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[Psychic Psycho]

I know you guys are opinionated. Sorry if this upsets anyone. Asari Justicar used to be one of my favorite classes. I took her to into a gold match for the first time today and she was useless. As you guys know, Pull is your primer for Reave. But she can't pull anything that is shielded or armored. That means no BE's on bosses and half of the mooks too. That's crazy terrible and I don't know why I never noticed it before. Is she a bad class or am I missing something here?

 

EDIT: Wow, this thread really took off...

[SlimJim0725]

Reave, Bubble, Reave.

[Psychic Psycho]

Reave, Bubble, Reave.

Her bubble animation... It's always a great idea to stand up in the middle of combat and wave your arms for a few seconds.

 

I couldn't stay on my feet long enough.

[Evil]

The bubble acts as a biotic detonator at the moment of casting, so you can reave->bubble for a BE.

 

Also, if you took 6b on the bubble, it'll also prime for a level 6 + ? BE, so you can chain reave->bubble->reave as mentioned above.

 

Another thing about the bubble that isn't obvious, it can stagger just about anything at the moment of casting, so it's not as risky to use against bosses as you might expect.

 

You can get staggered out of the casting animation though, so be careful against geth.

 

Also, lift with 4 points in if for the radius evo is a reasonably useful mook killer if combined with an acolyte or talon, as a 4+6 BE will kill almost any mook once their shields are down, and lifts tiny cool-down makes the combo very quick to execute.

[SlimJim0725]

Her bubble animation... It's always a great idea to stand up in the middle of combat and wave your arms for a few seconds.

 

I just couldn't stay on my feet long enough.

 

It can be risky, but once you get the hang of it you will find it much better than Pull -> Reave since you can do it on any enemy. Geth Scanner helps out a lot if you are not great with awareness. Reave, run up and drop the Bubble (Reave Stagger, Biotic Explosion stagger), dodge back a couple times and throw another Reave into the Bubble for a second Biotic Explosion.

[Cyonan]

If you want to play her as a BE spammer then it's better to go Warp Bubble/Reave. Pull is not great on Gold/Platinum since everything with defences is immune to it. Acolyte can help you a bit to be rid of shields/barriers for things that don't have armour, though.

 

Personally I play her as a biotic soldier, using Warp Rounds + Reave for massive damage and a defensive bubble with no Pull at all.

[Psychic Psycho]

The bubble acts as a biotic detonator at the moment of casting, so you can reave->bubble for a BE.

 

Also, if you took 6b on the bubble, it'll also prime for a level 6 =? BE, so you can chain reave->bubble_>reave as mentioned above.

 

Ok, but how do you guys get close enough to get them in the bubble. She's an Adept after all... I can manage it now and then, but if there are more than 2 guys looking in my direction, then I'm on the floor in a half second...

[Zjarcal]

Reave all da things, shoot all the things with warp ammo. Place the bubble at choke points for dat damage debuff.

 

Forget Pull unless you're taking it for the lulz (which I totes do) or if you're using an acolyte (way less efficient than just shooting stuff though).

 

 

She's an Adept after all... 

 

You say that as if she were squishy... 40% damage reduction paired with a cyclonic makes her pretty damn tanky. Even with no cyclonics she still ain't squishy.

[TMB903]

Heavens no. She's a bad mamma jamma. Biotic soldier who is pretty versatile and can be played effectively in different ways.

[TheShadyEngineer]

This thread. Lots of useful info about the AJA and more specifically how her bubble works. Just try and disregard the back and forth b/w the two arguing BSNer on that thread.

 

Like you said pull is fairly useless on gold so you'd be better off to just skip it altogether. You can either go with defensive bubble, defensive reave and warp ammo to turn her into a biotic soldier with lots of DR and nice debuffs or you can go with offensive bubble to make her detonate really fast consecutive BE's.

 

I just recently tried the second version and TBH, I'd go with making her a biotic soldier. To cast that bubble you have to get a little too close for comfort and for me there's not enough reward for the risk. But I encourage you to try both, OP. Different people prefer different things . 

[Moby]

I'm not opinionated at all, in my opinion.

[Psychic Psycho]

Personally I play her as a biotic soldier, using Warp Rounds + Reave for massive damage and a defensive bubble with no Pull at all.

Ok, now we're getting to the heart of it. I feel like A LOT of players do this, but fail to mention it. Understanding things like this is very important to someone like me who is new to the game.

[ClydeInTheShell]

Ok, but how do you guys get close enough to get them in the bubble. She's an Adept after all... I can manage it now and then, but if there are more than 2 guys looking in my direction, then I'm on the floor in a half second...

 

Adrenaline Module III. 

 

Try this build. 

 

You can run this setup a myriad of ways to deal damage and kill things, whether up close or from a distance.

 

Reave, then shoot and watch things melt with Warp Ammo. Or, Reave one or multiple enemies (Reave is AoE) then drop a Biotic Sphere over the group for a BE. Shoot until your cooldown has reset, then Reave whatever's still standing in the sphere for another BE. 

 

The Sphere is basically your mobile kill zone; it primes everything that stands inside of it for BE but also has a debuffing property so enemies inside take more damage. After you detonate them a few times you can finish them off with gun fire pretty easily. 

 

Pull -> Reave for quick BEs on straggling mooks away from groups. Both Pull & Reave are stagger powers vs most humanoid enemies (sans Dragoon & Phantom)

[Cyonan]

Ok, now we're getting to the heart of it. I feel like A LOT of players do this, but fail to mention it. Understanding things like this is very important to someone like me who is new to the game.

 

The one thing worth noting is that this build is semi-weak to shields, because Warp Rounds doesn't offer any damage bonus against it. It's also strong vs barriers since Warp Rounds does 2x damage to them.

 

Of course, with the Justicar Biotic Soldier build you should be bringing a pretty powerful weapon anyway. All you really need cooldown wise is enough to keep Reave up on targets.

[ClydeInTheShell]

It's also been said that the Justicar is better on Platinum than on Gold, and I agree with this. 

[Psychic Psycho]

 

Adrenaline Module III. 

 

Try this build. 

 

OK, this is what gets to me... This is the exact build I'm playing except for the M-7 Lancer, the Acolyte, and all the gear. I've been playing consistently for almost 4 months and still haven't unlocked this stuff.

 

You guys have this tendency to talk about kits like they automatically include weapons and gear. Guess what: they don't. If the weapons and gear are important, then that needs to be a part of the discussion. I see so many people talking about "this build" and "that build" but I'm beginning to suspect that the discussion should really be about the weapons and gear that you have to slap onto the build in order for it to be usable.

[Pearl (rip bioware)]

66653 with an Acolyte. Pull + Reave on one or two mooks, Reave + Bubble + Reave on spawns/bosses. A friend of mine soloed Platinum in 32:xx with this build and strategy.

 

I would use a shotgun on her, but alas my Wraith is only level 5; and as much as I love the Claymore, I can't make it work on her

[me0120]

I'm not opinionated at all, in my opinion.

 

I don't like how you're sassing me!

[TheShadyEngineer]

OK, this is what gets to me... This is the exact build I'm playing except for the M-7 Lancer, the Acolyte, and all the gear. I've been playing consistently for almost 4 months and still haven't unlocked this stuff.

 

You guys have this tendency to talk about kits like they automatically include weapons and gear. Guess what: they don't. If the weapons and gear are important, then that needs to be a part of the discussion. I see so many people talking about "this build" and "that build" but I'm beginning to suspect that the discussion should really be about the weapons and gear that you have to slap onto the build in order for it to be usable.

If you posted your manifest, it'd be easier for people to suggest weapon combos.

[Zjarcal]

OK, this is what gets to me... This is the exact build I'm playing except for the M-7 Lancer, the Acolyte, and all the gear. I've been playing consistently for almost 4 months and still haven't unlocked this stuff.

 

You guys have this tendency to talk about kits like they automatically include weapons and gear. Guess what: they don't. If the weapons and gear are important, then that needs to be a part of the discussion. I see so many people talking about "this build" and "that build" but I'm beginning to suspect that the discussion should really be about the weapons and gear that you have to slap onto the build in order for it to be usable.

 

A lot of stuff is assumed, yes, hard to guess how much a random poster will have unlocked or not.

[Evil]

Ok, but how do you guys get close enough to get them in the bubble. She's an Adept after all... I can manage it now and then, but if there are more than 2 guys looking in my direction, then I'm on the floor in a half second...

Cyclonics to take advantage of all that DR or adrenaline to reduce the damage taken helps.

 

Another useful trick that might help: even if lift can't prime an enemy, it can still stagger it or force it to stop shooting you and dodge.  Either of these can buy you time to kill them or GTFO.

 

It's not as good as throw for CC, but it can be used as a ghetto version of throw in a pinch.

 

The justicar does suffer without a decent gun though, it's part way between an adept and a soldier in that regard.

[SlimJim0725]

Cyclonics to take advantage of all that DR or adrenaline to reduce the damage taken helps.

 

Another useful trick that might help: even if lift can't prime an enemy, it can still stagger it or force it to stop shooting you and dodge.  Either of these can buy you time to kill them or GTFO.

 

It's not as good as throw for CC, but it can be used as a ghetto version of throw in a pinch.

 

The justicar does suffer without a decent gun though, it's part way between an adept and a soldier in that regard.

 

I find Adrenaline to be better than Cyclonic honestly. The quicker you can charge in and drop the Bubble, the less you are getting shot.

[ClydeInTheShell]

OK, this is what gets to me... This is the exact build I'm playing except for the M-7 Lancer, the Acolyte, and all the gear. I've been playing consistently for almost 4 months and still haven't unlocked this stuff.

 

You guys have this tendency to talk about kits like they automatically include weapons and gear. Guess what: they don't. If the weapons and gear are important, then that needs to be a part of the discussion. I see so many people talking about "this build" and "that build" but I'm beginning to suspect that the discussion should really be about the weapons and gear that you have to slap onto the build in order for it to be usable.

 

The build I posted does assume that you're using a Lancer so I apologize for not being more specific. However, the playstyle can accomodate a wide variety of weapons. You can use a Tempest, Locust, Eviscerator, Phaeston, Avenger, etc, in place of the Lancer, or you can play the setup I posted solely with the Acolyte. 

 

You're going to be doing a large part of your damage with Reave and the Biotic Sphere, so while the weapon helps, it's not mandatory to use it exactly as I have it setup. That's just how I do it. The gear that I want to emphasize is Adrenaline Module III, so that you can drop Biotic Spheres and get away from the crowds quickly. 

[Tonymac]

I know you guys are opinionated. Sorry if this upsets anyone. Asari Justicar used to be one of my favorite classes. I took her to into a gold match for the first time today and she was useless. As you guys know, Pull is your primer for Reave. But she can't pull anything that is shielded or armored. That means no BE's on bosses and half of the mooks too. That's crazy terrible and I don't know why I never noticed it before. Is she a bad class or am I missing thing here?

Believe it or not, just Reave and shoot.  Go for bubble for bigger stuffs - The one that Puts a warp on the baddies.

 

Once you get used to playing the Justicar, you will love it.

[Scab]

I don't really share the sentiment that Pull is "useless" on Gold. Put an Acolyte on her and you can deal with anything that isn't armored. Cerberus is particularly weak to this approach. For bosses/Dragoons/Bombers/Pyros I find that stacked Reaves + Acolyte shots w/ Warp ammo do well enough damage to manage.

 

This is what I used to run a lot.

 

I've been toying with an offensive bubble recently and it's been good too, if tricky to deploy well. The Reave + Sphere + Reave double whammy is really the way to go with that. There are many viable ways to spec this char.