, you see humans doing everything in game, very key if you ask me. As compared to the rest of the organics and synthetics. Keep that in mind.
I believe that the reapers know these good and evil factions exist in the galaxy "we are all knowing". Therefore they manipulate the galaxy through the collector's or any other indoctrinated race in order to help themsleve's stay under the radar even further, by getting these factions to chronically fight with eachother. Now don't get ahead of me.
In a way these renegade splinter's of each race tend to do there own thing, not technically bad. But more good for this specific situation, bad for this specific situtuation and vice versa. Not to mention that the Reaper's tap into our information all the time, so if these renegade groups hide information as it is, there's a possib;e chance the the Reaper's might overlook something.
In ME1 the protheans built a mass realy that linked to the citadel, using this they managed to jam the signal. How did the reapers not know about this, um splinter renegade group much.
half of shepard's upgrades come from an illicit form of research, not to mention looting money from a scene of combat. Think about this now, back during WWII we tried to help people but at the same point we took thing's. My grandfather has 20 dollars of old fashioned euro's he took from a civilians house, did any one stop him, no. And at the same point it is just a game. Gotta give it some lieniency, other wise it wouldn't be fun, lol. "Shepard you need to work for another 5 hours to afford the submachinegun damage, now sit down and finish this paperwork". lol, Not fun.
Now, Look at cereberus they're the only ones who accept the reapers as the truth as far as humans go. Conversation overheard on the normandy prove's this, because there informed about it. And yet the most powerful organic entity in the galaxy "the council" see's them as a myth.
Another example, Nobody's seen a Raloie, but galactic news states that they're an avian species that just joined up with them. But I never seen a Raloie why should I believe it, that's exactly how the council treats shepard when he talks about the reapers, what gives the galactic news more power than the man who killed hundreds of geth, people, and stoped a reaper.
I'll tell you STUPIDITY, this does exist in the real world as well, unfortunetly. Anyway.
Because there's so many citadel followers on top of the fact that the reapers always use intermediaries to do there dirty work. Keep in mind that the council is supposed to be good, even though I want to hit them upside the head after saving there @#!%$ and still not backing me up.
Now the reapers know these two powers exist, now look back at the logs found on the derelict reaper.
"wait, I though that was my wife what's going on here" Remember. I think that the indoctrination isn't so much brain washing, but a tech that allows organic species, synthetic species to instantly share thoughts, (information). And if you think about it, what a person remembers tends to dictate your personality. Somone in real life will hate the police if there chronically harassed by them enough, even if the police are trying to be good and help, the bad guy won't be able to comprehend that part because he doesn't see that end of it, could just as well be a bad round of luck that causes this for the person.
Look at EDI as an example,when she was created and she was only a brain that could talk at first, If you think about she's only as old as the the second normandy. She was physically cut off from the ship's sensors at first. After Joker hooked her up miranda was concered with EDI going rogue EDI then state's. "Even if I weren't bound by my protocols, YOUR STILL MY CREW".
Now what would've happened if EDI had access to the ship before she had met everyone and gotten to know them, there's a good question. Now that she's the ship her own personal experiences with the crew has given her a personality The odd's of her going rogue are in fact lower now then they ever were because of that.
Now, what were to happen if all the knowledge she knew were coupled with the reapers memory's, would she still be the same. Good question can't answer it myself, more than likely no because she's still a computerized AI. Which means, that she'll base all her idea's of the information she initally hold's and will not delete it believeing that the previous was correct, and being a computer has the abilty to turn her senses off if need be, unlike organic species.
Now if information is the key to defining good and evil, and the reapers knew this. They also all had the same memory's themselves, basically the same person or soul (again for the lack of a better word). For themsleves good and evil doesnt exist. "It's just me". Possibly just harbinger, he could possibly be the brain of all of them. Which could also be a weakness.
And also the reapers seem to have the ability to send and recieve information instantly how would they know all the way out in darkspace whats happening in the galaxy if information can't be sent faster than the speed of light? And a single processer could run an infinite number of ship's/body's if the information was sent at an infinite rate, that's truth actually I am a little bit of a programmer myself.
Dark energy, I think that it's actually a form of biotics sending waves of gravity that can be read just like radio waves, gravity is instant even in our world, if you can manipulate it like you can in the mass effect world, what's to stop you from building a device that can use it for instant information transfer, or turning it into a form of language. Hence the reapers all haveing the same thoughts, no time lag in the processing of information. Therefore the reapers all know the same thing therefor every one has the same goal, or same personality.
The people they indoctrinate, they technically kill because they ruin there personality's. Basically reprogamming, and stealing any information that they didn't know.
LMAO in fact I came to this idea when I was playing so after my 3rd playthourgh of ME2 I stopped useing AI hack or reave, it just didn't seem right to me cause i was acting like a reaper. lol but that's just me.
Now I am not sideing with the reapers at all, I think they all need to be destroyed. And I think in ME3 you'll have the choice to destroy or live with them. Even though I will wind up destroying them if it's an option. I can think of two things behind the whole reason for doing this.
A. That mass relays need to be put into position and used. Meaning that someone has to travel to a place the old fashioned way and put one there. Then you can get back instantly. Therefor the reapers now want to move on to another galaxy, so they started heading for one, which is going to take a googlplex of years, so they took a mass relay with them linked to the citadel, so when the vangaurd signals it's the best time to come back and harvest further energy needed to continue the trip. They then go back through the citadel after farming and learning even more and continue further to there next victim. Knowing that at some point of time, the milky way galaxy will run 100% out of energy, and this is what drives them. Surivial just like us. Until something better comes along of course, Like humans persay, and throws them for a loop. As harbigner said, "you think evolution stop's shepard",
lol yes it stops with humans haha eat your own words harbinger.
B. According to their thought process, they see that if they allow
intelligence to grow eventually one species will rise to the top in the galaxy and
come up with the same tech that there made of, then they will pose as a
threat.They truely are super beings like gods and want to survive like any other living thinking thing, and the system they have set up is the best way to ensure they're survival.
Bearing all those concpets in mind, I think that the reapers are really nothing more than the first
superintelligient species of the galaxy. Just like alot of the others on this forum.
Now the logic in my head reads like this, lol. Now if you were the very first species
with no limits in the mass effect world. Then it would make sense that
darwinsim would hold very very true. Notice how all the reapers look the
same at the end, THERE'S MILLIONS, and they ALL look the same. But the human reaper looked like a human. Well I think that this
was a species that became so advanced and strong that they dominated the
galaxy before they came up with the tech to turn themsleves into these giant ships. The math makes sense to, they said they needed millions of more humans to complete the reaper. Well if the entire Galaxy only had one type of intelligence species in it, there would be an insane number that I can't even think of many of those species especially at the point of time they would've figured out reaper tech on there own. Add the time needed to change over to the reapers, Coupled with reproduction on this huge number as it was well, coupled with the fact that this was the last few times to make woopee, yeah. They then turned themsleves into these reaper things, and useing this dark energy information transfer thing they created a form of superintelligence by putting all there memory's together, thus makeing and entirely new personaltiy, and if they
were that intellegent at that point and with them being the only speices around due to how long they existed. There were very few to argue against doing such a thing. Or the balancing of good and evil, so to speak.
there's that my Idea, please bear in mind that this my idea on the ME world.
lol I know long, But I LOVE this game, I love thinking games and this one does it for me^_^.
#80
Posté 10 juin 2010 - 02:45
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Personally I think the reapers are just spaceships that are piloted by the the Ro-Bear Berbils.
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Posté 10 juin 2010 - 04:01
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How would anyone know who made the repears
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Posté 10 juin 2010 - 04:32
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It is clearly obvious who made the reapers... it's the BioWare >.<
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Posté 10 juin 2010 - 06:04
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Medhia Nox wrote...
What I find interesting is that sentient life happens without any assistance (debatable, but no "sci-fi" assistance) - and yet, these Reapers insist that they are essential to "The Cycle".
Did they invent the Cycle? Does it confuse them that - no matter what they do, they can never seem to destroy advanced life?
It's easy to guess why they do it. They're afraid that civilized 'biotics' (as opposed to synthetics) will destroy them.
Mass Effect represented a huge paranoid fear of "Sythetics". I'd find it interesting if the synthetic creatures are terrified of biological lifeforms. There would be so much that doesn't compute. A machine knows where it comes from - it knows every process that goes into its creation. It is simple - and largely unimpressive. ((There are still questions like - am I alive? Why can I think? Etc.))
But where does biological life come from? How does it run? Why does it run? It would seem wildly uncontrolled and dangerous to synthetics.
The Reapers want us gone because no matter how hard they try - they cannot stop us (life) from happening.
Well said!
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Posté 10 juin 2010 - 06:41
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Stephen Hawking made the Reapers in his past life when he could walk
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Posté 10 juin 2010 - 06:51
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The Chinese...those bastards make everything...luckily right before the reapers destroy the citadel they will crap out due to shoddy design and cheap parts.
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Posté 10 juin 2010 - 06:52
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you i'd like to think that they where an Organic sentient race and reached such a point in technology they began to mix themselves with it (much like saren had parts of him being robotic) until they became fully robotic
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Posté 10 juin 2010 - 06:54
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The reapers?Lopake wrote...
How would anyone know who made the repears
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Posté 10 juin 2010 - 07:02
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They made them selfs somehow, just like Jesus.
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Posté 10 juin 2010 - 07:03
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The first Reapers are mechanical thorians.
Husk and Thorian creepers.Gettting knowledge from dead bodies (prothean cypher) and become a "nation" this way.
Husk and Thorian creepers.Gettting knowledge from dead bodies (prothean cypher) and become a "nation" this way.
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Posté 10 juin 2010 - 07:05
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A Wizard, ... wait ... Mass Effect fields did it!
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Posté 10 juin 2010 - 07:11
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It was the Hanar. I mean...duh. They have been sitting on the sidelines, manipulating everyone. They are the true threat, especially with their commander, Blasto.
EDIT: Or fried chicken, whatever you wanna think.
EDIT: Or fried chicken, whatever you wanna think.
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Posté 10 juin 2010 - 07:13
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the reapers were made by the protheans, the protheans sent them back in time to wipe out previous space faring life to make room for them to rise to the top... then the reapers started malfunctioning and killed the protheans
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Posté 10 juin 2010 - 07:47
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You mean God?Vena_86 wrote...
They made them selfs somehow, just like Jesus.
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Posté 10 juin 2010 - 08:18
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ShamieGTX wrote...
You mean God?Vena_86 wrote...
They made them selfs somehow, just like Jesus.
Lol
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Posté 10 juin 2010 - 10:33
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Sialboats wrote...
My Theory: The Reapers made themselves. They were the first galactic civilization, and they began to over-develop. They eventually realized that technology was the limit of achievement and that flesh and blood fell far beneath it. So they turned themselves progressively into machines, and made themselves more and more advanced until they no longer could. Couple that with hyper-intelligence brought on from centuries and centuries of existence, and you have your species of genocidal robots.
This makes the most sense, but if so, what was before the creation on the Reapers?
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Posté 10 juin 2010 - 10:35
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ShamieGTX wrote...
You mean God?Vena_86 wrote...
They made them selfs somehow, just like Jesus.
Ahahahahaha. This is priceless.
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Posté 10 juin 2010 - 11:38
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Akiada wrote...
Many planets in ME1 show evidence of past civilizations - including that one with this huuuuge canyon carved out by a "glancing blow" from a super-massive mass driver round millions and millions of years ago. If it anyone made them, it was likely that race.
Because I really, really doubt that a race that can carve a huge trench in a planet by missing is going to die to Sovereign and his Ilk.
Dunno... if you can't even hit a planet. Quite a bit more than the "broadside of a barn".
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Posté 11 juin 2010 - 02:43
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My guess is that the Reapers made themselves in a way kind of like Legion describes the Geth intending to do. One species (or at least their leaders) decided to turn the entire species into a single entity ("We are each a nation"). Then once they were a Reaper they thought "Hey this is great we should turn all those other species into Reapers too for their own good". Hence Harbringer commenting on Horizon "Prepare these Humans for their ascent to Godhood".
