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[Wournos]

My dwarven woman has managed to seriously get Leliana interested and ended up with a kiss at the camp a day or two ago. She has now reached 100% affection but not yet reach an official romance. Today I read (DA wiki) that one has to take on Leliana's personal quest at a very low affection rate before a romance is possible. How can my dwarf do that without breaking Leliana's heart, thus losing the possibility of a romance? She's already been cranky about my dwarven woman being a little too friendly with Zevran.

[equesta]

Firstly, what version (and patch) are you running? Apparently in earlier patches you can end up with a very high approval with Leliana by giving her lots of gifts without any prompt for romancing her (she does "initiate" so you can't really miss it) or getting the chance for Leliana's personal quest.



I believe v1.02 of the patch fixes this. At least for the PC though - I'm not 100% sure for on your PS3.

[Wournos]

I play on PS3. I don't know if I have downloaded a patch. I don't remember being asked to do it and I can't find anything related to patches on the console. Not even sure where exactly to look for it.



But is it true that you have to have very low approval to trigger the right conversation material? Because it was never that low. I don't think I let any of my members drop below 45%. And I don't think I ever encountered Leliana speak of spies in Orlais.



Wish I had left one untouched save at the very beginning. Feels wrong to explore the romance with another character.

[Treason1]

Just so you know, the patch for the PC does NOT fix the issue. I ran into that problem during one of my character's romance with Leliana just a couple days ago. Not sure if this will help, on the PC3 version, but do this:



Break up with her. I'm serious. Save before doing so, though. She won't hate your PC for the break, but you will get a hit in approval (-13) or something like that.

After breaking up with her, there should then be some extra dialogue options that now show up, where you can ask about olesian bards or something like that, and you can ask her why she came to Fereldan. She'll be evasive as to the real reason.

Leave camp. Go somewhere. Come back to camp. She should then initiate a conversation with you, about her lying about the real reason she left for Fereldan. She'll talk about her past as a bard. Be nice to her. This opens up the next encounter:

Leave camp and travel near the Brecelian forest. A random encounter with some assassins should happen. You'll find out what to do, here.

After dealing with Marjolain, speak with Leliana back in camp. Ask her if she loved Marjolain. You'll need to pick the option "I hope that someday I'm as special to you, as she was" to restart the romance.

After this, get Leliana's approval back up by making choices she approves of, and you should be good to go.

[DJ0000]

Your approval has to be close to neutral, just a bit over to trigger the quest. When you first get her give her one gift and then try it. It's too late for you to do this so break up with and do just as Treason1 describes.

[Lekwid]

I had this happen in my last game where I wanted the Marjolaine Quest but I was at about 80 approval. So I told her to we needed to end it...heres how the dialogue looked, it was kind of funny.

Me: About us...i think we need to break up

Leliana: What? Why?

Me: It's not you its me

Leliana: (pissed) Don't you dare say that! (doesn't believe the clichés I'm feeding her)

Me: Actually, yes, it's because of you!

Leliana: What?! (equivalent of WTF?! hilarious)

She finishes by saying she's feels she's not needed and alludes to leaving but to my surprise she's still at camp...so I trigger the same conversation again resulting in -30 approval (2x -15 for the convos)

Then the Orlais Spies topic showed up and Marjolaine Quest was initiated.

[Wournos]

Ah cool. Thank you all. I will try this.

[Wournos]

For future notice, I did this and only had to break up with her once. I lost 23 approval in the process. I left camp, went back, and at roughly +75 approval, Leliana brought up spies and my dwarf woman took it from there. My dwarf woman is now over 90 approval again (just from killing Marjolaine) and is on a mission to get that romance.

So again, thank you.

I guess the wiki needs an update.

[Maria13]

I'm playing with the 1.02 patch and this is what happened to me. I was romancing her but didn't seem to be getting very far so then I started "visiting" Zev (I'm rpging a licentious aristo) Lel found out and I was demoted to friend. Then I got her quest, followed the cues as above ("I hope semeday...) and the romance was on track again eventually culminating in that tent scene....

[Dark Secret]

I got her personal quest from her at around 80-90 approval? =s Not sure what patch I'm playing on but I ran through all the dialogue options as I built up, getting the personal quest prompt around 80% - however I didn't get the random encounter 'till much later...

[Lekwid]

You can also harden Leliana after killing Marjolaine. This will result in her objecting less to evil deeds.



Dialogue options can be found by searching 'Leliana's Past' in the wiki. This is especially useful if you can do the Marjolaine Quest early but I never seem to be able to get it early.



How early have some people gotten this quest?

[Wournos]

I did it today, right before doing the Elven Alienage. I would've done it sooner but I wasn't aware of the personal quest and had to replay my game from the earliest, and only, savepoint I had before Redcliffe Castle gathering. But it was worth it. I don't want to persue Leliana with another character. I was so taken by them that it just feels so wrong to have her romance someone else.
...and as I wrote in earlier posts, I had an approval of 77 when I triggered the personal quest after a breakup.

I noticed it's possible to go back to camp and "have sex", but there's no "explicit" scene. Cute though.
...and I find it odd that after their first tent scene, they woke up fully armoured. If that were me I would NEVER put on full armour after having an intimate moment with the love of my life. I thought Leliana had comfy covers, as she mentioned.

[Treason1]

Lekwid wrote...

You can also harden Leliana after killing Marjolaine. This will result in her objecting less to evil deeds.

Dialogue options can be found by searching 'Leliana's Past' in the wiki. This is especially useful if you can do the Marjolaine Quest early but I never seem to be able to get it early.

How early have some people gotten this quest?

I have a game right now, where her personal quest triggered even before I did any of the main quest lines.

Then again, I have both the DLCs, and with the Stone Prisoner, you have a chance of getting +7 approval from Leliana.

A few talks, a gift, and with that approval boost, her quest line triggered for me.

[x-president]

I got Leliana to tell my why she lied, but I can't seem to get the random encounter to intiate.  I'm in Denerim atm.  Is it too late?

Leliana is almost at 100 currently.

[JosieJ]

Treason1 wrote...

Just so you know, the patch for the PC does NOT fix the issue.

I was very pissed to find this out on my elven mage playthrough.  Although I hadn't given her many gifts, I did lots of things she approved of and got her approval way up.  I'd just patched my game so I didn't think it'd be a problem, but I still couldn't trigger her personal quest--and I'm not romancing her with that character, so I can't break up with her to lower her approval, either.  

Somewhat frustrating, but in the end, it only affects my equipment choices: no Marjolaine's Recurve for her--and no Far Song, as I discovered this after I'd saved the blacksmith's daughter and too late to want to go back and redo that quest.

[MaxQuartiroli]

Romancing Leliana is one of the easiest features of this game.. There are only 2 things to do... Play as good, (helping anybody) and talks OFTEN with her... Everytime you increase your approvation of about 15 points go immediately to the camp and talk to her... Romance will grow as far as you can imagine! I completed my romance with her after only 10 hours during my first playthrough giving her only 2 "powerful" gifts and even if I was playing with female character which is more difficult because there are some answers needed if you want her to fall in love with a girl !!

[MaxQuartiroli]

For those who are going to romance her... I give you a little suggestion to make the romance more funny.. If in the dialogue options appear a question like "What will you do when our adventures will be ended?" (I don't know how is the exact question in English because I play in Italian) WAIT to ask this to her... Keep this question in the dialogue's options and ask this to her only AFTER you have sleeped with her and she has declared she loves you.. Then you will have some different and more romantic dialogue choices

Modifié par MaxQuartiroli, 01 février 2010 - 10:58 .

[x-president]

I got the encounter.  Apparently you need Leliana with you.  It happened immidiately once I took her to kill Flemeth.

[MaxQuartiroli]

Sure ! Random encounters involving certain characters obviously happens only if these involved characters are in your paaty at that moment... There are dialogues line... so their presence is required !

[realj42]

Thank the Maker I found this thread! That girl has been driving my female mage crazy for the last week. I mean she is at 100% approval (Adore), we already kissed, but now all she wants to do is tell me all her bard's tales. And when I tell her "Your the best thing that has ever happened to me.." all she is "You are so sweet". Sweet huh! All you can do then is grab a bottle of wine from the camp fridge and drown your frustration talking about the good ol' days with Wynne....



Thanks for the info guys - I'll get one of my earlier saves (pre-kiss best?) and take it from there.

[Wournos]

MaxQuartiroli wrote...

For those who are going to romance her... I give you a little suggestion to make the romance more funny.. If in the dialogue options appear a question like "What will you do when our adventures will be ended?" (I don't know how is the exact question in English because I play in Italian) WAIT to ask this to her... Keep this question in the dialogue's options and ask this to her only AFTER you have sleeped with her and she has declared she loves you.. Then you will have some different and more romantic dialogue choices

Hmm I didn't know this.

realj42 wrote...
Thanks for the info guys - I'll get one of my earlier saves (pre-kiss best?) and take it from there.

I believe the key, no matter what approval rating you have, you need to get her to trust you. She has to feel that she can speak to you about Orlais without feeling judged. That option goes out the window if the approval becomes strong admiration, to the point where she becomes jealous. Thank the maker for breakups and make-up ... romances.
My problem now, re-playing with a clone character, is to NOT rush things. My dwarven girl Beathag is eager for some Leliana romance though.

Modifié par Wournos, 02 février 2010 - 02:34 .

[MaxQuartiroli]

Wournos wrote...

MaxQuartiroli wrote...

For those who are going to romance her... I give you a little suggestion to make the romance more funny.. If in the dialogue options appear a question like "What will you do when our adventures will be ended?" (I don't know how is the exact question in English because I play in Italian) WAIT to ask this to her... Keep this question in the dialogue's options and ask this to her only AFTER you have sleeped with her and she has declared she loves you.. Then you will have some different and more romantic dialogue choices

Hmm I didn't know this.

Yeah... When I saw for the first time that dialogue I had only kissed her at that moment...and I asked her immediately the question, but when the dialogue ended I feel as I was missing something.. So i recharged, did not ask her the question and keeped that dialogue line until the end of the romance.... My feeling was right !!! Anyway, I am not able to say if it's a little bug the fact that this dialogue-option is available before you have completed the romance...

Modifié par MaxQuartiroli, 02 février 2010 - 03:00 .

[Wournos]

MaxQuartiroli wrote...

Wournos wrote...

MaxQuartiroli wrote...

For those who are going to romance her... I give you a little suggestion to make the romance more funny.. If in the dialogue options appear a question like "What will you do when our adventures will be ended?" (I don't know how is the exact question in English because I play in Italian) WAIT to ask this to her... Keep this question in the dialogue's options and ask this to her only AFTER you have sleeped with her and she has declared she loves you.. Then you will have some different and more romantic dialogue choices

Hmm I didn't know this.

Yeah... When I saw for the first time that dialogue I had only kissed her at that moment...and I asked her immediately the question, but when the dialogue ended I feel as I was missing something.. So i recharged, did not ask her the question and keeped that dialogue line until the end of the romance.... My feeling was right !!! Anyway, I am not able to say if it's a little bug the fact that this dialogue-option is available before you have completed the romance...

Did you ask in camp or in Redcliffe Castle right before the Final battle? I don't know if this is related but in my first playthrough I spoke to her after winning the Final battle and asked "And will the heroine get her girl?". Leliana responded something similar to "If there's room for another body" and I replied "Only if it's you".

[MaxQuartiroli]

Wournos wrote...

MaxQuartiroli wrote...

Wournos wrote...

MaxQuartiroli wrote...

For those who are going to romance her... I give you a little suggestion to make the romance more funny.. If in the dialogue options appear a question like "What will you do when our adventures will be ended?" (I don't know how is the exact question in English because I play in Italian) WAIT to ask this to her... Keep this question in the dialogue's options and ask this to her only AFTER you have sleeped with her and she has declared she loves you.. Then you will have some different and more romantic dialogue choices

Hmm I didn't know this.

Yeah... When I saw for the first time that dialogue I had only kissed her at that moment...and I asked her immediately the question, but when the dialogue ended I feel as I was missing something.. So i recharged, did not ask her the question and keeped that dialogue line until the end of the romance.... My feeling was right !!! Anyway, I am not able to say if it's a little bug the fact that this dialogue-option is available before you have completed the romance...

Did you ask in camp or in Redcliffe Castle right before the Final battle? I don't know if this is related but in my first playthrough I spoke to her after winning the Final battle and asked "And will the heroine get her girl?". Leliana responded something similar to "If there's room for another body" and I replied "Only if it's you".

No no... in the camp.. you have to ask her this question after you told her that you hope a day you may become as special to her as Majorlaine was... Do you remember se said you something like "My dear.. I believe this day has already become...... etc.etc." After this you can make her the question.. Do you want to know what are the new option dialogue or you are going to discover this by youself?

Modifié par MaxQuartiroli, 02 février 2010 - 04:14 .

[Wournos]

MaxQuartiroli wrote...
No no... in the camp.. you have to ask her this question after you told her that you hope a day you may become as special to her as Majorlaine was... Do you remember se said you something like "My dear.. I believe this day has already become...... etc.etc." After this you can make her the question.. Do you want to know what are the new option dialogue or you are going to discover this by youself?

I'll find out on my own. But thanks for the info.