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[Savyar]

You can play as a mage and even become a  blood mage. My question is why not make a deal with a demon or good fade spirit you become like Flemeth or Anders. I mean Wynne, Anders was a whiny ******. That's beside the point, the point is what if you could become an abomination. What does everyone else think?

[Knight of Dane]

No.

[EmissaryofLies]

I hate mages. I hate abominations. No on both counts. I wish mage Inquisitors were not even an option to be completely honest. 

 

Gameplay wise it would be a complete mess. Who would even work with such a freak? It's one thing to practice blood magic, it's another to appear in a similar vein to the guy who arguably started the mage/templar war in the first place. No one would trust this Inquisitor let alone follow him or her.

 

Not a good first impression on Thedas.  

[EkhidnaDrakaina]

Hrm, unless it was like a frenzy mechanic where you temporarily loose control of your character at very inappropriate times in exchange for firepower and it being extremely crippling....

But that kind of thing doesn't work in a party based game if you think about it. Solo and single class? Sure. Otherwise, It outbalances the Mage to the rogue and warrior.

[thats1evildude]

Flemeth is not an abomination. She is ... something more.

[Althix]

emmm... i would like to have weapons and armor with demon soul or essence trapped within it.

 

buuut being possessed by some creature of the Fade. nah.

[Torayuri]

It's kind of an idea of mine that the Inquisitor is an abomination. The veil/fade tears gave only them singular, special powers, and I've got the feeling that maybe these powers originate from a benevolent spirit from the Fade possessing you in an attempt to save their own world as well (after all, spirits have no real interest in the mortal world and probably don't want the fade tears around). It's just speculation of course, but I really wonder why else the opening of fade tears would give an Inquisitor singular tear-closing powers.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Wynne isn't an abomination. By definition, an abomination is a mage possessed by a demon. She was possessed by a Spirit of Faith. 

[EmissaryofLies]

Flemeth is not an abomination. She is ... something more  worse.

 

Agreed. 

[Maiden Crowe]

I would be open to it, I quite like the idea of power coming at a high cost so why not?

 

I hate mages. I hate abominations. No on both counts. I wish mage Inquisitors were not even an option to be completely honest. 

 

Gameplay wise it would be a complete mess. Who would even work with such a freak? It's one thing to practice blood magic, it's another to appear in a similar vein to the guy who arguably started the mage/templar war in the first place. No one would trust this Inquisitor let alone follow him or her.

 

Not a good first impression on Thedas.  

 

They will follow her because she is the god damn protagonist, Dragon Age characters seem to conveniently forget their racial prejudices when the plot requires it and Eamon still wanted to be BFFs even when you killed his only son so I am sure they can overlook an abomination if the plot calls for it.

[EmissaryofLies]

If that's the case I look forward to the forum fireworks. 

[Mister Gusty]

What would this entail, according to lore abominations are significantly more powerful than a mage, does this cross over into gameplay??, if so how much more powerful are you?? 

 

If it's just a type of specialization no more powerful than any other then I have no problem with it, but if it does make you so much more powerful why would anyone play any other class, 

 

Do warriors/rouges get a red lyrium(only thing I could think of that is an equivalent) specialization to match it??

[Maria Caliban]

I wouldn't mind agreeing to let a demon possess you as a non-standard game over.

[KainD]

I hate mages. I hate abominations. No on both counts. I wish mage Inquisitors were not even an option to be completely honest. 

 

Gameplay wise it would be a complete mess. Who would even work with such a freak? It's one thing to practice blood magic, it's another to appear in a similar vein to the guy who arguably started the mage/templar war in the first place. No one would trust this Inquisitor let alone follow him or her.

 

Not a good first impression on Thedas.  

 

I agree with this. Then we could have a separate campaign that involves playing exclusively a mage, and then we could balance regular combat mechanics and magic mechanics closer to lore, as the 2 things wouldn't have to be balanced toward each other. Magic would also be more powerful but would include all the dangers. 

 

As for OP, I would totally be up for a deal with a fade entity. A mutually beneficial joining. 

[KainD]

Wynne isn't an abomination. By definition, an abomination is a mage possessed by a demon. She was possessed by a Spirit of Faith. 

 

Wynne is listed as a notable abomination in the DA article on abominations. 

[EmissaryofLies]

Wynne is listed as a notable abomination in the DA article on abominations. 

 

She tries to **** block the player. Has a foul spirit floating around in her being. Is old. 

 

Wynne definitely fits. 

 

I can agree. 

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Wynne is listed as a notable abomination in the DA article on abominations. 

Only because people haven't made "Spirit Possession" a separate page. 

[KainD]

Only because people haven't made "Spirit Possession" a separate page. 

 

Because it is no different.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Because it is no different.

It is different. All demons are spirits, but not all spirits are demons. So there is that group of non-demon spirits that if they possess a host don't do abomination things, thus is different. 

[KainD]

It is different. All demons are spirits, but not all spirits are demons. So there is that group of non-demon spirits that if they possess a host don't do abomination things, thus is different. 

 

Every fade entity wants and does different things, they like other sentient life all have their own character. Demon/spirit are just a convenient stereotypes for dealing with fade entities. 

[AresKeith]

Every fade entity wants and does different things, they like other sentient life all have their own character. Demon/spirit are just a convenient stereotypes for dealing with fade entities. 

 

Except Wynne for the most part maintained who she was were others... not so much

 

So yes there is a difference

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Every fade entity wants and does different things, they like other sentient life all have their own character. Demon/spirit are just a convenient stereotypes for dealing with fade entities. 

Spirits are based on positive concepts, while demons are based on negative concepts. They are fundamentally different in every way except living in the Fade. 

[Neon Rising Winter]

Every fade entity wants and does different things, they like other sentient life all have their own character. Demon/spirit are just a convenient stereotypes for dealing with fade entities. 

Well indeed, but to give an analogy, it's like saying there's no difference between a serial killer and a law abiding junior marketing exercutive because they're both human. On one level you are completely correct, but I know who I'd rather be stuck in a lift with.

[KainD]

Except Wynne for the most part maintained who she was were others... not so much

 

So yes there is a difference

 

No that doesn't prove any difference. Also Grace was intact. 

[KainD]

Spirits are based on positive concepts, while demons are based on negative concepts. They are fundamentally different in every way except living in the Fade. 

 

Positive and negative concepts are subjective. Next thing you'll be talking about the magical power of love that can heal the taint away or something, those things belong in fairy tales.