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Is Asari Justicar a bad class?


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#76
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For playing a lot of games on platinum pull is really circumstantial...most of the game I am spamming reave and shootng in between and changing the bubble's location. If I play silver I am going 66660 for gigantic biotic booms everywhere....the 30% AR weight reduction in level 6 passive along with the one in 4 would allow you to carry a gun that packs a punch and still spam reave....

 

I am liking the reave stack though with 75% to armor and barriers....I really can't notice much on platinum in terms of health....somthing hits me I am about dead whether my shields are 700 or 1100 it seems to me. I almost feel like fitness is just useless on most kits in platinum. Going from 500-800 or 600-900 or whatever it is seems insignificant but the DR from the justicar is nice...

 

Can't speak to platinum (I've only played two rounds of platinum, both times by accident) but on gold I find area pull is reasonably useful. If you throw area pull and reave on any spawn, something is guaranteed to go boom. (*edit* All the same, I usually skip pull. The biggest problem for me with situational powers is that I forget to use them.) 

 

 

no, it's fact. put them side by side and the Adept is the clear winner.

it's only a "bad" kit because it doesn't measure up to the Adept. However, he does have some "unique" uses just like the Justicar.

So maybe not, it's not a "bad" kit at all because every kit has it's uniqueness, strengths and weaknesses.

 

There's no easy comparison with the Justicar though. You get a kit that can has a unique playstyle, can tank, pull off rapid fire BEs, support, debuff, and do excellent weapon damage. How can that be bad?



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Ari, the Vanguard stacks Charge's Weapon Synergy with Orb debuffs. Adept does not even touch that kind of damage boost because Stasis Expose is buggered. Don't be silly.
Besides. They're both awesome.


shhh Moby.

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I love it when you shush me. <3

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Argent Xero

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I love it when you shush me. <3


lol, I'm not good at trolling apparently. :/

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no, it's fact. put them side by side and the Adept is the clear winner.

it's only a "bad" kit because it doesn't measure up to the Adept. However, he does have some "unique" uses just like the Justicar.

So maybe not, it's not a "bad" kit at all because every kit has it's uniqueness, strengths and weaknesses.

 

YAAAAAAAAWWWWNNN. *crack*. Crap, I dislocated my jaw yawning from reading that absurd facility for the billionth time.



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YAAAAAAAAWWWWNNN. *crack*. Crap, I dislocated my jaw yawning from reading that absurd facility for the billionth time.


So you actually aren't capable of discussing things like a rational adult. Got it.

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omg, that ignore posts thing does help out tremendously! :D
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It's also been said that the Justicar is better on Platinum than on Gold, and I agree with this. 

Relative to other characters, or because of how BEs work?



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Dr. Tim Whatley

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Relative to other characters, or because of how BEs work?


Slower bosses to trap in the bubble.

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This thread... **shakes head**

#86
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I used to run her like that:

Run close to the bad guys, cast bubble, die, use a gel, cast reave.

Rinse and repeat 6 times.

Hide in a corner in your protective bubble and hard cover until the game ends.

 

I might try to cast Reave first now. And thanks for the great flamer thread from the other day, where much was learnt.



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So you actually aren't capable of discussing things like a rational adult. Got it.


Aint no discussion here. You two are just constructing silly strawman arguments. I have presented an argument and no relevant counter-argumentation has been presented.

#88
KalilKareem

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Slower bosses to trap in the bubble.


Also more health on the mobs so you can actually get reave to do a bit of damage for ya. And you might even have time to get a few BEs off :)

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Also more health on the mobs so you can actually get reave to do a bit of damage for ya. And you might even have time to get a few BEs off :)


There are no issues getting BEs off on any other difficulty with her, so I'm afraid I don't know what you mean.
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Aint no discussion here. You two are just constructing silly strawman arguments. I have presented an argument and no relevant counter-argumentation has been presented.

 

I don't know, maybe if you were right then people would reply to you seriously.


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You hurt me OP. :(. Reave alone makes anyone gold viable. And she is a Justicar with Biotic bubble.

With pull maxed..She eats Rippqz for breakfast. And does quite well against collectors (because barriers are so susceptible to Reave) and Cerberus (pull gardian shield. They have significant wave budget cost).

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There are no issues getting BEs off on any other difficulty with her, so I'm afraid I don't know what you mean.


I rarely have time for BE on gold. The mobs die to fast. So I just reave->shoot the next mob instead. Its not that they cant happen. It is just not really worthwhile setting them up. Besides, I dont even want BEs. Better to keep the target primed for warp ammo abuse.

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I seriously hope you're trolling.

I really, really do.
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One of my favorite biotic. I use the bubble full offensive (6), reave (6 area, DR, armor/barrier), pull (4, radius), full passive (duration, power damage, weapon). I like pull even on gold/plat because of those tricky abominations.

 

Offensive bubble is just like the other "risky" powers: you should use it smart.



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I don't know, maybe if you were right then people would reply to you seriously.


I am right. They even admit it (unknowling) when they "play her as a biotic soldier". Well ofc you do. Everyone does. Because her powers are nowhere near enough to sustain her as an adept. And there are tbh many kits that are better weapon platforms than the justicar. Perfectly viable on all difficulties, but nowadays somewhat subpar which is how I define "bad".

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I rarely have time for BE on gold. The mobs die to fast. So I just reave->shoot the next mob instead. Its not that they cant happen. It is just not really worthwhile setting them up. Besides, I dont even want BEs. Better to keep the target primed for warp ammo abuse.


Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

BE's are what HURTS THE MOB

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The best Adept in the game. You can play her like a soldier, where reave is your damage booster (almost like AR, with warp ammo ofc) and wield any weapon : Harrier, Lancer, Indra, Arc Pistol, PPR, Talon, Typhoon, RAIDER. You can play her like a caster and use the Acolyte-pull-Reave-boom combo. Also , trying to get the enemies in the bubble is always fun.

 

 

Edit.

Wait a fvckin'n second,  this is a troll thread...


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I seriously hope you're trolling.I really, really do.


Perhaps you could at some point adress the topic instead of just flinging around emotional arguments? Show me why she eats gi's, destroyers ang gt's for breakfast? What fantastic synergy am I missing in this kit? I am sure the world would like to know, because it is certainly not often I see justicars in lobbies these days. And when I do thery are either weapon platforms or not contributing a whole lot.

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I am right. They even admit it (unknowling) when they "play her as a biotic soldier". Well ofc you do. Everyone does. Because her powers are nowhere near enough to sustain her as an adept. And there are tbh many kits that are better weapon platforms than the justicar. Perfectly viable on all difficulties, but nowadays somewhat subpar which is how I define "bad".

 

Since when did stuff that ain't top tier become bad? That's just ridiculous.


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Perhaps you could at some point adress the topic instead of just flinging around emotional arguments? Show me why she eats gi's, destroyers ang gt's for breakfast? What fantastic synergy am I missing in this kit? I am sure the world would like to know, because it is certainly not often I see justicars in lobbies these days. And when I do thery are either weapon platforms or not contributing a whole lot.

Why are you trying to compare an Adept to kits that couldn't even think about having a biotic power? Nobody here has said that she even comes close to those kits you mentioned, but that's because she isn't supposed to.

Acolyte > Pull > Reave on lone mooks, Reave > Bubble > Reave on spawns and/or bosses.