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#326
Lulupab

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Well Friend Anders only loses control very few times and as codex states only when Anders is very angry and fighting Templars Justice takes over and other times Anders have control over spirit within. My point is the spirit only takes control when the host is not in control. Its like someone acting irrationally when they are angry but on a much higher scale.



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The big question about Faith has to do with how it bonded with Wynn, if it did so in the classical sense. For Anders and, implicitly, most abominations, there's no real dividing line between the person and the spirit. For Wynn and Faith, I'm not sure it was ever really a union as such- the spirit really could have acted as an outside force, rather than as a possessor. Maybe. Who knows.

The other part, though, is the question of how would a Faith-abomination actually express itself if it wanted to? Abominations generally fixate on their aspect: rage is angry, Justice channeled Anders rightous anger/personal vengeance, Pride fueled Ulric's ambitions and ego. But what would 'faith' be expressed by- bolserting Wynn's already balanced faith in the virtues of benevolence and the status quo?

We don't really know much about Wynn beforehand to tell if there was ever a personality change. I personally suspect that 'faith' pretty much made Wynn a perma-idealist- that she wouldn't have been able to not have faith if she wanted to. But that's a non-falsifiable speculation.



The actual spirits we have seen are (a) Faith, and (B) Justice. The later of which did seek influence and control over Anders actions, to keep him striving forward to fulfill the aspect. Whether the spirit of Faith had influence over Wynn to make her fullfill that aspect is unclear: Wynn already seems to have been someone with exceptional amounts of faith, and thus not need to be influenced to fulfill the aspect.

We have an extremely limited sampling of spirits for possession, and a rather imbalanced one of demons: the only demonic abominations we've seen, after all, are by necessity the demons that wanted to become abominations. Demons that didn't want to, much like spirits that don't want to, are pretty much absent as a consequence.

I can't recall a significant difference between the Tevinter and Chantry classifications, besides that the Tevinter were more willing to make deals.


Good points. I just think spirits tend to normally support a person not actually possess them. Justice is an abberation as he is no longer even in the fade.

In regards to the Tevinter as opposed to Chantry points of view I was referencing the classification system used by magisters prior to Andraste. Which is a lot the same but it doesn't involve the maker and a religious context to spirits and demons.

We also have writings about spirits in the fade aiding the magisters and keeping the demons away.

In addition there is also the quasi connection that spirit healers form with fade spirits. There is a permanent connection of some kind involved.

#328
Riverdaleswhiteflash

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And we also saw a sloth demon who wasn't terribly interested in possession during the same as well, IIRC.

Take that in the context of there being a Pride Demon staking out the PC. It might be he wanted to, but was too scared to try.



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Take that in the context of there being a Pride Demon staking out the PC. It might be he wanted to, but was too scared to try.

 

Indeed, he likely just played the role assigned to it.

 

Same as the Rage Demon.