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Nevarra and The Free Marches will not be visited in Inquisition.


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#101
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Nice to have the thread here so everybody can know. Thanks, Jeff.

 

I wonder if there will be  an expansion pack?  I understand it's too soon to tell, but just curious.  :blink:

 

Seems too juicy not to take advantage of it, doesn't it? I at least expect DLC in the future, with new places. If they're going to be outside Orlais-Ferelden or not, that's another matter.


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If Nevara is apparently referenced heavily in DAI like he said, Maybe there is a possibility the events of the next dragon age is there.   \

probably something going down there. 



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If Nevara is apparently referenced heavily in DAI like he said, Maybe there is a possibility the events of the next dragon age is there.   \

probably something going down there. 

Thinking as well since the game carries on after the "final battle", Large DLC campaigns might be set in these other regions as well so they will continue to add onto the world in Inquisition for some time to come.

 

I mean if they give us everything at once, they won't have anything else to do xD



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If Nevara is apparently referenced heavily in DAI like he said, Maybe there is a possibility the events of the next dragon age is there. \
probably something going down there.


I think you're right. The developers did say they had a five game plan, and breaking up the locations for future games would allow them to have reactivity to the current locations without the problems of dealing with multiple divergences and outcomes in what happens to these areas.

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I'm actually pretty enraged by all the mistakes the article's been making.

 

Morrigan's returning as a party member - NOPE.

Well be visiting Nevarra and the Free Marches - NOPE

We''ll be visiting each region's capital - I'm not going to believe that either now.

 

What's next? A dev telling us the Emerald Graves don't even exist and OXM making that up?

I mean.... have these journalists been sleeping during their preview session?

 

It's also quite possible that whoever represented Bioware misrepresented the facts when OXM's reporter was there gathering information for the story. It wouldn't be intentional, but one can *never* rule out misinformation being communicated from the source itself.



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I happy anyway. I mean I was exited and had shortness of breath when I saw the OXM thread about Nevarra and Free Marches 
but I am sure Bioware wil have locations based on the narrative being put forward. also Maybe we get to visit them in DLC's to come much much later.
Ferelden itself is not that small and we still have Orlais, the Anderfels and the Dwarven kingdoms. I suspect Kal Sharok or Orzammar, Maybe both !  :D



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Absolutely ridicilous. For the sole reason they kept showing the same map over and over again which feetured Nevarra and Free Marches.  I knew it though. They keep dissapointing me slowly and steadily which is good thing because i wont be hyped a lot and at the same time i wont follow any more "awesome reveals" like that. I suspect the number of cities is not more than 2 too. 

Maybe they hope each game to be in its own country but if the Inquisition is another DA2 , we will never see them. 

EDIT: @Spanish Inq you do understand the part from Ferelden we are going to see are Frostback Mountains alone dont you ? At best we will travel a little south to the Redcliffe. I realise Mark Darrah said easter Ferelden, but cmon he said many stuff about dragon age 2 too.

Anderfels ? Dude you should film your reaction when you see the actual map and put it on youtube....it will go viral....Cant you realise the game is mainly Orlais with just flavour of Dales and Ferelden ?



 



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Well the map is just a loading screen, which shows the countries and surrounding areas. If they cut off the part above Orlais ans Ferelden it would look like a pretty weird and stretched out map. Also, maybe thaf map is foreshadowing DLC areas.

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Sounds like we're pretty much seeing all the important bits of Orlais, which makes me wonder how much of Ferelden we're see. There's screenshots out of somewhere that is very clearly Redcliffe. With Grey Wardens having some sort of issue maybe we'll revisit Amaranthine, it is warden controlled after all.



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Ferelden wont be more than 10% of the world map. Bet you any amount of money.  And this loading screen is not for the stretch part be sure......i dont remember any other game with such ridicilous excuse. Its just for the hype - look all the places you will visit, we are skyrim, we are multi region, biggest area we have ever build, but not the biggest in the game etc 



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Maybe it was a placeholder image.... they never said that map showed the entire world of the game. I mean, if you are blaming developers for not giving you what you saw in a loading screen during a PAX demo a year before the game comes out.... you shouldn't get so worked up about it.

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Ferelden wont be more than 10% of the world map. Bet you any amount of money. And this loading screen is not for the stretch part be sure......i dont remember any other game with such ridicilous excuse. Its just for the hype - look all the places you will visit, we are skyrim, we are multi region, biggest area we have ever build, but not the biggest in the game etc

So it's Bioware's fault that you believed that Nevarra and the FM were in, because of one map shown at PAX, without considering that they always stated, multiple times, that Ferelden and Orlais would be the locations in DAI, and they never said that there'll be more.
When the PAX map loading screen popped up, they didn't say that we'll visit Nevarra of FM or every part of that map. They stated that the game won't be restrained to a single country, which it won't.
I understand the disappointment (I am), but Bioware never said anything about other countries. They were perfectly clear of what we'll visit. The never stated that there'll be more countries to visit.

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I've never understood the "so disappointed we'll not be going there" sentiment.  To me, the quality of a game is not in the variety of places we'll visit, but more so in the quality of the places we visit.  I was concerned that visiting so many places would leave DA:I without an identity.  For example, I very much felt Ferelden in DA:O, and very much a Free Marcher in DA:2.

 

I know people will hold up DA:2 as an example of how confining one place can be, but that was more a function of the re-used environments.  DA:2 was indeed confining, but not because it was limited to Kirkwall.  It was confining because no matter where we went, we were in the same place.  Was ES:5 confining because it was limited to Skyrim?

 

Now, I'm not saying DA:I will be anything like Skyrim.  I'm also not saying that people don't have a right to be disappointed about not visiting X (Tevinter for me)...what I'm saying is that Orlais and a slice of Ferelden could feel mammoth and complex if it's done right.  What if the game includes a deep roads section that's 3 times larger than the deep roads from DA:O?

 

Quantity of destinations doesn't matter....quality of destinations matters.  I want to get to know Orlais.  I want to wallow in the culture, in the society.  I want to meet it's nobility and it's peasants.  I want to learn about it's deep history, and it's perspective on Ferelden.  There's so much potential...I just want Bioware to get it right.

 

And I believe they will.


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#114
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So it's Bioware's fault that you believed that Nevarra and the FM were in, because of one map shown at PAX, without considering that they always stated, multiple times, that Ferelden and Orlais would be the locations in DAI, and they never said that there'll be more.
When the PAX map loading screen popped up, they didn't say that we'll visit Nevarra of FM or every part of that map. They stated that the game won't be restrained to a single country, which it won't.
I understand the disappointment (I am), but Bioware never said anything about other countries. They were perfectly clear of what we'll visit. The never stated that there'll be more countries to visit.

You clearly did not watch the panel where they were like :

"We thought inquisition will be large enough if we feature this (map of Free Marches Appear) but then we asked ourselfs why not do this (map of Orlais, part of Ferelden, Nevarra and Free Marches appear) " So showing this stuff at panels than showing in pax demo is not enough ?

I guarantee you, i am hunder percent on this - you should be thanking the Xbox Magazine......if there was no such article, many people would still log into Origin this fall, or whenever the game is released and expect to visit Nevarra....Because of the false info, they were kind of made to come up and reveal we will not be visiting those places. Thanks OXM, now i beg the playstation magazines, to write there are 10 different cities, so that we get the real number.



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Ferelden wont be more than 10% of the world map. Bet you any amount of money.  And this loading screen is not for the stretch part be sure......i dont remember any other game with such ridicilous excuse. Its just for the hype - look all the places you will visit, we are skyrim, we are multi region, biggest area we have ever build, but not the biggest in the game etc 

Again, Redcliffe is defacto confirmed

 

Link

 

The puts the border of our involvement in Ferelden at least Lake Calenhad. That's more towards Orlais then the capital but it still contains a fair chunk of Ferelden.



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You clearly did not watch the panel where they were like :

"We thought inquisition will be large enough if we feature this (map of Free Marches Appear) but then we asked ourselfs why not do this (map of Orlais, part of Ferelden, Nevarra and Free Marches appear) " So showing this stuff at panels than showing in pax demo is not enough ?

I guarantee you, i am hunder percent on this - you should be thanking the Xbox Magazine......if there was no such article, many people would still log into Origin this fall, or whenever the game is released and expect to visit Nevarra....Because of the false info, they were kind of made to come up and reveal we will not be visiting those places. Thanks OXM, now i beg the playstation magazines, to write there are 10 different cities, so that we get the real number.

 

Link to the panel, please.



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The map I think ties into the Agents mechanic, we know it's some sort of a mechanic judging by the tiny bit we've seen of it in the gameplay footage we saw at, what was it PAX? Last Year. While we may not go outside of Orlais and Ferelden, we will be sending agents to the Free Marches, Nevarra, and maybe even Tevinter, hench the "Heavily referenced." part.



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The map I think ties into the Agents mechanic, we know it's some sort of a mechanic judging by the tiny bit we've seen of it in the gameplay footage we saw at, what was it PAX? Last Year. While we may not go outside of Orlais and Ferelden, we will be sending agents to the Free Marches, Nevarra, and maybe even Tevinter, hench the "Heavily referenced." part.

So my Agents get to go to the countries I want to go but I don't?  :(



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You clearly did not watch the panel where they were like :

"We thought inquisition will be large enough if we feature this (map of Free Marches Appear) but then we asked ourselfs why not do this (map of Orlais, part of Ferelden, Nevarra and Free Marches appear) " So showing this stuff at panels than showing in pax demo is not enough ?

I guarantee you, i am hunder percent on this - you should be thanking the Xbox Magazine......if there was no such article, many people would still log into Origin this fall, or whenever the game is released and expect to visit Nevarra....Because of the false info, they were kind of made to come up and reveal we will not be visiting those places. Thanks OXM, now i beg the playstation magazines, to write there are 10 different cities, so that we get the real number.

 

I understand that you and others are disappointed, but this is really one of those things none of us can do anything about. The issue with being super fans like most of the people on this forum, is that we dissect everything to such a detail that we make assumptions about things that are never actually clearly confirmed. I've seen the panel, and while it could be argued it's vaguely implied we'll get to go every single place on the map, it's not actually stated. (Consider how long ago it was too...)

 

OXM was wrong to publish faulty information, but they didn't do it because they're some kind of evil force of misleadership. Chances are when they were researching and visiting Bioware for the article they made the same assumptions we've made with small amounts of information. So it seems more prudent to put a positive spin on it (Yay! We get to visit the whole of Orlais! And it'll be much more detailed and specialized if we're not all over Thedas) than to carry on throwing accusations Bioware's way while they're busy trying to make us a game.


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So my Agents get to go to the countries I want to go but I don't?  :(

You don't have time, they're probably dealing with relatively minor things while we're stuck dealing with the major stuff. The Inquisitor cannot be everywhere.



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You don't have time, they're probably dealing with relatively minor things while we're stuck dealing with the major stuff. The Inquisitor cannot be everywhere.

Still stinks though. Here they are going to Nevarra and I'm stuck in Orlais. 



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You clearly did not watch the panel where they were like :
"We thought inquisition will be large enough if we feature this (map of Free Marches Appear) but then we asked ourselfs why not do this (map of Orlais, part of Ferelden, Nevarra and Free Marches appear) " So showing this stuff at panels than showing in pax demo is not enough ?
I guarantee you, i am hunder percent on this - you should be thanking the Xbox Magazine......if there was no such article, many people would still log into Origin this fall, or whenever the game is released and expect to visit Nevarra....Because of the false info, they were kind of made to come up and reveal we will not be visiting those places. Thanks OXM, now i beg the playstation magazines, to write there are 10 different cities, so that we get the real number.

No, they didn't say that AT ALL. That panel you're referring to was before DAI Was formally announced. Mike never said the even the world 'Inquisition' in the panel, so I think that you should rewatch it.
Yes, they were thinking about making a larger map, I think. But things change during development. To think that a panel made BEFORE the game was formally announced (if you recall back they They talked about companions customization too, and they weren't sure about it), and to hold that and a loading screen map (where they NEVER stated that we'll visit multiple countries) over their direct words of Ferelden and Orlais being the focus of DAI (and yes, they did specify that), multiple times, is ridicolous.
I shouldn't thank OXM at all. I hoped that the map would be bigger based on the PAX demo, but it was just that. A hope. I wasn't sure about it, as many where. EVERY previews that came up in the last months, except OXM, talked about Ferelden and Orlais. There was nothing sure about it.

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I find it really funny that someone called "Loyal Fan" is acting more like a "Bad Gamer Stereotype" about this whole matter.


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So when they were bragging about that big honking "explore this much of Thedas in DAI!" map, how much of that is still true exactly?



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So when they were bragging about that big honking "explore this much of Thedas in DAI!" map, how much of that is still true exactly?

And they bragging about this...when? Because the only time they even talked about the possibility of visiting Nevarra or the FM was before we knew the game was called Inquisition. During the PAX demo they only said that the game won't be restrained in one coutry and that the game will have big locations.
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