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[Hanako Ikezawa]

If that's how the Qunari warriors are dressed, then WTF do the Qunari prostitutes wear?

There is no such thing as a Qunari prostitute. They only have sex for the purpose of reproduction. 

[Master Warder Z_]

There is no such thing as a Qunari prostitute. They only have sex for the purpose of reproduction. 

 

There is only the Qun.

 

[Iakus]

I'm also hoping they'll explain away their tribal and naked look in DA2 with them being mostly sailors and/or TalVashoth.

 

Their practical nature would surely make their army wear something protective and we're always told how advanced their military is. War paint and throwing spears from DA2 certainly don't reflect that. I really can't take the "Qunari threat" seriously when they look like painted cavemen hurling sticks at you. Intricate and exotic steel armor would be better imo.

 

In the 30th year of the Steel Age, the first Qunari ships were sighted off the coast of Par Vollen in the far north, marking the beginning of a new age of warfare.

 

History calls this the First Qunari War, but it was mostly a one-sided bloodbath, with the Qunari advancing far into the mainland.  Qunari warriors in glittering steel armor carved through armies with ease.  Their cannons, the likes of which our ancestors had never seen, reduced city walls to rubble in a matter of seconds

 

From the Codex Entry "Par Vollen, the Occupied North"

 

Those are Qunari I'd like to see!

[Clockwork_Wings]

I really hope so! We have a Qunari companion so i think if his outfit will change for him there is no reason we will not see the same on us

Then again, I want my qunari mage wearing Dalish armor, because i think it would be funny.

[SiN82]

In the 30th year of the Steel Age, the first Qunari ships were sighted off the coast of Par Vollen in the far north, marking the beginning of a new age of warfare.

 

History calls this the First Qunari War, but it was mostly a one-sided bloodbath, with the Qunari advancing far into the mainland.  Qunari warriors in glittering steel armor carved through armies with ease.  Their cannons, the likes of which our ancestors had never seen, reduced city walls to rubble in a matter of seconds

 

From the Codex Entry "Par Vollen, the Occupied North"

 

Those are Qunari I'd like to see!

 

I always found strange see a race phisically stronger than the others, heavily armored, with cannons, gigantic warships, poison gas bombs ecc...have been pushed back by the Exalted March... it's more reasonable they have found more harder fight the Tevniter Empire, because i find scary an army of mages...

 

Anyway, if they find so hard conquer the Tevinter Empire, i can't understand how ferelden and other more "privitive" country can push them back.

 

It's just a matter of numbers?

[TTTX]

They are awesome warriors... that's why they wear little armor... bare chested qunari warrior princesses for the win! ^^

Women in the Qunari faith can't be warriors or rather they can't serve in qunari army.

Only men can serve in the army.

 

Women can fight however, they just can't serve in the army as warriors. 

[Das Tentakel]

They are awesome warriors... that's why they wear little armor... bare chested qunari warrior princesses for the win! ^^

 
Such people usually end up as magnificently dead awesome warriors. They do make excellent cadavers, for sure. Scavengers and insects like them too, there's no layers of packaging that have to be removed first. 
 
Perhaps we might call the Qunari 'warriors with light, eco-friendly armour'? What's there ain't much and often appears made of leather, which presumably is 100% bio-degradable. 
 
For the rest, well, Qunari looks are probably a prime example of 'Marketing clashing with credible worldbuilding'. Usually, marketing wins.
 

 

In the 30th year of the Steel Age, the first Qunari ships were sighted off the coast of Par Vollen in the far north, marking the beginning of a new age of warfare.
 
History calls this the First Qunari War, but it was mostly a one-sided bloodbath, with the Qunari advancing far into the mainland.  Qunari warriors in glittering steel armor carved through armies with ease.  Their cannons, the likes of which our ancestors had never seen, reduced city walls to rubble in a matter of seconds
 
From the Codex Entry "Par Vollen, the Occupied North"

Well, 'glittering steel' would presumably refer to shiny plate armour. My guess is we're never going to see that.
I think the US Army might want to have a look at those cannons reducing city walls to rubble 'in a matter of seconds'. Early cannons were bad news for city walls, but 'seconds' is a bit much and cannons had their limitations. There are several old buildings in my country were cannonballs are still embedded in the walls - and I'm talking houses and churches here, not fortifications.

Then again, perhaps 'chronicler hyperbole'.

[Tevinter Soldier]

There is no such thing as a Qunari prostitute. They only have sex for the purpose of reproduction. 

 

and that explains their ill temperment! 

[SiN82]

Last comments are pretty fun 

 

Anyway, i was thinking, as a Vashoth, how much we will be different from others Qunari? I mean, even the mercenaries we met in DA 2 were harsh and emotionless... but in the concept art of Iron Bull he is smiling (ok, maybe it's more a smirk )... so maybe we will see a different kind of Qunari this time?

 

 

And to stay IT, i'm figure out if we can choose the shape of our horns and facial hairs... i always tought Qunari don't have beard but...

 

[Iakus]

I always found strange see a race phisically stronger than the others, heavily armored, with cannons, gigantic warships, poison gas bombs ecc...have been pushed back by the Exalted March... it's more reasonable they have found more harder fight the Tevniter Empire, because i find scary an army of mages...

 

Anyway, if they find so hard conquer the Tevinter Empire, i can't understand how ferelden and other more "privitive" country can push them back.

 

It's just a matter of numbers?

 

Well, numbers certainly played an important factor.  They were fighting essentially all of Thedas at once:  Exalted Marches from both the White and Black chantries.

 

In addition, the Qunari faced not just the magisters, but the Chantry let the Circle of Magi off the leash as well.  Magic is one area the Qunari aren't as adept at as the rest of Thedas.  

 

And even then, it's been suggested that the Qunari haven't gone back on the offensive because they don't want to go on the offensive yet.  Perhaps they're waiting for something...

[SiN82]

Well, numbers certainly played an important factor.  They were fighting essentially all of Thedas at once:  Exalted Marches from both the White and Black chantries.

 

In addition, the Qunari faced not just the magisters, but the Chantry let the Circle of Magi off the leash as well.  Magic is one area the Qunari aren't as adept at as the rest of Thedas.  

 

And even then, it's been suggested that the Qunari haven't gone back on the offensive because they don't want to go on the offensive yet.  Perhaps they're waiting for something...

 

 

They suffered many losses in their last battles against tevinter empire and the three exalted marches... maybe they are waiting to came back in full force to trying to conquer Thedas.

[Lillian]

Well, considering Vivienne's look... Horns seem to be all the rage in Orlais! So, Qunari (Tal Vasshoth) are just really walking fashion. 

[SiN82]

Well, considering Vivienne's look... Horns seem to be all the rage in Orlais! So, Qunari (Tal Vasshoth) are just really walking fashion. 

 

Orlesians Qunari are the best! 

 

[Das Tentakel]

Hmmm...in terms of 'visual uniqueness', the Qunari may have a wee bit of a problem...well, that's what you get when you don't want to pay Wizards of the Coast franchise money, but still use their stuff...sort of...
 

 
 

 

 

Well, considering Vivienne's look... Horns seem to be all the rage in Orlais! So, Qunari (Tal Vasshoth) are just really walking fashion.

Well, in this respect they have out-Vivienne'd Vivienne in li'l old Neverwinter...
 

 

I admit to having ROFL'd quite intensively once I saw La Vivi's looks, but this one easily tops it 

[SiN82]

Ahahah! Those armors are stuck in the '90 

[Lady Nuggins]

Right... i always found strange that they look so primitive for a technologically advanced race

 

 

Yeah good point...

 

Honestly in almost all aspects they come off as tribal rather than technologically advanced. I'm having a hard time really buying into the whole superiority thing.

 

I don't see where people are getting "primitive" and "tribal" from those outfits.  Those look like samurai to me.  Strong warrior culture, advanced in technology and philosophy and the arts, strong ideas of duty and responsibility.  Granted, samurai had their own fully-covering, protective kinds of armor, but I definitely think the designs are meant to evoke that idea.  

 

It completely makes sense to me that a people from a tropical area would have clothes that do not cover too much.  People who are naturally very large, and more prone to overheating than a human.  Maybe it became embedded in their culture, that a true warrior could fight with minimal protection.  Remember when Wynne talks about making Sten a wool cape because he must be very cold?  

[Das Tentakel]

Ahahah! Those armors are stuck in the '90 

Know thy pen & paper fantasy art. It's very 4th edition D&D (2007-8), actually.
A lot of it actually sort of feels like more elaborate versions of DA2/DA:I visually. Which sort of makes sense, DA being the illegitimate baby D&D fathered with BioWare.
The 3rd edition vibe was pretty strong in DA:O, but it's time in the Sun has come and gone.



These guys look like samurai?

No. They look like more colourful versions of these guys:
 

 

Season I was filmed in 2010.

 

Remember, artists rarely copy things 1:1; the Qunari seem to be a mix of the Dothraki (the 'tribal' aspects in terms of bare chest, body paint etc.) and more D&D'ish stylistic elements.

We're talking the look here, of course. Not the concept of Qunari as a society or ideology, in that respect they're more of samurai/muslim/fantasy communist mix.

[Herr Uhl]

 

A lot of it actually sort of feels like more elaborate versions of DA2/DA:I visually. Which sort of makes sense, DA being the illegitimate baby D&D fathered with BioWare.

The 3rd edition vibe was pretty strong in DA:O, but it's time in the Sun has come and gone.

 

ME is the illegitimate baby of Star Wars and DA of D&D. I think they got tired of working on established franchises after a while.

[SiN82]

 

I don't see where people are getting "primitive" and "tribal" from those outfits.  Those look like samurai to me.  Strong warrior culture, advanced in technology and philosophy and the arts, strong ideas of duty and responsibility.  Granted, samurai had their own fully-covering, protective kinds of armor, but I definitely think the designs are meant to evoke that idea.  

 

It completely makes sense to me that a people from a tropical area would have clothes that do not cover too much.  People who are naturally very large, and more prone to overheating than a human.  Maybe it became embedded in their culture, that a true warrior could fight with minimal protection.  Remember when Wynne talks about making Sten a wool cape because he must be very cold?  

 

Ok i've just found this badass!

 

 

This is really cool! The style is consistent with the Qunari from DA 2 but il look much better!

 

It's me or He look like a samurai? I always tought Qunari have a lot in common with Samurais

 

As you can see we had the same idea.

 

They have a lot in common with samurais...honor, discipline,ecc..anyway many of us have tried to find a reason behind the armorless qunari.

 

Someone said the reason is they live in a tropical country... but this doesen't make a lot of sense since all the DA games are in Thedas countries, so completly different climate

 

Other noticed the Qunari in Kirkwall are shipwrecked, and on ship no one wear an heavy armor... it make more sense... but we met vastoth mercenaries, and they are half naked too.

 

So a plausibile explaination i've found is they love take risk in battle....they are fearless... they are proud of their scars... Ok, it's just speculation, because no Qunari give us any explanation... but i think it's reasonable

[aphelion4]

I approve of half naked male qunari.

[Lady Nuggins]

These guys look like samurai?

No. They look like more colourful versions of these guys:
 

Season I was filmed in 2010.

 

Remember, artists rarely copy things 1:1; the Qunari seem to be a mix of the Dothraki (the 'tribal' aspects in terms of bare chest, body paint etc.) and more D&D'ish stylistic elements.

We're talking the look here, of course. Not the concept of Qunari as a society or ideology, in that respect they're more of samurai/muslim/fantasy communist mix.

 

That seems way too close in time to assume that they were inspired by the dothraki.  DAII was announced in 2010, and I would assume concept art would have been beginning before that point.  There are similarities, but bare chest and war paint aren't such unique ideas that they couldn't have been conceived of separately.  

 

The thick obi belt with the sash, the intricate knots, the overall silhouette created by the "skirt," the use of silks and ropes.  It's very evocative of traditional Japanese fashion.

 

As you can see we had the same idea.

 

They have a lot in common with samurais...honor, discipline,ecc..anyway many of us have tried to find a reason behind the armorless qunari.

 

Someone said the reason is they live in a tropical country... but this doesen't make a lot of sense since all the DA games are in Thedas countries, so completly different climate

 

Other noticed the Qunari in Kirkwall are shipwrecked, and on ship no one wear an heavy armor... it make more sense... but we met vastoth mercenaries, and they are half naked too.

 

So a plausibile explaination i've found is they love take risk in battle....they are fearless... they are proud of their scars... Ok, it's just speculation, because no Qunari give us any explanation... but i think it's reasonable

 

 

Yes, I saw.  You didn't need the big red letters.   I just wanted to add to that.

 

Well the qunari we see may not live in a tropical country, but their home country is rumored to be very warm.  From Origins:

 

Wynne: Aren't you chilly, Sten?

Sten: "Chilly"? I don't know this word.

Wynne: It's much warmer where you're from, isn't it? Don't you feel cold?

Sten: I suppose.

Wynne: I don't imagine we can find a cloak in your size, can we? Hmmm...

Sten: What?

Wynne: Nothing. Nothing, don't mind me. Now, I wonder where I could get a skein of good wool yarn...

 

So it would make sense that their traditional garments, the ones that they would likely stubbornly continue to use even when it might not be as practical, would be more appropriate for warmer weather. 

[AresKeith]

There is only the Qun.

 

 

There is no Qun only Zuul

[Das Tentakel]

That seems way too close in time to assume that they were inspired by the dothraki. DAII was announced in 2010, and I would assume concept art would have been beginning before that point. There are similarities, but bare chest and war paint aren't such unique ideas that they couldn't have been conceived of separately.

The thick obi belt with the sash, the intricate knots, the overall silhouette created by the "skirt," the use of silks and ropes. It's very evocative of traditional Japanese fashion.

Well, DA2 was a rush job…  

 

Work on GoT started earlier, of course; the pilot was approved in November 2008; 2009 was a busy year as they started pre-production (including the Dothraki language). 

I think the similarity of the unarmoured Qunari to the Dothraki of the TV series is substantial enough; diagonal stripes across the chest, leather pants, flaps, some leather ‘armour’ for the lower chest etc. None of them wear a belt sash that could be considered an Obi belt, by the way.

 

But I guess you’re referring to the DA:I concept art (not the symbol) Sin posted and maybe the Arishok.

 

The pauldrons of the Arishok are ultimately based on late medieval / early modern armour, though Warhammer’s space marines may have been the direct influence (generic fantasy armour would do as well, to be honest). The baldricks, body paint and lower chest armour are reminiscent of both Khal Drogo and more generic ‘tribal barbarian’ looks. The long skirt with front opening and central flap is pretty common within DA and generic videogame fantasy armour as a whole. The Arishok’s kit does not include silk, though conceivably the belt sash could be.
This belt sash, by the way, might be based on the obi belt, but it is just as, or even more likely to be just a variant of the red belt sashes of the Templars. In DA2, Meredith is wearing one with twin strips hanging in front; another famous example of a red belt sash would be AC’s Altair. The Arishok’s belt sash is just not specific enough to call it Japanese (as a matter of fact, DA loves their red belt sashes…the franchise is awash with them, it appears…).
 

The one thing that I think does look specifically reminiscent of samurai armour are the red ropes / cloth strips that hook up the different pieces of armour in the DA:I concept art. Though strictly speaking it’s more generally a feature of East Asian types of lamellar armour (for instance, take a look at the First Emperor’s terracotta warriors). Then again, it’s also used for some ‘western’ armours in DA.



My guess it’s just one small element picked up and thrown into the fantasy blender machine. The one major artistic influence within videogames themselves that isn’t western (or western Eurasian, if we include Middle Eastern stylistic influences) is that of East Asian, primarily Japanese videogames. It would be surprising if some of that doesn’t get into fantasy blender games like DA.

 

As for the Qunari warriors themselves being 'like samurai', well...the way they talk is superficially somewhat similar to how we westerners suppose samurai were. Taciturn, enigmatic, dedicated. I think that's also about it, since Qunari society and ideology (as far as what's canonically known) is radically different.

[Halfdan The Menace]

Well, numbers certainly played an important factor.  They were fighting essentially all of Thedas at once:  Exalted Marches from both the White and Black chantries.
 
In addition, the Qunari faced not just the magisters, but the Chantry let the Circle of Magi off the leash as well.  Magic is one area the Qunari aren't as adept at as the rest of Thedas.  
 
And even then, it's been suggested that the Qunari haven't gone back on the offensive because they don't want to go on the offensive yet.  Perhaps they're waiting for something...

They are waiting for the right moment to strike until the mages/templars are weakened from the ongoing war.

[JoltDealer]

Ok i've just found this badass!

 

 

This is really cool! The style is consistent with the Qunari from DA 2 but il look much better!

 

It's me or He look like a samurai? I always tought Qunari have a lot in common with Samurais

 

I would be very happy if this armor actually turned up in game.  That being said, I'd be fine with the lighter Qunari Armor that we've seen so far.