man it doesnt count as a spoiler if the book's a generation old
next you'll be saying that i shouldn't tell you about moneta being [REDACTED] [REDACTED] from [REDACTED], [REDACTED] [DEFINITELY REDACTED]
No capitalization, punctuation, and a good deal of teasing?
Eirene, are you perchance drunk? (Or posting from a phone?)
Well, session number two is complete. And so are the majority of the assignments on the Citadel.
Gloria has continued her bend towards Renegade. I've been surprised to see so many bottom choices taken, but I'm beginning to see a pattern. Gloria Shepard is no-nonsense with a bit of a short fuse. I was seriously starting to be afraid that Tali was going to be relegated to staying on the Citadel from all of the snapping that Gloria was doing at her. I realized as things went along, the adrenalin was causing the shortness.
When the Spectre ceremony was finally held, I had a quick aside with mom. I pointed out how far along her Renegade had come vs her Paragon, and did she want me to pump up her Charm or Intimidate score. She insisted on Charm, but still the red kept on coming.
Anyway, major plot points:
Kaidan is definitely in the "friend zone".
Garrus was applauded for his marksmanship.
Wrex was told off but GOOD for killing Fist.
Tali finally made her case for tagging along.
Kahoku made his request. Gloria was non-committal.
Emily got her story.
Most of the Keepers have been tagged.
Septimus and Xeltan both made up with Sha'ira.
Everybody else will have to wait at least until the next time we're on the Citadel.
Gloria made for the Artemis Tau Cluster, but our first stop will be Sharjilla rather than Therum (it pays to never remember which system Therum is in).
Hmm. Based on what you have seen so far, how do you think Gloria will perceive Liara once she's finally freed? (Mild curiosity, no more. I think I may have a rough idea)
I actually find the fact that your able to share this universe with your mom intriguing. I don't think my mom would share your mother's interest. In fact, she likes to give me crap about it whenever I see her. However, she still introduced the dune universe to me when I was younger, and it helped spark my interest in Science Fiction in general.
I hope you both enjoy the experience. Keep us posted as much as you can.
Consider the reason why there won't be any further sessions for 3 weeks. Mom is having EVERYONE over for Palm Sunday and visiting her brother and sister for Easter. I'm 99% sure that mom will view the Liara possibility as "too lesbian". Only my surprise at the amount of Renegade that has been taken so far has opened my mind to that 1% possibility that she may take Liara as LI.
Huh. That's interesting.
I wonder what the results would be if someone looked at a correlation between age and tendency to pick 'evil' choices? Or video game experience and tendency to pick 'evil' choices?
My dad always picked 'good' choices, but I suspect it might in part be because I also do and I was watching him when he played.
Huh. That's interesting.
I wonder what the results would be if someone looked at a correlation between age and tendency to pick 'evil' choices? Or video game experience and tendency to pick 'evil' choices?
My dad always picked 'good' choices, but I suspect it might in part be because I also do and I was watching him when he played.
Interesting idea. I'm not sure if age or experience has any thing to do with decisions or not. Your dad might be making the choices he makes because he agrees with them, and maybe you picked that up form watching him do other mundane things. 
Or not.
Your dad does "good" NeroonWilliams mom is doing the renegade and I usually go for the middle of the road option unless it's something I feel deserves the renegade choice, like Harkin or Wrex if I take him with me to Fist. A lot of my characters are fairly well balanced with just a slight paragon edge and I've carried this tendency over to ME2 which made it interesting because I seldom got Jack and Miranda or Tali and Legion to work out their issues. I've got a couple of full paragon, but I never made it to full renegade because I tend to try for politeness.
I remember once trying to play as a renegade. Starting on ME2, I got to the scene where Tali wanted Veetor to get medical attention and Miranda wanted to torture him. I've really never been able to play renegade, really.
Consider the reason why there won't be any further sessions for 3 weeks. Mom is having EVERYONE over for Palm Sunday and visiting her brother and sister for Easter. I'm 99% sure that mom will view the Liara possibility as "too lesbian". Only my surprise at the amount of Renegade that has been taken so far has opened my mind to that 1% possibility that she may take Liara as LI.
I'd like to know, because I'm curious, if she mentions it to anyone at the get-to-gather. I'm always talking to a couple of my in-laws or nieces and nephews about different games when we are all together.
Liara is interesting. I adore Kaidan but accidentally had Liara suggest a 3some become I tried to be nice to her. I did eventually do a Liara romance with one of my Female Shepards. I did all of the ME1 and 2 romance options just to see what they are like, (except Kelly- I invited her to dinner so she would feed my fish once i found out this was possible and in my head we just ate popcorn and watched old adventure flicks and talked about guys) but the majority of my Female Shepards were either not involved with anyone, so hooked up in ME2 or picked Kaidan because I just like him.
I hope your mom has fun. It's nice to hear about other "older" women enjoying the game.
I remember once trying to play as a renegade. Starting on ME2, I got to the scene where Tali wanted Veetor to get medical attention and Miranda wanted to torture him. I've really never been able to play renegade, really.
I did manage to get one close to renegade, but it was my one of my few male Shepards. My female Sheprads make decisions based on my ideas where my male characters can make some decisions I wouldn't. But just some. I don't use renegade with any of my crew once I'm past Fist, and all romances are paragon. I also never romance Tali because I tend to see her as a younger sister no matter what.
I remember once trying to play as a renegade. Starting on ME2, I got to the scene where Tali wanted Veetor to get medical attention and Miranda wanted to torture him. I've really never been able to play renegade, really.
Its not bad. Most of the femsheps I play are full renegade and the few times I've played maleshep are paragon. I've actually did a full paragon playthrough that have more dead than some of my renegade playthroughs. I find paragon too goody-two-shoe for me.
I remember once trying to play as a renegade. Starting on ME2, I got to the scene where Tali wanted Veetor to get medical attention and Miranda wanted to torture him. I've really never been able to play renegade, really.
This works both ways, doesn't it? I've never yet had a Shep who didn't accumulate at least some Renegade points.
I usually get a bar or two, but never more than that.
My problem with the Paragon options in this game as that they rarely present Shepard with a dilemma, as Paragon allows Shepard to be both idealistic and not suffer any consequences for his actions, they are frankly just boring. For a morality system I want to have some form of struggle with remaining idealistic, not have it provide an easy button for moving through difficult choices.
I mean you don't get any of these moments in the game.
That's right. There is no dilemma. One path, and only one path. Both idealistic and pragmatic.
A great truth in that.
Also, however 'easy' it is for the player is irrelevant. The player sits on the couch in an air conditioned room, eats chips, and presses buttons. That's what we do. Whatever qualities the protagonist of story has, they don't flow from us.
That's right. There is no dilemma. One path, and only one path. Both idealistic and pragmatic.
A great truth in that.
Also, however 'easy' it is for the player is irrelevant. The player sits on the couch in an air conditioned room, eats chips, and presses buttons. That's what we do. Whatever qualities the protagonist of story has, they don't flow from us.
Without the player Shepard is stuck at the Normandy's cockpit listening to Joker's porn
I'm impressed that your mum can actually work a video game, OP. My dad gave up on them completely after he decided that being shot from behind in Halo was "too unfair." That said, I would not want either of my parents to play too far into Mass Effect. I can just imagine their faces after entering Chora's Den.
"..so this is why you spent all your time in your room alone, son?"
A book is an inert object. It spends ~99% of its existence ignored on a shelf before and after it is read, if it ever is. Be it a novel or a role-playing game whose narrative is guided by outside participants, a story is just as much what the audience gets out of it as it is what the writer puts in.That's right. There is no dilemma. One path, and only one path. Both idealistic and pragmatic.
A great truth in that.
Also, however 'easy' it is for the player is irrelevant. The player sits on the couch in an air conditioned room, eats chips, and presses buttons. That's what we do. Whatever qualities the protagonist of story has, they don't flow from us.
You put it a tad more elegantly than I did Deinon
I really don't see how that's relevant to someone not liking Paragon decisions because they endorse a single path with no dilemma.
Hey, look at that! Meaningful choice!Without the player Shepard is stuck at the Normandy's cockpit listening to Joker's porn
This has been explained to you many times. "Mash Blue to win" requires no thought and very little attention on the part of the audience. It's boring and it cheapens the narrative.I really don't see how that's relevant to someone not liking Paragon decisions because they endorse a single path with no dilemma.
I'm impressed that your mum can actually work a video game, OP. My dad gave up on them completely after he decided that being shot from behind in Halo was "too unfair." That said, I would not want either of my parents to play too far into Mass Effect. I can just imagine their faces after entering Chora's Den.
"..so this is why you spent all your time in your room alone, son?"
My Dad gave up on video games after watching Sonic drown over and over in Chemical Plant. He still says he's too traumatized to continue (jokingly), and just shakes his head and says, "I'm sorry Sonic! I'm sorry!"
My Dad gave up on video games after watching Sonic drown over and over in Chemical Plant. He still says he's too traumatized to continue (jokingly), and just shakes his head and says, "I'm sorry Sonic! I'm sorry!"
Haha, yeah, they take it a bit personally. My mum accidentally shot a kid in House of the Dead 2, and we've never stopped giving her shit for it.
Hey, look at that! Meaningful choice!
Eventually Kaidan and Joker catch on that Shepard is just standing there, staring, not blinking
I liked how if you hesitate too long in DX:HR's CASIE sequences, the person you're talking to calls you out on it.Eventually Kaidan and Joker catch on that Shepard is just standing there, staring, not blinking
I liked how if you hesitate too long in DX:HR's CASIE sequences, the person you're talking to calls you out on it.
"Are we done?"
The Walking Dead game series actually has a timer for dialogue choices and actions, for example there is a situation where two people both need your help, you have to pick one to save in a few seconds or its a game over
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