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[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Amazing she let Petrovsky live.

[Vazgen]

As action-oriented as Omega is, it's still has quite an interesting storyline IMO. Now if only there were no cutscene bugs... They are annoying. Not to the point of me hating the DLC but enough to lower it in the list

[NeroonWilliams]

Amazing she let Petrovsky live.

Gloria didn't let him live.  ARIA did.  With the amount of Renegade responses that were being peppered into the Paragon stream, I was fearing for his life because of the interrupt system.  There must have been juuuuust enough Paragon played to have swayed Aria's attitude.

[SwobyJ]

As action-oriented as Omega is, it's still has quite an interesting storyline IMO. Now if only there were no cutscene bugs... They are annoying. Not to the point of me hating the DLC but enough to lower it in the list

 

Totally agree.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Gloria didn't let him live.  ARIA did.  With the amount of Renegade responses that were being peppered into the Paragon stream, I was fearing for his life because of the interrupt system.  There must have been juuuuust enough Paragon played to have swayed Aria's attitude.

 

Senior Citizen here.... lol. I play as the Renegon. The Nineties Action Hero.

 

Make sure she takes the renegade interrupt with the Rannoch Reaper.

 

[NeroonWilliams]

Well, I got my wish on the next time out.

 

Our first task was finishing going around the Citadel.  I was amused at how many of the little arguments that mom automatically sided on the "Paragon" side of.  We ran into Noles which led to Gloria meeting Balak for the first time.

 

Meetings with all of the crew were interesting.  Liara is "just friends".  So is Kaidan.  Garrus wasn't allowed to get his moment up on the Presidium.  The "young" races didn't get all of the encouragement they could from the last living Enkindler.  And back on the Normandy, Sam enjoyed a shower AND a night of chess.

 

Next it was time to check out a few of those little things around the galaxy.  Our first stop was tracking down a group of former Cerberus scientists.  Mom was neither impressed, nor surprised to find Jacob heading up security for this group.  I WAS surprised to see mom let Dr Archer stay worried about David and then goad him into killing himself.

 

Next up was checking out a monastery for Ardat-Yakshi that had fallen silent.  Mom was suitably creeped out by the atmosphere of the level and then met her first Banshees.  Mom WAS happy to see Samara again and DID manage to catch the Paragon interrupt to keep her alive.

 

Finally being introduced to Banshees meant that I could finally let mom open the message sending Shepard to Dr. Bryson, which she immediately did.  Mom enjoyed the "detective" game, and really got a kick out of the screaming head, but it was time to finish for the night.  Our trip to Mahavid in search of Dr. Garneau will have to wait for a week or two.

[mopotter]

Hmmm a reload though? Should you have offered?

From this 64 year old gamer view point.  Yes..  Most definitely Yes.  It's an option.  One I don't use often, but if it's an option she has the right to know about it.  

[mopotter]

This is great.  <sigh>  I wish this had been around when i could have introduced it to both my mom and grandmother.  My grandmother would probably have been laughing a lot, and my mom, getting into the story since I got my love of reading from her.

 

So glad you are doing this, for her and for us.  

[themikefest]

Senior Citizen here.... lol. I play as the Renegon. The Nineties Action Hero.

 

Make sure she takes the renegade interrupt with the Rannoch Reaper.

 

The paragon version isn't too bad

[TotalWurzel]

It's threads like this that show just how woefully ignorant the mainstream media are of gamers.

[NeroonWilliams]

It's threads like this that show just how woefully ignorant the mainstream media are of gamers.

Not sure I'm understanding your point.

 

No wait.  I DEFINITELY don't understand your point.

[Jaquio]

Not sure I'm understanding your point.

 

No wait.  I DEFINITELY don't understand your point.

 

I think they're saying that due to very stale and clichéd demonization of youth culture, mainstream media consistently represents video gaming culture as mostly children, immature adolescent men, and permanent man children.

 

The argument (and I don't refute it) is that mainstream media consistently underestimates how many women play video games, the average age of video gamers, the societal status of video gamers, etc.  Mainstream media would reject the idea of a senior citizen playing a game like ME, let alone a family playing the game together as a means of bonding.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

The thing is that the average age of gamers is in the 30s now.

 

The mainstream media would reject the idea of a female gamer, let alone a senior citizen playing a game. Yet I did Thane's recruitment mission last night. I'm 62 yr old woman. I threw the merc out the window with the perfectly timed renegade interrupt.

 

We played in the 80s. And in the 90s. Old gamers never die. We just start playing on casual.

[NeroonWilliams]

The saga continues!

 

The next time out, Gloria Shepard went on an expedition to TGES Mineralworks in search of one of Dr. Bryson's reseachers, Dr. Garneau.  After a creepy search of the facility, we found him dead and an additional mystery about this "Leviathan": it seems to be able to control people on a massive scale over long periods of time.

 

I was expecting mom to head right back to Bryson's lab to continue the search, but after consulting the map and seeing how close we were to the Far Rim, we instead went to talk to the Quarians.  And stayed with them the rest of the night.

 

While sympathizing with the Quarians' plight, mom thought it was awful timing of them to begin their invasion now.  She was pleased to see both Tali and Legion again, but she guessed that Legion wasn't long for this world.

 

First up was retrieving Admiral Koris from his downed ship.  Mom had to think for a bit before deciding it would be better to get the Admiral instead of his crew.

 

Next was taking out those Geth fighter squadrons.  Mom remained stone faced in light of the story of the Morning War.  Things were not looking good for the Geth.

 

Finally, it was time to head for the main Geth facility to stop the Reaper signal.  Gloria was NOT OK with Legion retaining Reaper code for himself.  After infiltrating the facility, mom's blood really got pumping when a Reaper came out of the shaft to take us on.  The targeting sequence had her actually shaking.  After taking it down, Gloria pumped the Reaper for ANY sort of explanation, but didn't understand about the cycles.  The Reaper died in typical mom fashion: without using EITHER interrupt.

 

Next came the big choices.  Gloria reluctantly agreed to let Legion begin the upload of Reaper code to the Geth because she trusted LEGION.  Then came the further news of the resumed attack by the Quarians.  I fully explained to mom what her choices were at that point and that it all came down to "did she trust Legion to be right?".  In the end she chose the Renegade option to shout down the Quarians, and Legion said his farewell.  It actually kinda surprised me after twice showing no mercy to the Rachni.  Shows what team loyalty can be worth.

 

The night ended with going around the Normandy and listening to crew reactions.  EDI's was particularly of note tonight.  Then I finally let mom open that email about coming in to the Citadel for repairs and shore leave.  I'm pretty sure next time is going to be the most laughter I hear from mom in the whole saga.

[NeroonWilliams]

I think they're saying that due to very stale and clichéd demonization of youth culture, mainstream media consistently represents video gaming culture as mostly children, immature adolescent men, and permanent man children.

 

The argument (and I don't refute it) is that mainstream media consistently underestimates how many women play video games, the average age of video gamers, the societal status of video gamers, etc.  Mainstream media would reject the idea of a senior citizen playing a game like ME, let alone a family playing the game together as a means of bonding.

Thank you for that explanation.  It was actually why I started this blogthread in the first place.  The original comment was vague enough that I was almost feeling that it was a disparaging remark about the topic.

[TotalWurzel]

Thank you for that explanation.  It was actually why I started this blogthread in the first place.  The original comment was vague enough that I was almost feeling that it was a disparaging remark about the topic.

 

Just had a long drive home, so not had chance to reply.

 

Apologies for the confusion, and sincere apologies for any inadvertent offence, the others had explained things better than I did.  I'm in my 40s, been playing video games since the late 1970s so it's actually really great knowing that I'm something of younsgter round these parts.  Especially here in the UK, the mainstream media is very anti-gamer, every time e-sports is mentioned on BBC there condescension is apparent.

[Pasquale1234]

The thing is that the average age of gamers is in the 30s now.
 
The mainstream media would reject the idea of a female gamer, let alone a senior citizen playing a game. Yet I did Thane's recruitment mission last night. I'm 62 yr old woman. I threw the merc out the window with the perfectly timed renegade interrupt.
 
We played in the 80s. And in the 90s. Old gamers never die. We just start playing on casual.

Would you believe - this 59 yo just finished an ME2 run on insanity.

I don't think I'll ever do it again - lol - I simply don't have the reflexes or skill of folks who grew up with controllers in their pudgy little paws, but I wanted to do it once. Earned a lot of frequent die-er miles on that trip.

That said, I can (sort of) relate to this thread. I remember giving my parents one of the original monochrome GameBoys way back when - they wanted nothing to do with it at first, but within a few months were wailing on Tetris. Gave the folks a Sega Genesis for Christmas one year, and within a few months, Mom was whupping everyone who would come over and play it with her.

[mopotter]

The thing is that the average age of gamers is in the 30s now.

 

The mainstream media would reject the idea of a female gamer, let alone a senior citizen playing a game. Yet I did Thane's recruitment mission last night. I'm 62 yr old woman. I threw the merc out the window with the perfectly timed renegade interrupt.

 

We played in the 80s. And in the 90s. Old gamers never die. We just start playing on casual.

So right (64)     I've told my step-daughter to make sure whatever nursing home I get put in, make sure I can bring whatever system I'm using, along with my  xbox 360 and a computer in each room with internet connection so I can ignore whatever is  going on and play my bioware rpgs which I will still have..    

 

Actually I've always played on casual, except the games that had one option and you couldn't save.  Once spent a whole day, while my husband was fishing, playing through one of those games. dying, restarting, dying restarting, Completing never ever played it again and I can't remember it other than it was some guy kinight climbing a castle wall that never ended. 

[AlanC9]

Next came the big choices.  Gloria reluctantly agreed to let Legion begin the upload of Reaper code to the Geth because she trusted LEGION.  Then came the further news of the resumed attack by the Quarians.  I fully explained to mom what her choices were at that point and that it all came down to "did she trust Legion to be right?".  In the end she chose the Renegade option to shout down the Quarians, and Legion said his farewell.  It actually kinda surprised me after twice showing no mercy to the Rachni.  Shows what team loyalty can be worth.

 

If she hadn't had the Renegade persuade option, you figure she would have let the quarians burn?

[NeroonWilliams]

If she hadn't had the Renegade persuade option, you figure she would have let the quarians burn?

Nope.  If the option for saving both fleets hadn't been there, mom would have sided with the organic Quarians.  As it was, she almost changed her mind and turned on Legion to stop the upload.

[teh DRUMPf!!]

 I envy your experience, OP. I really wish I could get some of my family into the series, or even Dragon Age. I would be awfully curious about what decisions they would make, and to compare and contrast them with my own. Sadly, none of them are into this sort of thing.

 

They would probably also have difficulty keeping all the lore straight and would likely struggle to understand even the basics.

[Quarian Master Race]

Nope.  If the option for saving both fleets hadn't been there, mom would have sided with the organic Quarians.  As it was, she almost changed her mind and turned on Legion to stop the upload.

good woman.

From what I've seen, I think there's something about the older generations that gives them more renegade tendencies in this game. They tend to 1) not be as affected by feels based arguments/appeal to emotion and 2) less tolerant of putting up with bullshit or excuses.

[themikefest]

 

We played in the 80s. And in the 90s. Old gamers never die. We just start playing on casual.

Don't forget the 70's. Pong was the greatest video game ever. I enjoyed playing that game when it became available. 

[BurningBlood]

We played in the 80s. And in the 90s. Old gamers never die. We just start playing on casual.

 

Don't forget the 70's. Pong was the greatest video game ever. I enjoyed playing that game when it became available. 

 

Or the 60's!  Spacewar was rocking realistic physics before that was even a selling point.

 

Not that I was alive at the time to enjoy it.  I do wonder how many of those gamers still game.

[SwobyJ]

good woman.

From what I've seen, I think there's something about the older generations that gives them more renegade tendencies in this game. They tend to 1) not be as affected by feels based arguments/appeal to emotion and 2) less tolerant of putting up with bullshit or excuses.

 

That just means they value their own emotions over those of others.